I recently learned that a friend of mine who is works at University and tries to do her PhD is married to a guy who did not even graduate the primary school. (Wow!) That made me think of if I would ever be able to do sth like that. Not even 6 years of basic education he has. And he comes from very poor and simple family so it wasn't for money or power. She simply loves him.
I mean could happen I would fell in love with someone not knowing what educational background he has. But I would probably "smell" it due to the subjects we talk about, etc. It is a huge difference. And I am not saying of knowledge itself, but way of seeing and interpreting the events and World. Understanding how the things work. And than, my grandparents did not even finish the primary school due to the war. And my grandpa was in a lot of ways a wise guy playing for years the first violin in philharmonic orchestra. Autodidact. So I know that the school is not the most important. Still… hard to imagine.
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
You don't need a diploma to get an education. I've studied some things that would require me first to obtain a degree before even getting to look at my field of interest. Then it's a case of do you 2ant to learn how to learn how to critically think, which is exactly what education does not teach you to do.
Look at Commoncore, or whatever it's called over in the states. That is abject stupidity. Likewise Darwinism and Creationism, the later is just blatant indoctrination.
Education is being deliberately dumbed down to foster a stupid, unquestioning society where an authoritatian elite, coupled with corporations merging with the state, is the literal description of fascism, and we as people are viewed as a totally expendable resource.
If people were educated they would question why the top 1% of society rule over the rest and play us off against each other for the scraps. They use every psycjological trick in the book, and peoples natural want to believe in outside supreme forces, or hidden agent provocateur's when the protagonists of the worlds problems are right their in plain view, and even write books publishing their plans.
It proves people are so easy to manipulate, that they put actual value in things that are totally unimportant, like social media, technological gadgets, sport or pop culture. If people were capable they would demand action from government to reform itself, so work for US and not serve whoever is bribing, blackmailing them or financially greasing the skids.
Will watching football, hockey, or American Idol resolve anything, eh no....and that's why it's produced in the first place. It's to keep people entertained and occupied so they do not question why and how they are being manipulated.
Getting a bit of paper to prove a standard of education may not even lead to a career suitable to that field, but it will get you hammered in debt. A relationship is one of the few things that cannot be taxed, or manipulated, unless be socially inforced political correctness. Clearly if someone cannot recognise when they are being manipulated the authorities will not educate them.
So if you look at the world critically you'll see religion as a control mechanism, that's been used by a few to play geographical regions against each other. Then Nationalism was the next easiest way to get people to turn against each other.
Now finance, and in particular central banks are used to crash and manipulate economies to keep people fighting each other locally and internationally, to make the same few people 3xtremely wealthy while others in parts of the third world are left to starve to death.
If you refuse to keep your money in the bank, refuse to join the military, refuse to buy the crap corporations produce and buy and support people in your locality you will effect change.
Now look at the question of education again, after reading the above. Do you really believe you cannot interact with someone who has not recieved a classical education, or are you limiting Your opportunities and establishing a dfacto brick wall between so called educated people and those who are percieved as lesser humans?
If you do believe it's important, you too have become a victim of opprant social conditioning. Celebrate the differences and learn from each other and you will become a better human being. Most importantly, you do not need a bit of paper to become a decent human being.
Katiko: I recently learned that a friend of mine who is works at University and tries to do her PhD is married to a guy who did not even graduate the primary school. (Wow!) That made me think of if I would ever be able to do sth like that. Not even 6 years of basic education he has. And he comes from very poor and simple family so it wasn't for money or power. She simply loves him.
I mean could happen I would fell in love with someone not knowing what educational background he has. But I would probably "smell" it due to the subjects we talk about, etc. It is a huge difference. And I am not saying of knowledge itself, but way of seeing and interpreting the events and World. Understanding how the things work. And than, my grandparents did not even finish the primary school due to the war. And my grandpa was in a lot of ways a wise guy playing for years the first violin in philharmonic orchestra. Autodidact. So I know that the school is not the most important. Still… hard to imagine.
I had a friend...she with a master dgree/ me with HS/guess what/she slapped me with her diploma
The worlds full of "educated idiots". It does not mean they are intelligent, it just means they have studied that subject. Some are and some with basic education are very intelligent.
and if a cavemen has so much hair that it drives you wild with passion?
Or people that have phd level and didn't go for it? did they make mistake for their love life? I don't think the choices someone made at 18y old shouldn't be the only basis on how you weigh someone.
But dumb people or silly issues can be a turnoff. i don't want to explain that a square root is not taken by a dentist.
Practically any fool can get an education, but you can never learn intelligence and common sense.
Many other people have left the education system early due to undiagnosed dyslexia, and being told they were stupid and slow all during school. They are not lacking in intelligence.
Most entrepreneurial multi-millionaires never went to university, most didn't finish 2nd level, and some not ever primary level. but they were grafters, had good ideas and took risks.
Give me intelligence over formal educstion any day.
mollybaby: Education has nothing to do with intelligence.
Practically any fool can get an education, but you can never learn intelligence and common sense.
Many other people have left the education system early due to undiagnosed dyslexia, and being told they were stupid and slow all during school. They are not lacking in intelligence.
Most entrepreneurial multi-millionaires never went to university, most didn't finish 2nd level, and some not ever primary level. but they were grafters, had good ideas and took risks.
Give me intelligence over formal educstion any day.
syecomanchester, Greater Manchester, England UK131 posts
I really fail to see the difference between school and no school degree no degree unless they were Totaly unschooled or socialised then would tame down for great pet you may not know but I do Train animals and my owl was wild now she is manned is this wrong I think the question is based around future earning and therefore a little shallow
syecomanchester, Greater Manchester, England UK131 posts
PS if we are just talking uneducated a foreign person with little English and no schooling ,could get degree and be a real Dr serving NHS within 5 years what's the problem is this marriage of an arranged nature ? if you love, get them an education
Exact same educational level is not necessary for a life long relationship or marriage but if there is a big difference then this will create problem in one way or another in long run. If your partner is not intellectually awake and aware then there will not be so much things to talk about. Sometimes you can get a feeling that your partner is dumb or something. I think same or near same educational level also plays an important part in marriage or relationship. I am saying all this through my personal experiences.
mollybaby: Education has nothing to do with intelligence.
Practically any fool can get an education, but you can never learn intelligence and common sense.
Many other people have left the education system early due to undiagnosed dyslexia, and being told they were stupid and slow all during school. They are not lacking in intelligence.
Most entrepreneurial multi-millionaires never went to university, most didn't finish 2nd level, and some not ever primary level. but they were grafters, had good ideas and took risks.
Give me intelligence over formal educstion any day.
I had a coworker with a MS and CPA and could not handle simple issues in day to day life, logic.
I think I agree a lot with what you say healer4you. I think that there could be a lot of moments one could feel bored, ashamed or even annoyed with the other person if there is a huge intellectual gap. But other way I don't need the educational level to be equal. But for my own country - I would find a high-school diploma necessary. In other circumstances could be that I wouldn't care. It all depends. But I find it important feeling free to express yourself with someone, and like most of the ways he/she is.
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
I'll give you the realistic guide to the real question at hand, which is entirely evident by the pop up banners advertising dating from the Russian, Chinese and teenagers posing in suggestive manners to attract men to join their websites.
Every girl in the Russian advert would be able to work in any numberof modelling agencies. The Chinese girls are also attractive. The other models are also attractive.
I guarentee 100% that the images of the girls are real, but they are all models and as such will never, ever in this lifetime be in shortage of men wanting their company.
Not one single man will ever ask them their thoughts on Quantum Theory, or K Rhythm mathematics. That's not to say they don't know about anything "difficult" because they are eithrr attractive or female, it's because it's not natural to talk like that unless your in the right environment.
Ugly people tend to m7x together, people of the same levels seem to graduate towards each other......it's natural. I'm plain looking but athletic, i'm bright but don't talk about certain subjects because it limits conversation. If someone was interested in Trans-Humanism, military history, economics, psychology, or animal behaviour or remote viewing i can have an in depth discussion on any of those subjects.
If one of those beautiful Russian Or Chinese girls wants to get in touch because i might have a spark of intelligence great. However if i looked like George Clooney, and lived in Capri i would stand a far better chance of meeting a woman who liked me who appeared like one of those models. Would we be compatible, would we get along well??????
Chances are i will never find out, not because i am dumb, or they are shallow but because they are likely to flock to the type they are attracted to. I like pretty ladies, they don't appear to like me!
Lifes cruel like that, so foes that mean i'm destined to meet a bright witty plain woman who will appreciate me for who i am? Possibly, but it's more likely she will be looking for something else, as relationships are increasingly seen as something where people can tick a few boxes and pick one off a shelf of readily availble people, available on next day delivery.
I'm a person, a chameleon in nature, and fit in my surroundings, a bit like a predator and deal with people on the level they want to interact with me. The more they exhibit, the more i'll react.
Ideally, i will just be me, and someone will like me for being me, not expect me to pander to whims, moods or narsacistic traits, because those people make me cringe. Unfortuately i have not met a funny naturally happy woman who wants to know me on an equal basis.
I have an open mind, and finding someone like that without a conception of what i m7ght be, what i might have done, or mistakes i have made i find a bit frustrating. Start simple, and don't limit or judge orthers as you have no idea what someones capabilites are, or could become.
syeco: what about magnetic theory in relationships or yin yang ?
you are comparing losing weight by wearing magnetic earrings to breathing in and out? or the magnetic soles for your feet to fix your backproblems with finding a balance in lightbulbs in your room?
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If you have an university degree would you marry a person with less then 6years of schooling?(Vote Below)
That made me think of if I would ever be able to do sth like that. Not even 6 years of basic education he has. And he comes from very poor and simple family so it wasn't for money or power. She simply loves him.
I mean could happen I would fell in love with someone not knowing what educational background he has. But I would probably "smell" it due to the subjects we talk about, etc.
It is a huge difference. And I am not saying of knowledge itself, but way of seeing and interpreting the events and World. Understanding how the things work.
And than, my grandparents did not even finish the primary school due to the war. And my grandpa was in a lot of ways a wise guy playing for years the first violin in philharmonic orchestra. Autodidact. So I know that the school is not the most important. Still… hard to imagine.