If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
Apr 22, 2015 11:15 PM CST Do you have a two month supply of food and water on hand?
Kalpatarusomewhere close to, Jakarta Indonesia1,083 Posts
Kalpatarusomewhere close to, Jakarta Indonesia1,083 posts
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
I may not be well prepared for such situation. I never had a two month supply of food and water. I only secure important documents especially my Id-cards (such Citizen Id-card, Office Id-card, and Bank-card) and ofcourse my old cell phones.
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
Nope, don't have that and don't know anyone who does.
LoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France1,691 posts
If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?[/quote
Ken,, sensible question, or i'd rather take it as warning or preventive. Personally, no i don't and i can't have that. For ceratin items , it can be. If any disaster will happen, i hope and i don't think it will happen simultaneously in all partS of the planet, if not it's the end of humanity. Evacuations are just immediate measures. But i think,, i have read somewhere ,, (i'm not over communicating mind you) that a well organized country should set a reserve for it's entire population for a given period, but this could only be applicable to countries who have the possibility to store/stock such quantity. In all big disasters that humanity suffered, i think we experienced an important demonstration of support and solidairity,, respective governments alone could not cope with it alone ,, And to end, SOLIDARITY among men should be maintained.
LoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France1,691 posts
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
Ken,, sensible question, or i'd rather take it as warning or preventive. Personally, no i don't and i can't have that. For ceratin items , it can be. If any disaster will happen, i hope and i don't think it will happen simultaneously in all partS of the planet, if not it's the end of humanity. Evacuations are just immediate measures. But i think,, i have read somewhere ,, (i'm not over communicating mind you) that a well organized country should set a reserve for it's entire population for a given period, but this could only be applicable to countries who have the possibility to store/stock such quantity. In all big disasters that humanity suffered, i think we experienced an important demonstration of support and solidairity,, respective governments alone could not cope with it alone ,, And to end, SOLIDARITY among men should be maintained.
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
Apart from meat , I would have as I purchase in bulk . Mostly would start with two months and reduce to a week or so . Milk is UHT when no ones out hunting . As for meat , only need to flick my fingers , literally , and the dogs will grab something .
LoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France1,691 posts
epirb: Apart from meat , I would have as I purchase in bulk . Mostly would start with two months and reduce to a week or so . Milk is UHT when no ones out hunting . As for meat , only need to flick my fingers , literally , and the dogs will grab something .
epirb,, that's your advantage,, almost in autonomy ,, but like you can be counted easily ,, i will seek refuge near you when it will happen, and keep away your dogs from me,, i eat dog meat ,, ha ha,,
Lolette: epirb,, that's your advantage,, almost in autonomy ,, but like you can be counted easily ,, i will seek refuge near you when it will happen, and keep away your dogs from me,, i eat dog meat ,, ha ha,,
you would turn your nose up at my dogs , they make grey hounds look fattish .
Interesting. In America it is part and parcel of our Federal Emergency Management Agencie's (FEMA) advice for all Americans.
As jokingly suggested by a former FEMA head, 'everyone should be individually prepared for a zombie apocalypse and to hunker down through it.'
Disaster preparation is called Disaster Mitigation, which ranges all the way from stockpiling supplies, a plan for obtaining and cleaning water, extra blankets, fuel for an emergency generator, planning and discussing rendezvous points with family members, identifying the direction of possible threats (tsunamis, nuclear plant disasters, etc.) and pre-planning your best 3 evacuation routes (again thought to rendezvous points for other family members traveling other routes), possible discussion of cooperative plans with trustworthy neighbors, etc.
After the Regional Disasters of Hurricanes Katrina, and Sandy the value of pre-planning and mitigation proved it's worth in gold for some families. No one needed 2 months worth of food, but for that first week as many bridges were closed and nothing came into the damaged stores, knowing your own family had food and other supplies made things a lot easier for some.
One can go high dollar if they wish, pre bagged, precooked individual meals, or one can go low tech, low dollar. A few extra bags of rice and dried beans, maybe some dried fish or meat supplemented by a bottle or three of vitamins with minerals, and an ability to filter and boil water.
It is important to remember that while it is all very nice to imagine that the Government will shelter and provide for me and my children, and while the Government before the disaster hits may actually wish to do so, in reality.. Sometimes the disaster is big enough that your own local Government may need the help of other external Governments just to climb back onto it's feet before even being capable of thinking about anyone else. That can add days or weeks to government response. Again in such times, having predetermined plans and some measure of self sufficiency is nice.
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
One man asked the same question recently. But on top, he added that he also has a gun to protect his supplies of those like me
Well you have to decide in advance how, within what the law and reality allows, you will react when not friendly mobs or thieves come looking for the food you set aside for your children and yourself.
Run away and yield it all to them? Battle their guns with your kitchen knife? Or meet their force with equal or greater force?
Some decide option one is better than violence and maybe the Lord will feed their children anyway. Others believe if they don't own guns, the thieves will respect that and not have any of their own. Some go with option three when it is permissible.
I generally shy away from such a question for security reasons. But the fact is I keep large stocks of dry goods and I have a hand dug well in my front yard. I know the local wild foods that grow and migrate in season. I have been "prepping" since I was literally a child (my dad was very upset we he discovered at age 9 I had buried his guns in the barn...lol). I do not know exactly what for, but it is hard programmed into my makeup and I will not ignore it.
If you wish a what for regarding disaster preparation, look at the Nepal region today.
The only supplies coming in today and probably for the next few days come in by military C-130, thus far feeding the capital will probably be their priority. The roads are simply impassable and the bridges are down. The commercial flights are probably a month from resuming, but even then, the distribution infrastructure has been destroyed.
Yes, in the rural areas some folks will be able to eat what is there. But in the other towns and cities? The food the residents have is all there will be, possibly for weeks to come and the tertiary death toll will possibly be very large a month from now.
Of course it does. Now add a few 1 or 5 pound bags or jars of beans or rice (or both) and maybe a jar or two of honey, some salt, and some canned fish. Maybe also some one a day with minerals and vitamins.
Those simple acquisitions put you light years ahead of millions of other folks today.
Ken_19: If you wish a what for regarding disaster preparation, look at the Nepal region today.
The only supplies coming in today and probably for the next few days come in by military C-130, thus far feeding the capital will probably be their priority. The roads are simply impassable and the bridges are down. The commercial flights are probably a month from resuming, but even then, the distribution infrastructure has been destroyed.
Yes, in the rural areas some folks will be able to eat what is there. But in the other towns and cities? The food the residents have is all there will be, possibly for weeks to come and the tertiary death toll will possibly be very large a month from now.
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
They have been non-stop since the airport was pronounced safe again. Also a half dozen other countries. Means nothing though without any open roads or helicopters to deliver the supplies. A mountain of supplies 3 stories tall and no way to distribute it. It is only today maybe 30 hours after the earthquake the first small helicopter reached the city of Pokhara where the hospital itself allegedly had collapsed. The helicopter stayed an hour then left. No news or casualty figures from that area have been announced. As you can see from the aerial photo at
the town of Gorhka is effectively leveled. With two epicenters to deal with and a lack of roads to get to such places what you had in your possession before the earthquake is probably all you will have for weeks to come.
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
Nope but I am close to the mountains, and I have a plan. (also many years of hunting and trapping under my belt)
Ken_19: If there is a disaster of some kind, meteor strike, major earthquake or tsunami regular shipments to stores may be disrupted, water mains may be broken, etc. The government may promise evacuation, then forget to come. How prepared are you for such times?
With 300 million other people tromping around in the woods shooting deer and rabbits or whatever moves for food, just how many hours do you expect the deer supply to last?
yes at least for one month, canned , dried food , im not being paranoid but i hate the long line on supermarket on the week end. it saves me my time. So i buy in bulk, its cheaper also. The only problem is the expiry date, couple week ago i drank 2 bottles of expired indonesian beer, i found it behind the other bottles
Well rare observation from Nepal is a first disaster can be followed by a second.
Interesting Mother Nature can play the old Cold War tricks.
Back in the Cold War everyone had shelters stocked with two weeks worth of food. Hiroshima and Nagasaki measurements had taught that two weeks after a nuclear blast radiation levels should have fallen enough it should be safe to come out of the hole. So on both sides the fallout shelters were stocked with two or three weeks worth of food and water. Then came the nuclear submarine and by the 1970s the realization of a new tactic.
When the war begins, every other sub should go dark, settle on the bottom and wait 2 or 3 weeks. At that time, launch the missiles. Those hiding in shelters from the first round of blasts, should be out now looking for new food and water. Wham. Both sides planned to do this.
We see in Nepal, Mother Nature knows this trick too. So again I say, plan for months, not days or weeks.
Hermetic1: I generally shy away from such a question for security reasons. But the fact is I keep large stocks of dry goods and I have a hand dug well in my front yard. I know the local wild foods that grow and migrate in season. I have been "prepping" since I was literally a child (my dad was very upset we he discovered at age 9 I had buried his guns in the barn...lol). I do not know exactly what for, but it is hard programmed into my makeup and I will not ignore it.
seems to be a quirk of paranoia ruled people particular to the US
tarris: seems to be a quirk of paranoia ruled people particular to the US
Midst of the Cold War we had a few novels, Alas Babalyon, etc., warning that if your neighbors, or strangers, know you have food, or teenage girls in your shelter, they will come, kill you then take what they want unless you drive them off yourself, because the police, phones, electric (all that) will be dead and no one is coming to help.
The only novel or film about your portion of the planet from the same era was On The Beach, our allies down under dying slowly of rising radiation poisoning their cities. Course Mad Max 20 years later, but very few down there were smart enough to realize it would be just like that.
Ken_19: Midst of the Cold War we had a few novels, Alas Babalyon, etc., warning that if your neighbors, or strangers, know you have food, or teenage girls in your shelter, they will come, kill you then take what they want unless you drive them off yourself, because the police, phones, electric (all that) will be dead and no one is coming to help.
The only novel or film about your portion of the planet from the same era was On The Beach, our allies down under dying slowly of rising radiation poisoning their cities. Course Mad Max 20 years later, but very few down there were smart enough to realize it would be just like that.
I think you're wrong. A lot of us live closer to nature than the average American. Hunting, fishing, hiking and gardening is till a part of our lifestyle. So some complacency exists in terms of believing we'd get by. Climate here is a bit milder too. Yanks seem to live in a paranoid state of coveting their goods against someone taking them. Hence the huge war machine your nation supports.
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