Should EU adopt australian immigration rules? ( Archived) (51)

May 4, 2015 10:54 AM CSTShould EU adopt australian immigration rules?
derda
derdaderdachur, Grisons, Switzerland23 Threads 3 Polls 132 Posts

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I wonder how long we should continue seeing thousands of refugees coming in boats from Africa every day.-
In my opinion the only solution would be to do it like the Australian. So without Visa you have no right to stay. (or something alike if I remember correctly)
What you think is the best solution to this in the longer run?
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May 4, 2015 11:21 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
.....I think the Australia....should ease their laws....and let them all in......after all is said and done....its a big enough country......???????giggle giggle giggle
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May 4, 2015 11:24 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
truheart1941: .....I think the Australia....should ease their laws....and let them all in......after all is said and done....its a big enough country......???????


I always say I wish my grandfather had stolen a loaf of bread, because now I'd be sunning myself in Oz.
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May 4, 2015 11:36 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Lolette
LoletteLoletteLe Mans, Pays de la Loire France15 Threads 1,691 Posts
derda: I wonder how long we should continue seeing thousands of refugees coming in boats from Africa every day.-
In my opinion the only solution would be to do it like the Australian. So without Visa you have no right to stay. (or something alike if I remember correctly)
What you think is the best solution to this in the longer run?



Soon rules would be obsolete whatever/wherever it is, immigrants of all sorts will flock where land can be found ,, solutions, it's the immigrants who have them ,, mumbling
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May 4, 2015 11:39 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
No, we should invade Italy, take over the Country and use it as a refuge base.

The Italians normal run hole
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May 4, 2015 11:41 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Yeh they've probably still got the concentration campsgrin
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May 4, 2015 11:49 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
tomcatwarne: Yeh they've probably still got the concentration camps
and there was me thinking my post was controversial laugh
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May 4, 2015 12:02 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
delsemgecsem
delsemgecsemdelsemgecsemswiqi, Majjistral Malta2 Posts
derda are they coming your home and asking your money? all EU countries half of them they have poor conditions actually so even for example somebody already in Switzerland without proper language ability and connection already impossible to find the job this rule applies all for the other countries so who cares they are in or out...
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May 4, 2015 3:23 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Nidifugous
NidifugousNidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia38 Threads 3 Polls 1,430 Posts
derda: I wonder how long we should continue seeing thousands of refugees coming in boats from Africa every day.-
In my opinion the only solution would be to do it like the Australian. So without Visa you have no right to stay. (or something alike if I remember correctly)
What you think is the best solution to this in the longer run?


I don't like the point system. They can give you zero points after a certain age and that can zero out your chances even if you are a highly qualified doctor. The only "out" of that dilemma they have in OZ is that you can bring money. 15 years ago, the buy-in price was 500K AUD. Maybe it's more now? Don't know. Germany also has a buy-in price, so does the US. Germany is 250K Euro.
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May 4, 2015 4:38 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
jimgi
jimgijimgiroscommon, Roscommon Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 978 Posts
tomcatwarne: I always say I wish my grandfather had stolen a loaf of bread, because now I'd be sunning myself in Oz.


You grandfather wouldn't have to steal anything in this country.All he needed to be was a big strong lad that would be a good worker on some Aus plantation. All that was needed was the accusation.The prison ship was waiting.
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May 4, 2015 4:55 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
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derda: I wonder how long we should continue seeing thousands of refugees coming in boats from Africa every day.-
In my opinion the only solution would be to do it like the Australian. So without Visa you have no right to stay. (or something alike if I remember correctly)
What you think is the best solution to this in the longer run?


Perhaps it's better to say a refugee where to go and how.
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May 4, 2015 7:37 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
derda: I wonder how long we should continue seeing thousands of refugees coming in boats from Africa every day.-
In my opinion the only solution would be to do it like the Australian. So without Visa you have no right to stay. (or something alike if I remember correctly)
What you think is the best solution to this in the longer run?

Why are people afraid of refugees?
Would they threaten your job?
Would you be at some health risks?
Is “your” welfare system at risk?

Can you imagine how people felt in countries when they were massacred and invaded? Can you compare that to your fear to refugees or illegal immigrants?

Europe it is your time to pay back.


Sorry to Switzerland but it can not move.

Solution:

Do a fair trading and let the people on countries were Europeans do profit from business to benefit themselves, creating jobs in those countries so they will have not to "invade" Europe.

Simple!


grin
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May 4, 2015 8:00 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
So many, can enter to your county, and have the amount of money,not a problem,............this will give access.

Security is being withdrawn, big time.

Its been happening for years.

Solution?
None!
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May 5, 2015 1:09 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
derda
derdaderdachur, Grisons Switzerland23 Threads 3 Polls 132 Posts
delsemgecsem: derda are they coming your home and asking your money?


We got lots in Switzerland since it seems a desired travel target. Even in my Fitness studio there are...while I see they have time, I'm surprised as it's not cheap at all.-

I think the current situation is not satisfying for any part. Instead of paying millions for border control, rescue ships etc., we should adopt a OZ law and spend that money in infrastructure of such countries.

In swiss TV there was a interview with some australian guy who said that boat refugees driven by tug gangs has dropped to zero since.

Such law would only destroy the business model of tug gangs and leave money for real help.
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May 7, 2015 6:51 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
derda: I wonder how long we should continue seeing thousands of refugees coming in boats from Africa every day.-
In my opinion the only solution would be to do it like the Australian. So without Visa you have no right to stay. (or something alike if I remember correctly)
What you think is the best solution to this in the longer run?



so, you think what we do is good...?

It may look like it to you, but the reality is, we don't really even let boat people into the country anymore... we keep them on islands off shore mainly, and they stay in detention for ages.. some opt to return voluntarily to wherever they hailed from.

Is this how you think people should treat people..

sigh

In previous years, we did have a huge influx of boat people, and they came and kept coming. and in all of this coming, tragedy happened, as those boats were not seaworthy, and many many died..

So, now our PM has organised to tow the boats back..
and the boats do not come anymore..

coupled with the fact that arrivals go to PNG and other places, but not Aussie mainland...

I think the word has gotten out to not come here anymore...
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May 7, 2015 6:58 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
truheart1941: .....I think the Australia....should ease their laws....and let them all in......after all is said and done....its a big enough country......???????



Um... Pete... you know that Aus is arid mostly... Just because you moan about your rain, we just about have a party when our middle gets a little... and where I live, it is a poor rainfall, and some years the drought goes on for 8 yrs...

not sustainable.
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May 7, 2015 2:33 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Condor009
Condor009Condor009Victoria, British Columbia Canada200 Posts
NATO ships should do their job of protecting Europe from any invasion by sea, armed or hands out for aid; sink all the ships or how about letting them all in until our countries resemble theirs and all Europeans can migrate to their countries and make them all livable, prosperous and peaceful…That will then cause them to move back into their countries, take over the homes, business’s etc. until they ruin them all and start sailing for Europe once again…a never ending cycle until those boats are finally sunk with all aboard once and for all…why prolong and continue this idiotic game...
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May 7, 2015 3:25 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Merriweather: Um... Pete... you know that Aus is arid mostly... Just because you moan about your rain, we just about have a party when our middle gets a little... and where I live, it is a poor rainfall, and some years the drought goes on for 8 yrs...

not sustainable.
hi merry .i was joking....as much as i feel sorry for them.......every country has a saturation point.....as of late , jobs are not easy to come by....this country is taxed upto the eyeballs.....in gods name, how can we support thousands of these people.....who go straight onto benifits......and where does the money come from......by taxing us even more.....if your goverment..made it a rule....for you to give up your home..to house thos people....and just left you the shed at the bottom of your garden.......to live in...how would you feel.....(eg) oh great .i have this .and they have nothing ....its not our fault thos people have to leave their country.....so why should i have to suffer.what little i do have , i worked damm hard for.....not handed to me on a plate........jmo.
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May 8, 2015 1:34 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
Len05
Len05Len05Antwerp, Antwerpen Belgium33 Threads 11 Polls 972 Posts
i like the aussie system of return-to-sender.
All boats with passengers should give an advance notice to the European port they want to land in.
Failure to do so means imprisonment of the captain and taking of the boat for welfare in other countries.
The passengers should be dropped off/returned in the departure port.

Asylum seekers should give a warning prior to entering the country.
If the seeker didn't try to contact the country he is heading for by explaining his route then he failed the visa test.
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May 8, 2015 2:38 AM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
What can you give to that county
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May 10, 2015 1:18 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tarris
tarristarrisnew plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand4 Threads 395 Posts
Looking at the numbers queuing up on the African side of the Mediterranean I'd think it the wise thing to do.
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May 10, 2015 1:20 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
tarris: Looking at the numbers queuing up on the African side of the Mediterranean I'd think it the wise thing to do.


Even Kiwis don't get automatic entry now, they're on to yougrin grin grin
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May 10, 2015 1:20 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
tarris: Looking at the numbers queuing up on the African side of the Mediterranean I'd think it the wise thing to do.


Even Kiwis don't get automatic entry now, they're on to yougrin grin grin
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May 10, 2015 1:35 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tarris
tarristarrisnew plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand4 Threads 395 Posts
tomcatwarne: Even Kiwis don't get automatic entry now, they're on to you
your statement is out of context with the thread.
But while we're on subject; kiwis going to Australia ups the IQ of both countries
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May 10, 2015 2:00 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
almera03
almera03almera03portsmouth, Hampshire, England UK11 Threads 3,913 Posts
tarris: your statement is out of context with the thread.
But while we're on subject; kiwis going to Australia ups the IQ of both countries
I agree, it ups it to that of a sheep grin
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May 10, 2015 2:15 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tarris
tarristarrisnew plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand4 Threads 395 Posts
almera03: I agree, it ups it to that of a sheep
rooting a sheep never gave anyone AIDS! :-)
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May 10, 2015 2:27 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
abcWOMAN
abcWOMANabcWOMANLuleå, Norrbotten Sweden20 Threads 2 Polls 1,583 Posts
Adopting or not, I Think Europé need to find a brilliant solution how to stop the people smugglers!!


People smugglers are using Facebook to lure migrants into 'Italy trips'!




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May 10, 2015 2:34 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tarris
tarristarrisnew plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand4 Threads 395 Posts
abcWOMAN: Adopting or not, I Think Europé need to find a brilliant solution how to stop the people smugglers!!People smugglers are using Facebook to lure migrants into 'Italy trips'!

I think Europe needs to send all back where they originate. A zero tolerance policy would send the message
These people contribute little besides disease and crime to the countries they enter illegally.
They laugh at the western liberal attitude!
Really, what do they contribute?
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May 10, 2015 2:41 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
loulou77
loulou77loulou77Vancouver, British Columbia Canada1 Threads 1,555 Posts
tarris: I think Europe needs to send all back where they originate. A zero tolerance policy would send the message
These people contribute little besides disease and crime to the countries they enter illegally.
They laugh at the western liberal attitude!
Really, what do they contribute?


Really!!...where are you getting your information from? Why not treat the refugees humanely...let the claimant hearing sort it out...you need to look at this from a different perspective...what if you were seeking shelter?...
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May 10, 2015 2:42 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
tarris: I think Europe needs to send all back where they originate. A zero tolerance policy would send the message
These people contribute little besides disease and crime to the countries they enter illegally.
They laugh at the western liberal attitude!
Really, what do they contribute?
you're to kind laugh
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May 10, 2015 2:45 PM CST Should EU adopt australian immigration rules?
tarris
tarristarrisnew plymouth, Taranaki New Zealand4 Threads 395 Posts
epirb: you're to kind
but a realist epirb.
What do African refugees contribute to our way of life?
Somalis and the like here contribute little but crime.
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