Should Oscar Pistorius Be Released Now? (43)
Hi Cat,i hope the state succeeds with its appeal and he gets another fifteen years... Reeva Steenkamp is now DEAD and her families lives can never be the same again. What an absolute kick in the teeth for her memory and her family if he is released in August. If you or i did what he did i doubt we would get the same priveleged treatment. He will always have to live with himself and his conscience but surely taking someone elses life must merit more that ten months in prison.I.M.O...
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Hi Twazzle
House arrest will be a walk in the park for him in the plush Waterkloof home of his uncle. But it is not just in his case. Human life is not worth much in SA. You get more for abusing an animal.
House arrest will be a walk in the park for him in the plush Waterkloof home of his uncle. But it is not just in his case. Human life is not worth much in SA. You get more for abusing an animal.
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I wonder what benefit there is in a prison sentence.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
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Hi Len
You know, I want to agree with you, Except for the tattoo for then we're back at the fleur de lis. Well, maybe at a less conspicuous place. Mind you, the tax sorty sounds good for the rich but most our criminals are otherwise unemployed.
You know, I want to agree with you, Except for the tattoo for then we're back at the fleur de lis. Well, maybe at a less conspicuous place. Mind you, the tax sorty sounds good for the rich but most our criminals are otherwise unemployed.
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A friend of mine got put inside...for 6 months...first offence...for drinking 3 normal size..whiskys...instead of 2....drink/driving...and this guy gets 10 months for killing someone.......(ps)...my mate was breath tested..on his own drive way.....after driving just 1 mile on a deserted road.
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Hi true.
I get your drift. Btw, this was a very controversial verdict. I think his goose will be cooked after the appeal.
I get your drift. Btw, this was a very controversial verdict. I think his goose will be cooked after the appeal.
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Catfoot: Hi true.
I get your drift. Btw, this was a very controversial verdict. I think his goose will be cooked after the appeal.
I get your drift. Btw, this was a very controversial verdict. I think his goose will be cooked after the appeal.
Isn't this sub- judice?
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BTW
In this country the state the state does not often appeal against a verdict. In fact, it is the first that I'm aware of.
In this country the state the state does not often appeal against a verdict. In fact, it is the first that I'm aware of.
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Hi Tomcat,
Well, the newspaper reported on it and nothing happened to them.
Well, the newspaper reported on it and nothing happened to them.
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Catfoot: Hi Twazzle
House arrest will be a walk in the park for him in the plush Waterkloof home of his uncle. But it is not just in his case. Human life is not worth much in SA. You get more for abusing an animal.
House arrest will be a walk in the park for him in the plush Waterkloof home of his uncle. But it is not just in his case. Human life is not worth much in SA. You get more for abusing an animal.
Yet again it's a case of 'money talks'
Was thinking the other day about all the publicity surrounding transgender Caitlyn (Bruce) Jenner...
Yet we never heard what happened about the driving incident he was involved with a little while back when he ran into a vehicle resulting in the death of the occupant
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They say justice is blind - sometimes it really is.
Hope the appeal to convict him of murder goes through.
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seems a bit early alright. i worry though when people say, let criminals stew in jail. everything should be done to help criminals rehabilitate while in jail as i feel if that process does not happen, there may be a high chance of them committing further crimes on release maybe even worse crimes.
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thelad2007: seems a bit early alright. i worry though when people say, let criminals stew in jail. everything should be done to help criminals rehabilitate while in jail as i feel if that process does not happen, there may be a high chance of them committing further crimes on release maybe even worse crimes.
And one might wonder about revenge:justice ration of people don't take responsibility for their actions.
Although, the ethics of rehabilitation for those many, many people who are wrongfully convicted might be a little interesting to navigate.
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Jac.
What are you talking about????
What are you talking about????
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allthegoodnamest: Jac.
What are you talking about????
What are you talking about????
Ratio, not ration.
The 'revenge to justice ratio'.
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And if, not of.
Holy crap.
Holy crap.
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jac_the_gripper: And one might wonder about revenge to justice ratio if people don't take responsibility for their actions.
Although, the ethics of rehabilitation for those many, many people who are wrongfully convicted might be a little interesting to navigate.
Although, the ethics of rehabilitation for those many, many people who are wrongfully convicted might be a little interesting to navigate.
*slinks away in dyslexic disgrace*
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serene56: Yet again it's a case of 'money talks'
Yep, it talks. Pity mine only says 'good bye'.
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KNenagh: They say justice is blind - sometimes it really is.
Hmm, it boggles my mind.
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thelad2007: ... there may be a high chance of them committing further crimes on release maybe even worse crimes.
That is exactly what has been happening here. Jail seems to be the apprentice school for criminals.
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jac_the_gripper: And one might wonder about revenge:justice ration of people don't take responsibility for their actions.
Ok, I'm all for turning criminals into responsible law-abiding citizens but where do you start in a country where 45 murders are committed every day?
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Catfoot: Ok, I'm all for turning criminals into responsible law-abiding citizens but where do you start in a country where 45 murders are committed every day?
I once heard Clive Stafford Smith arguing that there was a greater chance of successfully appealing a death penalty the earlier in the legal process that action is taken.
Ergo, if action is taken before the crime has even taken place, the greater the chance of not getting to the point of execution.
So, to answer your question, in a country where 45 murders are committed every day, I guess your best bet is to start in schools as part of an education curriculum.
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Len05: I wonder what benefit there is in a prison sentence.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
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I think they should wait to see how the appeal goes.
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Len05: I wonder what benefit there is in a prison sentence.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
It's the system inside the jails that fail to offer any kind if good rehabilitation programmes for prisoners and there are no programmes to support prisoners who do seem genuinely rehabilitated to adjust to life on the outside and ex cons find it difficult to gain employment and so they resort to what they know best ,
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
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peachmelba: It's the system inside the jails that fail to offer any kind if good rehabilitation programmes for prisoners and there are no programmes to support prisoners who do seem genuinely rehabilitated to adjust to life on the outside and ex cons find it difficult to gain employment and so they resort to what they know best ,
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
Sorry my iPad acting up.
Reafend again,
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peachmelba: It's the system inside the jails that fail to offer any kind if good rehabilitation programmes for prisoners and there are no programmes to support prisoners who do seem genuinely rehabilitated to adjust to life on the outside and ex cons find it difficult to gain employment and so they resort to what they know best ,
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
Pistorious has his own resources to pay for the special help he needs transitioning from a life of fame to one of notoriety. I don't think he'd repeat offend. This was a crime of passion(of sorts)from a prestigious man drunk on his own sense of power.
The problem with the prisons(at least here)is they either let people out too soon or they're full of people who should have been released years ago(often due to legal duplication and overlap). And that's not the prisons, it's the courts.
The problem with prisons are the drugs. They're teeming with drugs. And they say there's a "war on drugs" but to these people I say they have a surprisingly French attitude towards warfare. I don't see any actual fighting.
Anyway, strict rules and punishments for drug smuggling and possession with correct sentencing from the courts would be infinitely superior to the spend a pound/save a penny pet reclamation projects of social workers.
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Len05: I wonder what benefit there is in a prison sentence.
You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
I understand what you are saying. Here is what I believe should happen: Permanently disable his ability to accumulate money and assets. In other words, garnishe everything to Reeva's family. Force him to a realization of what life is like for many people who have NOT committed crimes--I don't mean make him starve, but make him work bloody hard for the privilege of having a simple flat and necessities. I think that is optimally fair. Cut this posh lifestyle to the quick.You can punish people better than to lock them up.
Especially in a dubious case like this.
Come on society give him a good punishment.
Give him a tattoo on the forehead like 'i shot the gun that killed my girlfriend'
make him take bloodtests for amfetemines,
give him therapy for anger and to process this.
Impose a 10percent income tax to benefit a fund against victims.
But nobody wins with jail time.
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rohaan: I understand what you are saying. Here is what I believe should happen: Permanently disable his ability to accumulate money and assets. In other words, garnishe everything to Reeva's family. Force him to a realization of what life is like for many people who have NOT committed crimes--I don't mean make him starve, but make him work bloody hard for the privilege of having a simple flat and necessities. I think that is optimally fair. Cut this posh lifestyle to the quick.
I think all reeva s family really want is for him to tell the truth .
They say the truth will set you free,,
Power money fame means nothing compared to a peaceful mind.
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peachmelba: It's the system inside the jails that fail to offer any kind if good rehabilitation programmes for prisoners and there are no programmes to support prisoners who do seem genuinely rehabilitated to adjust to life on the outside and ex cons find it difficult to gain employment and so they resort to what they know best ,
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
Can't generalise all murderers ,,some may appear rehabilitated to be released to read end again,
The picture isn't always black and white,
Oscar pistorious if released could very easily murder again.
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Should Oscar Pistorius Be Released Now?(Vote Below)
Some people say, why release him now? Why not wait to see which way the appeal goes. What do you think?