I've always been a bit possessive when I care about someone. Apologizing now to anyone who felt I was jealous, and I laughed at them in disbelief. I didn't think I was, but it isn't comfortable or funny when it comes back the other way.
Where does possessiveness cross the line? I'm suddenly much more interested in the subject than I ever was before!
Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland2,339 posts
Elegsabiff: I've always been a bit possessive when I care about someone. Apologizing now to anyone who felt I was jealous, and I laughed at them in disbelief. I didn't think I was, but it isn't comfortable or funny when it comes back the other way.
Where does possessiveness cross the line? I'm suddenly much more interested in the subject than I ever was before!
When it's a constant interference in a relationship
Brannigan70: When it's a constant interference in a relationship
Well, yeah. Constantly having to explain yourself, dread saying the wrong thing by accident, or even glancing at the good-looking guy in the corner because the Edinburgh Festival is on and he looks like an actor? (You probably don't do a lot of that last ...)
rohaan: In short, people need to grow up. Jealousy is B.S.
Yes!
I always believed that if the relationship is solid, jealousy is stupid. If there's real cause for jealousy, walk away. Run away! (That's why I never considered myself jealous, I was never stressing about the relationship itself - or I was gone!)
Elegsabiff: Well, yeah. Constantly having to explain yourself, dread saying the wrong thing by accident, or even glancing at the good-looking guy in the corner because the Edinburgh Festival is on and he looks like an actor? (You probably don't do a lot of that last ...)
When is the Edinburgh Festival? Which corner will he be on?
I always believed that if the relationship is solid, jealousy is stupid. If there's real cause for jealousy, walk away. Run away! (That's why I never considered myself jealous, I was never stressing about the relationship itself - or I was gone!)
I think we can all have a pang of 'jealousy' from time to time, but it's how we deal with it that's important.
I think can be about feeling insecure, fear and distrust, or maybe a bit of greed for that person.
Personally, I'd rather take a look at myself and what my problem is, than stop any partner from interacting, or being kind/flirty/sociable with others. I like to see a partner interact positively with others, even if I get a little pang of wishing it was me getting all their attention.
At the end of the day, if someone's gonna leave you, they're gonna leave you. If they're not gonna leave you, they're not gonna leave you. You can't control that, but you can certainly chuck a bloody great spanner in the works of a relationship with mistrust, demands, arguments and trying to control your partner's interactions with others.
Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland2,339 posts
Elegsabiff: Well, yeah. Constantly having to explain yourself, dread saying the wrong thing by accident, or even glancing at the good-looking guy in the corner because the Edinburgh Festival is on and he looks like an actor? (You probably don't do a lot of that last ...)
Nope not the last , but I have the hots for Ashley Judd to name one of a few
Nearly all of August - Scotland's hottest and, sometimes, driest month. It is an experience, and everyone is either an actor, a comedian, in a show, or dressing to look as though they are
jac_the_gripper: I think we can all have a pang of 'jealousy' from time to time, but it's how we deal with it that's important.
I think can be about feeling insecure, fear and distrust, or maybe a bit of greed for that person.
Personally, I'd rather take a look at myself and what my problem is, than stop any partner from interacting, or being kind/flirty/sociable with others. I like to see a partner interact positively with others, even if I get a little pang of wishing it was me getting all their attention.
At the end of the day, if someone's gonna leave you, they're gonna leave you. If they're not gonna leave you, they're not gonna leave you. You can't control that, but you can certainly chuck a bloody great spanner in the works of a relationship with mistrust, demands, arguments and trying to control your partner's interactions with others.
Ain't that the truth? No normal relationship is exclusive from day one. You spend time together because you want to, and you spend more and more time together if you want to, but you don't drop the rest of your life instantly, that would be weird.
Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland2,339 posts
jac_the_gripper: I think we can all have a pang of 'jealousy' from time to time, but it's how we deal with it that's important.
I think can be about feeling insecure, fear and distrust, or maybe a bit of greed for that person.
Personally, I'd rather take a look at myself and what my problem is, than stop any partner from interacting, or being kind/flirty/sociable with others. I like to see a partner interact positively with others, even if I get a little pang of wishing it was me getting all their attention.
At the end of the day, if someone's gonna leave you, they're gonna leave you. If they're not gonna leave you, they're not gonna leave you. You can't control that, but you can certainly chuck a bloody great spanner in the works of a relationship with mistrust, demands, arguments and trying to control your partner's interactions with others.
Elegsabiff: Well, yeah. Constantly having to explain yourself, dread saying the wrong thing by accident, or even glancing at the good-looking guy in the corner because the Edinburgh Festival is on and he looks like an actor? (You probably don't do a lot of that last ...)
Sounds like obsessive, controlling behaviour to me
Elegsabiff: Ain't that the truth? No normal relationship is exclusive from day one. You spend time together because you want to, and you spend more and more time together if you want to, but you don't drop the rest of your life instantly, that would be weird.
Would you expect to drop the rest of your life in time?
Or would you expect your partner to?
Does exclusivity mean you and your partner have to become insular?
serene56: Sounds like obsessive, controlling behaviour to me
Yup, to me too. I probably let it get too far, tbh, because I was a bit fascinated to see what it was like to be on the receiving end. I truly don't think I was ever like this, but a previous fella said he felt he had to be careful how he worded things. Eep. I feel terrible.
Mind you, previous fella did used to say things like he'd got a passionate message from a woman on the website who wanted to meet him. I do feel a flicker of interest is in order then. Bite me!
StedanLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK1,780 posts
Elegsabiff: No relationship can exist in a glass bubble, sealing out the world, can you IMAGINE how awful that would be? yikes!
Having lived through the personal experience I can assure you it is not a comfortable way in which to have a relationship.
Especially when it is one sided they could look at their beloved stars on stage at different shows I would drive them there then read a book but if I dared to look upwards or glance sideways it became a perpetual battle and it is very hard for the one who is not jealous to pacify the other.
Stedan: Having lived through the personal experience I can assure you it is not a comfortable way in which to have a relationship.
Especially when it is one sided they could look at their beloved stars on stage at different shows I would drive them there then read a book but if I dared to look upwards or glance sideways it became a perpetual battle and it is very hard for the one who is not jealous to pacify the other.
Wow. Impossible, once it has reached that stage, I would think.
I do know that when my chosen one got defensive, dismissive, or annoyed, I went, because I was no longer comfortable with the relationship or the way it made me feel.
I also know that there were ways of handling me that worked instantly. Not reassurance, just a wake-up call. Common sense, logic, that sort of stuff. So I've tried that. NOT working.
Going, going, gone. But I do appreciate the feedback, I was confused by the levels involved. Tricky one to judge.
StedanLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK1,780 posts
Elegsabiff: I do know that when my chosen one got defensive, dismissive, or annoyed, I went, because I was no longer comfortable with the relationship or the way it made me feel.
I also know that there were ways of handling me that worked instantly. Not reassurance, just a wake-up call. Common sense, logic, that sort of stuff. So I've tried that. NOT working.
Going, going, gone. But I do appreciate the feedback, I was confused by the levels involved. Tricky one to judge.
Being able to show someone you care about without having or giving a controlling effect on the other is a fine balancing act but if both parties are comfortable with the give and take as well as the banter then it should never become a problem. It only becomes a problem if one becomes obsessed with their own inadequacies.
Stedan: Being able to show someone you care about without having or giving a controlling effect on the other is a fine balancing act but if both parties are comfortable with the give and take as well as the banter then it should never become a problem. It only becomes a problem if one becomes obsessed with their own inadequacies.
At that point, jealousy is probably the least of the problems - although the most visible symptom.
The whole little adventure did at least get me looking at myself. I'll know next time what it feels like, be more sensitive to what I saw as harmless.
I'll still be possessive, I can't change my nature. But banter - good word - can be mistaken. And can cross the comfort line ...
StedanLiverpool, Merseyside, England UK1,780 posts
Defining comfort lines or setting boundaries are usually the way forward when starting a new relationship and not let them build up naturally as this tends to make the other uncomfortable.
Being totally honest and upfront with a new partner should be the best way, if one can talk through any little niggles they may feel intrudes upon themselves should be brought out into the open the more it lurks in the darkness the bigger it grows.
Stedan: Defining comfort lines or setting boundaries are usually the way forward when starting a new relationship and not let them build up naturally as this tends to make the other uncomfortable.
Being totally honest and upfront with a new partner should be the best way, if one can talk through any little niggles they may feel intrudes upon themselves should be brought out into the open the more it lurks in the darkness the bigger it grows.
Very true. Talking is pretty much the key to healthy relationships anyway. Anything that festers grows out of perspective ...
This topic gets handled here much like the topic of liars.
Most people will just provide the P.C. "all jealousy is bad, any sign of jealousy leave....blah blah blah...." It's another one of the "right" dating quiz answers that any sensible 15 year can go deeper than.
Most people giving that answer just want to distance themselves from being labelled, think they're putting some type of warning out into the world that's going to ward off all those evil jealous people, or want to stomp their way through life like emotional bulls in a china shop unfettered by the physics of relationships blaming the dishes for breaking as they hit the floor.
In reality, it's a judgement call.
Appropriate jealously lies somewhere between getting mad your partner smiled at the waitstaff, and not appreciating your partner sleeping naked with their "friend" Alex every other Thursday.
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