Who Makes a better President for the United States (117)

Smooth418: Presidents

TheRedSquirrel87: Socialism? Where? I see no cooperative ownership of the means of production. I'm not even quite sure where Bernie stands on nationalisation.

As far as I'm he wants to increase maternalism/welfare which formerly was a social safety net for big capitalism as much as anyone else. Not only in the direct sense by bailing out the banks, but it is what prevented the poor from hanging the rich in a society of widespread and increasing inequality. That's what makes me laugh about the stereotypical American right and it's complete absence of a plan for the poor. It's almost as if they've forgotten that welfarism was a measure designed to prevent socialism.

TheRedSquirrel87: http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2015/09/28/donald-trump-on-obamacare-on-60-minutes-everybodys-got-to-be-covered-and-the-governments-gonna-pay-for-it/



I can see why both men are popular. They're eating up the "have not" vote whilst the rest of politics argues between the sub-elite and the elite in a war between the haves and the have yachts.

WhatUwish4: Yes, Purr, really. You don't seem to understand so I'll try again. THERE CAN ONLE BE ONE NOMINEE (and it's likely going to be Hillary). At that point, Sanders is GONE, and so are all these poll predictions you are copying and pasting. Now, should he happen to win the nomination, you still are not taking into account how many Hillary voters, how many registered democrats who vote republican, and how many independents will vote for Trump - so again, you poll is worthless.

In fact, other polling suggest that Trump is already winning in these non-polled areas: According to new data by Civis Analytics, those who identify as Republicans but are actually registered as Democrats support Trump at a HIGHER rate than registered Republicans, and they are also more likely to turn out to vote.

purr4mance: oh, but i do understand and the polls i listed are not worthless as they speak for themselves.

Registered Democrats make up just 8 percent of self-identified Republicans.

the other side of the equation that you so conveniently forgot to mention is all the registered republicans that are one of Mr. Trump's weakest groups. Another turnout challenge for Mr. Trump is that he commands the support of many people who are unlikely to vote. Civis found him winning 40 percent of the vote among those it gave less than a 20 percent chance of participating in the general election — let alone in the primary. He held 29 percent among those who had greater than an 80 percent chance of voting in the November election.

Mr. Trump’s campaign will need to mobilize these less-likely voters to maximize his strength. But the challenge shouldn’t be overstated, either. Registered Democrats make up just 8 percent of self-identified Republicans in the states with party registration, according to the Civis data.The problem for Trump is that his campaign may not have the turnout operation necessary to mobilize all of his supporters.

Worse, some states don't allow voters registered with the other party to participate in partisan primaries. This group of states includes some favorable to Trump, like Florida, Pennsylvania and New York.