The only people voting for Trump is angry poor white males...Trump is all about illusion...read any of his "books"...he claims to be the author...that is a stretch...
Must be a hell of a lot of angry white men around as he's running neck and neck with Clinton with her angry white woman , as for his books , if godamn stupid people think they can get rich by reading some idiots book then let them buy it .
loulou77: It is bad when Trump did not stand up against the hate group...and years ago purposely denied African Americans from renting apartments in Trump buildings...I cannot imagine defending Trump...
Calling women names...shows how idiotic he is...50% of the vote...he does not think...but you can thank his female campaign manager for getting him to clean up his act...or his daughter...
what about his wife , she looks to me not a person to cross . The four percent of American voters who change their vote now and again chose the right man last time , they will pick the right man this time .
epirb: what about his wife , she looks to me not a person to cross . The four percent of American voters who change their vote now and again chose the right man last time , they will pick the right man this time .
We will find out soon...and the right "man" for the job could be female...welcome to reality...
epirb: I was not judging the debate on fact but how it unfolded , he was defensive and reacting to Clinton , that's a loss in a pure debate . Her policy's are simple , follow on from Obama and expand the worse bits . Trump on the other had is playing debater , he is not and it does not fit with the "Chairman of the Board " that he is and the US needs now .
And just the same, Clinton was reacting and being defensive with Trump when turning the table back on her. That's a long-standing political game in hopes to win voters. They all do it.
And then we have the political party activists and PP extremists (yes, you all know who you are in either party) spewing off only the mainstream media spinners and, disregarding any of the issues the opposing party candidates effectively address just to make them look bad (or worse,) speaks volumes on their own credibility. To these people, it's all about the party they support and nothing to do with the candidate best suited for the job.
So alongside not having the best candidates in the running for this coming election, we're faced with having what we have and it really is looking more and more like a circus while the political party activists/extremists are having their field day with mimicking the media.
A very wise woman had recently said to me that people (voters) need to do their homework when choosing the best person for the job as POTUS. And you, Epirb, have been doing your homework and disregarding much of the mainstream media. Too bad you can't vote in US elections.
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
Gee i thought REaganomics was something Reagan believed in , not politics (gasp). Now Trump is trying to sell it on steroids to those poor former middle class republicans who are down and out! Poor devils. They think the mexican bean pickers have taken all their good jobs.
If they only knew the truth, America really would be great again.
When you get your opponent to brag about not paying taxes and continually lie about what he has said and tweeted, even though there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you know you've had a good day.
His ego is cashing cheques his intellect can't cash and I sincerely hope the majority of people see that.
secretagent09: Ronald Reagan was one month shy of 70 years old when he became president and it lasted for 8 years. He had been a movie star for many years.
So the fact that Trumpy was a tv reality celebrity doesn't mean anything. While he was firing people on tv Hillary was actually working in a real job.
Nothing silly about what you said Monte. Don't mind Victor Meldrew I think he quite fancies you
The man is so underqualified to be POTUS its mind boggling how he has got this far.
Taliban leaders followed the U.S. presidential debate closely but heard nothing on Afghanistan, a spokesman said on Wednesday, adding that they were not impressed by Republican candidate Donald Trump, whom they considered "non-serious".
The leaders watched Monday's televised debate from a secret location in Afghanistan, but neither Trump nor Democratic Party candidate Hillary Clinton talked about their intentions for the country, the spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, said by telephone.
"The main thing that we would like the next U.S. president to do is to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors," he said.
"Why are they hated worldwide? It's because of their aggressive policies. They invade other people's countries and kill innocent human beings for their vested interests."
The election winner will have to decide future policy for what has been America's longest war, started after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 triggered a U.S.-led campaign that toppled the Taliban government in Kabul.
President Barack Obama this year shelved plans to halve the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan and instead has kept 8,400 troops there until the end of his presidency, leaving further decisions to his successor.
Zabihullah also had harsh words for Trump, a political newcomer who has attacked what he calls the failed policies of the Washington political classes.
Taliban leaders considered Trump a "non-serious" candidate who said "anything that comes to his tongue," the spokesman said.
"There is a choice for the upcoming president, whether he or she would like to suffer human and financial losses to continue their invasion of Afghanistan or they want to let the people of Afghanistan decide their affairs," Zabihullah said.
"If the new president doesn't change policy, the Taliban will continue their armed struggle until they are expelled from Afghanistan."
(Reporting by Jibran Ahmad; Writing by James Mackenzie; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)
bohemianjack: Taliban leaders followed the U.S. presidential debate closely but heard nothing on Afghanistan, a spokesman said on Wednesday, adding that they were not impressed by Republican candidate Donald Trump, whom they considered "non-serious".
The leaders watched Monday's televised debate from a secret location in Afghanistan, but neither Trump nor Democratic Party candidate Hillary Clinton talked about their intentions for the country, the spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid, said by telephone.
"The main thing that we would like the next U.S. president to do is to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors," he said.
"Why are they hated worldwide? It's because of their aggressive policies. They invade other people's countries and kill innocent human beings for their vested interests."
The election winner will have to decide future policy for what has been America's longest war, started after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 triggered a U.S.-led campaign that toppled the Taliban government in Kabul.
President Barack Obama this year shelved plans to halve the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan and instead has kept 8,400 troops there until the end of his presidency, leaving further decisions to his successor.
Zabihullah also had harsh words for Trump, a political newcomer who has attacked what he calls the failed policies of the Washington political classes.
Taliban leaders considered Trump a "non-serious" candidate who said "anything that comes to his tongue," the spokesman said.
"There is a choice for the upcoming president, whether he or she would like to suffer human and financial losses to continue their invasion of Afghanistan or they want to let the people of Afghanistan decide their affairs," Zabihullah said.
"If the new president doesn't change policy, the Taliban will continue their armed struggle until they are expelled from Afghanistan."
(Reporting by Jibran Ahmad; Writing by James Mackenzie; Editing by Clarence Fernandez)
I agree that the US must stay out of other countries affairs...wars are profitable but only to a certain few...which creates anger and eventually terror attacks...but the US is not the only country that is invading or helping shape the foreign political landscape and reaping the benefits from it...jmo...
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Fact-Checking the First Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton Debate
Iraq War Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton: “Well, I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Republican nominee Donald Trump: “Wrong.” Clinton: “That is absolutely—” Trump: “Wrong.” Clinton: “Proved over and over again.” Trump: “Wrong.”
Fact check: Trump has made a central theme of his campaign that he opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq while Clinton supported it. But when asked whether he supported going to war in Iraq in a 2002 appearance on Howard Stern’s radio show, Trump said, “Yeah, I guess so.”...
Jobs Trump: “Under my plan, I'll be reducing taxes tremendously, from 35 percent to 15 percent for companies, small and big businesses. That's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan.” Fact check: Trump is echoing promises made on Sept. 15 to create 25 million jobs in a decade—that would be more than three times as many as created since 2006.
Trade With Mexico Trump: “When we sell into Mexico, there's a tax. When they sell—an automatic 16 percent approximately—when they sell into us, there's no tax. It's a defective agreement. It's been defective for a long time, many years. But the politicians haven't done anything about it.”
Fact check: Trump suggests that Mexico slaps a high tax on U.S. imports, but a study from the Peterson Institute in 2014 talks about how Mexico lowered its taxes more than the U.S., via NAFTA, to practically zero, so the U.S. effectively gained more via the negotiation.
NAFTA Trump: “You go to New England, Ohio, Pennsylvania, you go anywhere you want, Secretary Clinton, and you will see devastation where manufacturing is down 30, 40, sometimes 50 percent. NAFTA is the worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere but certainly ever signed in this country.” Fact check: NAFTA had a modest effect on manufacturing jobs. An Economic Policy Institute analysis says manufacturing jobs dropped in the 1990s from 17.9 million to 17.6 million.
National Debt Clinton: She said her plan “will not add a penny to the debt and your plans would add $5 trillion to the debt.” Fact check: The cost of Clinton’s tax plan may add to the national debt. Her tax and spending plans would increase federal tax revenue by about $1.5 trillion over 10 years on net, while they'd increase spending by about $1.65 trillion, according to the non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
DNC Hack Clinton: “But Putin is playing a really tough, long game here. And one of the things he's done is to let loose cyber attackers to hack into government files, to hack into personal files, hack into the Democratic National Committee. ..
Fact check: U.S. officials and a Clinton spokesman earlier this month said experts have concluded Russia was behind the hack. In an interview with Bloomberg earlier this month, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied that Russia was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee. At the same time, he said the hack was a public service.
Climate Change Clinton: “Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. I think it's real.” Trump: “I did not. I do not say that.” Fact check: Trump has a history of questioning climate change. After Clinton accused Trump of denying climate change, he dismissed the suggestion, saying it wasn't true. Yet long before he entered the presidential race, in 2012, Trump tweeted this:
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive."
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
lifeisadream: Fact-Checking the First Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton Debate
Iraq War Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton: “Well, I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Republican nominee Donald Trump: “Wrong.” Clinton: “That is absolutely—” Trump: “Wrong.” Clinton: “Proved over and over again.” Trump: “Wrong.”
Fact check: Trump has made a central theme of his campaign that he opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq while Clinton supported it. But when asked whether he supported going to war in Iraq in a 2002 appearance on Howard Stern’s radio show, Trump said, “Yeah, I guess so.”...
Jobs Trump: “Under my plan, I'll be reducing taxes tremendously, from 35 percent to 15 percent for companies, small and big businesses. That's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan.” Fact check: Trump is echoing promises made on Sept. 15 to create 25 million jobs in a decade—that would be more than three times as many as created since 2006.
Trade With Mexico Trump: “When we sell into Mexico, there's a tax. When they sell—an automatic 16 percent approximately—when they sell into us, there's no tax. It's a defective agreement. It's been defective for a long time, many years. But the politicians haven't done anything about it.”
Fact check: Trump suggests that Mexico slaps a high tax on U.S. imports, but a study from the Peterson Institute in 2014 talks about how Mexico lowered its taxes more than the U.S., via NAFTA, to practically zero, so the U.S. effectively gained more via the negotiation.
NAFTA Trump: “You go to New England, Ohio, Pennsylvania, you go anywhere you want, Secretary Clinton, and you will see devastation where manufacturing is down 30, 40, sometimes 50 percent. NAFTA is the worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere but certainly ever signed in this country.” Fact check: NAFTA had a modest effect on manufacturing jobs. An Economic Policy Institute analysis says manufacturing jobs dropped in the 1990s from 17.9 million to 17.6 million.
National Debt Clinton: She said her plan “will not add a penny to the debt and your plans would add $5 trillion to the debt.” Fact check: The cost of Clinton’s tax plan may add to the national debt. Her tax and spending plans would increase federal tax revenue by about $1.5 trillion over 10 years on net, while they'd increase spending by about $1.65 trillion, according to the non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
DNC Hack Clinton: “But Putin is playing a really tough, long game here. And one of the things he's done is to let loose cyber attackers to hack into government files, to hack into personal files, hack into the Democratic National Committee. ..
Fact check: U.S. officials and a Clinton spokesman earlier this month said experts have concluded Russia was behind the hack. In an interview with Bloomberg earlier this month, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied that Russia was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee. At the same time, he said the hack was a public service.
Climate Change Clinton: “Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. I think it's real.” Trump: “I did not. I do not say that.” Fact check: Trump has a history of questioning climate change. After Clinton accused Trump of denying climate change, he dismissed the suggestion, saying it wasn't true. Yet long before he entered the presidential race, in 2012, Trump tweeted this:
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive." Houston we got two problems!
I could run for president.....after 9 months of reading this...on here. i,m ready for the job....and my vice president will be Chuck Norris.......if..you dont like it...i,ll send him along ,to deal with you....
truheart1941: I could run for president.....after 9 months of reading this...on here. i,m ready for the job....and my vice president will be Chuck Norris.......if..you dont like it...i,ll send him along ,to deal with you....
lifeisadream: Fact-Checking the First Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton Debate
Iraq War Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton: “Well, I hope the fact checkers are turning up the volume and really working hard. Donald supported the invasion of Iraq.” Republican nominee Donald Trump: “Wrong.” Clinton: “That is absolutely—” Trump: “Wrong.” Clinton: “Proved over and over again.” Trump: “Wrong.”
Fact check: Trump has made a central theme of his campaign that he opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq while Clinton supported it. But when asked whether he supported going to war in Iraq in a 2002 appearance on Howard Stern’s radio show, Trump said, “Yeah, I guess so.”...
Jobs Trump: “Under my plan, I'll be reducing taxes tremendously, from 35 percent to 15 percent for companies, small and big businesses. That's going to be a job creator like we haven't seen since Ronald Reagan.” Fact check: Trump is echoing promises made on Sept. 15 to create 25 million jobs in a decade—that would be more than three times as many as created since 2006.
Trade With Mexico Trump: “When we sell into Mexico, there's a tax. When they sell—an automatic 16 percent approximately—when they sell into us, there's no tax. It's a defective agreement. It's been defective for a long time, many years. But the politicians haven't done anything about it.”
Fact check: Trump suggests that Mexico slaps a high tax on U.S. imports, but a study from the Peterson Institute in 2014 talks about how Mexico lowered its taxes more than the U.S., via NAFTA, to practically zero, so the U.S. effectively gained more via the negotiation.
NAFTA Trump: “You go to New England, Ohio, Pennsylvania, you go anywhere you want, Secretary Clinton, and you will see devastation where manufacturing is down 30, 40, sometimes 50 percent. NAFTA is the worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere but certainly ever signed in this country.” Fact check: NAFTA had a modest effect on manufacturing jobs. An Economic Policy Institute analysis says manufacturing jobs dropped in the 1990s from 17.9 million to 17.6 million.
National Debt Clinton: She said her plan “will not add a penny to the debt and your plans would add $5 trillion to the debt.” Fact check: The cost of Clinton’s tax plan may add to the national debt. Her tax and spending plans would increase federal tax revenue by about $1.5 trillion over 10 years on net, while they'd increase spending by about $1.65 trillion, according to the non-partisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
DNC Hack Clinton: “But Putin is playing a really tough, long game here. And one of the things he's done is to let loose cyber attackers to hack into government files, to hack into personal files, hack into the Democratic National Committee. ..
Fact check: U.S. officials and a Clinton spokesman earlier this month said experts have concluded Russia was behind the hack. In an interview with Bloomberg earlier this month, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied that Russia was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee. At the same time, he said the hack was a public service.
Climate Change Clinton: “Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese. I think it's real.” Trump: “I did not. I do not say that.” Fact check: Trump has a history of questioning climate change. After Clinton accused Trump of denying climate change, he dismissed the suggestion, saying it wasn't true. Yet long before he entered the presidential race, in 2012, Trump tweeted this:
"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive." Houston we got two problems!
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It is clear that Trump did not support the war In Iraq , Clinton is a liar . Nothing new in that as even she knows she is seen as a liar by Americans .
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