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derda: We should build schools etc. in their countries and have them all returned.
Ah yes, first end those silly wars immediately.
And no, I don't expect the EU to handle this in the next 10 years or so...
Ah yes, first end those silly wars immediately.
And no, I don't expect the EU to handle this in the next 10 years or so...
I think you are too optimistic, Europe could not handle the ones that arrived earlier (mainly due to poltcal correctness), we are definitely not going to handle the new ones - there already is no need for integration for them, as we are adpating to their ways. EEurope is on its way to becoming a ME region
Capricorn143: Exactly, the US is not comparable to Europe at all - the national states should stay, no supra-natonal monster (EU) and its babies (the Parlament and even more the Council and the rest of the lot) are needed - more and more they behave as if they were the Politburo of the Soviet Union! Those people are not held responsible for what they do or don't do by their voters, they live in a bubble and have no idea what the reality is like!
The bankers and the coorporations should be stopped and everything would be fine.
The bankers and the coorporations should be stopped and everything would be fine.
Hello Capricorn, I must admit in a United Europe, but not the way it is created. Indeed it is an artificial monster led by unwordly minds who's obsessiion is to become an economic power whatever it costs. I read a article in which was stated that todays democracies of the world are the best political framework for capitalism. Capitalism is based on humans greed. An instinct that is of no need anymore in this times was written in it. And I agree. We should evolve to more political systems were people have more influence in politics. I can't remember one at the moment. What I know is that economical it is possible. In a northern region of Spain a part of the county has much coöperatives and the impact of the crisis was there lesser as in the rest of Spain. Why? F.i. the people could not be fired as they were co-owner of the firm. So between the firms an agreement was made to give workers a job in the other cooperatives if his own cooperative had no job for him at the moment. And it worked out well!!
The workers were well motivated and thankfull. So we must think about such formulas . It could also support a more sustainable economy. I believe if the economy does work the politics will follow. But we must be aware that the capitalistic states will not let it happen so easy.I do not give up examples now but look into history and you know it.
Malfidus: Hello Capricorn, I must admit in a United Europe, but not the way it is created. Indeed it is an artificial monster led by unwordly minds who's obsessiion is to become an economic power whatever it costs. I read a article in which was stated that todays democracies of the world are the best political framework for capitalism. Capitalism is based on humans greed. An instinct that is of no need anymore in this times was written in it. And I agree. We should evolve to more political systems were people have more influence in politics. I can't remember one at the moment. What I know is that economical it is possible. In a northern region of Spain a part of the county has much coöperatives and the impact of the crisis was there lesser as in the rest of Spain. Why? F.i. the people could not be fired as they were co-owner of the firm. So between the firms an agreement was made to give workers a job in the other cooperatives if his own cooperative had no job for him at the moment. And it worked out well!!
The workers were well motivated and thankfull. So we must think about such formulas . It could also support a more sustainable economy. I believe if the economy does work the politics will follow. But we must be aware that the capitalistic states will not let it happen so easy.I do not give up examples now but look into history and you know it.
The workers were well motivated and thankfull. So we must think about such formulas . It could also support a more sustainable economy. I believe if the economy does work the politics will follow. But we must be aware that the capitalistic states will not let it happen so easy.I do not give up examples now but look into history and you know it.
I completely agree with you that this current system (captalism as we see it today) is not working. The examples you have mentioned as successful are the same that existed in former socialist (you in the West called them communist) countries. I think Zizek, one of the main phylosophers of our times, wrote something about the need to discard the current system. will try to find that article and upload it here.
Otherwise, I agree with your words about the current EU and its leaders - a disaster for all of us!
HUGE RIOT in German nightclub after 500 immigrants break in and grope women
January 9, 2016|
Die Welt reports that the “Elephant club“, a nightclub in the city of Bielefeld, was attacked by an organized mob of about 500 immigrant men.
Nightclub bouncers phoned the police when the mob became aggressive and started throwing fireworks, but before the police could arrive, the mob broke into the nightclub and then started to grope the groins and chests of female visitors.
One of the men who stopped the mob of immigrants from groping said “Only by using physical violence, we could help women to break free.”
When police arrived a full-blown riot had broken out.
A police spokesman said the “aggressiveness of the men involved in relation to the security services was considerable.”
Rioting had been reported in the city, but German mass media had tried to cover up the extent of the riots, and the reason why they broke out.
An anonymous member of the EU’s security organizations criticized how this is being ignored by politicians.
“Nobody will admit Brussels policy is inherently linked to what happened in Cologne – they will not welcome such a link” he said.
The people in charge of the EU have been trying to “diversify” Europe with all these Arab and African immigrants. For some reason they want to get rid of Europe’s White majority.Everyone has their own ideas as to why they would want to do this, but the one thing we can say conclusively, is that their agenda is in breach of the UN genocide conventions – it is White genocide, and “diversity” or “multiculturalism” are the just code words they use to carry out this agenda.
!HUGE-RIOT-in-German-nightclub-after-500-immigrants-break-in-and-grope-women/cjds/569120f50cf2f5ee60f611fe
Is this the reason they came here????? The weolcoming committies, the politicians and the media are directly responsible
January 9, 2016|
Die Welt reports that the “Elephant club“, a nightclub in the city of Bielefeld, was attacked by an organized mob of about 500 immigrant men.
Nightclub bouncers phoned the police when the mob became aggressive and started throwing fireworks, but before the police could arrive, the mob broke into the nightclub and then started to grope the groins and chests of female visitors.
One of the men who stopped the mob of immigrants from groping said “Only by using physical violence, we could help women to break free.”
When police arrived a full-blown riot had broken out.
A police spokesman said the “aggressiveness of the men involved in relation to the security services was considerable.”
Rioting had been reported in the city, but German mass media had tried to cover up the extent of the riots, and the reason why they broke out.
An anonymous member of the EU’s security organizations criticized how this is being ignored by politicians.
“Nobody will admit Brussels policy is inherently linked to what happened in Cologne – they will not welcome such a link” he said.
The people in charge of the EU have been trying to “diversify” Europe with all these Arab and African immigrants. For some reason they want to get rid of Europe’s White majority.Everyone has their own ideas as to why they would want to do this, but the one thing we can say conclusively, is that their agenda is in breach of the UN genocide conventions – it is White genocide, and “diversity” or “multiculturalism” are the just code words they use to carry out this agenda.
!HUGE-RIOT-in-German-nightclub-after-500-immigrants-break-in-and-grope-women/cjds/569120f50cf2f5ee60f611fe
Is this the reason they came here????? The weolcoming committies, the politicians and the media are directly responsible
HUGE RIOT in German nightclub after 500 immigrants break in and grope women
January 9, 2016|
Die Welt reports that the “Elephant club“, a nightclub in the city of Bielefeld, was attacked by an organized mob of about 500 immigrant men.
Nightclub bouncers phoned the police when the mob became aggressive and started throwing fireworks, but before the police could arrive, the mob broke into the nightclub and then started to grope the groins and chests of female visitors.
One of the men who stopped the mob of immigrants from groping said “Only by using physical violence, we could help women to break free.”
When police arrived a full-blown riot had broken out.
A police spokesman said the “aggressiveness of the men involved in relation to the security services was considerable.”
Rioting had been reported in the city, but German mass media had tried to cover up the extent of the riots, and the reason why they broke out.
An anonymous member of the EU’s security organizations criticized how this is being ignored by politicians.
“Nobody will admit Brussels policy is inherently linked to what happened in Cologne – they will not welcome such a link” he said.
The people in charge of the EU have been trying to “diversify” Europe with all these Arab and African immigrants. For some reason they want to get rid of Europe’s White majority.Everyone has their own ideas as to why they would want to do this, but the one thing we can say conclusively, is that their agenda is in breach of the UN genocide conventions – it is White genocide, and “diversity” or “multiculturalism” are the just code words they use to carry out this agenda.
!HUGE-RIOT-in-German-nightclub-after-500-immigrants-break-in-and-grope-women/cjds/569120f50cf2f5ee60f611fe
Is this the reason they came here????? The weolcoming committies, the politicians and the media are directly responsible
January 9, 2016|
Die Welt reports that the “Elephant club“, a nightclub in the city of Bielefeld, was attacked by an organized mob of about 500 immigrant men.
Nightclub bouncers phoned the police when the mob became aggressive and started throwing fireworks, but before the police could arrive, the mob broke into the nightclub and then started to grope the groins and chests of female visitors.
One of the men who stopped the mob of immigrants from groping said “Only by using physical violence, we could help women to break free.”
When police arrived a full-blown riot had broken out.
A police spokesman said the “aggressiveness of the men involved in relation to the security services was considerable.”
Rioting had been reported in the city, but German mass media had tried to cover up the extent of the riots, and the reason why they broke out.
An anonymous member of the EU’s security organizations criticized how this is being ignored by politicians.
“Nobody will admit Brussels policy is inherently linked to what happened in Cologne – they will not welcome such a link” he said.
The people in charge of the EU have been trying to “diversify” Europe with all these Arab and African immigrants. For some reason they want to get rid of Europe’s White majority.Everyone has their own ideas as to why they would want to do this, but the one thing we can say conclusively, is that their agenda is in breach of the UN genocide conventions – it is White genocide, and “diversity” or “multiculturalism” are the just code words they use to carry out this agenda.
!HUGE-RIOT-in-German-nightclub-after-500-immigrants-break-in-and-grope-women/cjds/569120f50cf2f5ee60f611fe
Is this the reason they came here????? The weolcoming committies, the politicians and the media are directly responsible
I saw today on the national broadcast a docu of an American journalist who visited all the warzones in Syria. What struck me is that their are still 18 million Syrians that live in the war zone and have no intention to flee to live abroad. Those who fleed where the richer middleclass. The people in the zone controlled by Assad have still a normal life. About 20 miles from Homes a holiday resort for tourists was finished!! Then a propaganda spot should be made and therefore everyone was invited to send his project.
The respons was massive....the designs spoke for themselves. A few good marketing pictures but the rest showing the horror of the country accompanied by scoffing slogans. Showing how the world thinks about it.
Again it was clear that this is more than a civil war between two movements in a religion, as Christianity faced a few centuries ago in Europe = the wars between the conservative Catholics and the progressive protestants. Also then on stake was the possesion of the political power the true reason. L'histoire se répete as the French say.
The respons was massive....the designs spoke for themselves. A few good marketing pictures but the rest showing the horror of the country accompanied by scoffing slogans. Showing how the world thinks about it.
Again it was clear that this is more than a civil war between two movements in a religion, as Christianity faced a few centuries ago in Europe = the wars between the conservative Catholics and the progressive protestants. Also then on stake was the possesion of the political power the true reason. L'histoire se répete as the French say.
About the crimes in Cologne, Bremen etc...Is it possible that these criminal actions could be set up with the intention to disparage the refugees?? I should certainly facilitate Germany and other countries to create new repressive decrees so they can control and manipulate the people( natives and immigrants).
Malfidus: I saw today on the national broadcast a docu of an American journalist who visited all the warzones in Syria. What struck me is that their are still 18 million Syrians that live in the war zone and have no intention to flee to live abroad. Those who fleed where the richer middleclass. The people in the zone controlled by Assad have still a normal life. About 20 miles from Homes a holiday resort for tourists was finished!! Then a propaganda spot should be made and therefore everyone was invited to send his project.
The respons was massive....the designs spoke for themselves. A few good marketing pictures but the rest showing the horror of the country accompanied by scoffing slogans. Showing how the world thinks about it.
Again it was clear that this is more than a civil war between two movements in a religion, as Christianity faced a few centuries ago in Europe = the wars between the conservative Catholics and the progressive protestants. Also then on stake was the possesion of the political power the true reason. L'histoire se répete as the French say.
The respons was massive....the designs spoke for themselves. A few good marketing pictures but the rest showing the horror of the country accompanied by scoffing slogans. Showing how the world thinks about it.
Again it was clear that this is more than a civil war between two movements in a religion, as Christianity faced a few centuries ago in Europe = the wars between the conservative Catholics and the progressive protestants. Also then on stake was the possesion of the political power the true reason. L'histoire se répete as the French say.
I forgot to mention a part of the docu: "The influence of the Jews in this conflict should not be underestimated as the Romans once said "divide and rule" was a statement.
Malfidus: I forgot to mention a part of the docu: "The influence of the Jews in this conflict should not be underestimated as the Romans once said "divide and rule" was a statement.
In that incident in Cologne in NYE, a particular group of muslims claimed that the victims are the real suspects, while the suspects are encouraged to be declared not guilty and they have been set free. That so called group named "Muslim Stern" has blamed the similar "devide et impera" for this kind of incident without having ability to accept the facts that those incidents caused by refugees or immigrants from where islam is a major belief that those immigrants believed in.
You and those people like you have to learn from a north African who is not shy of claiming that this incident in Cologne has something to do with islam.
http://www.cicero.de/berliner-republik/zu-den-ereignissen-koeln-religion-ist-mitverantwortlich/60341
kaetchenvonhn:
"........
You and those people like you have to learn from a north African who is not shy of claiming that this incident in Cologne has something to do with islam."
Intersting news about you. North African!
ex colonist?....or Immigrant?
LG!
"........
You and those people like you have to learn from a north African who is not shy of claiming that this incident in Cologne has something to do with islam."
Intersting news about you. North African!
ex colonist?....or Immigrant?
LG!
Capricorn143: And who voted for your current and previous government? It was Sweden that invited them first!
I voted NO, although the question should be: more migrants from Muslim countries. Migrants from other parts of the world integrate, they participate in the workforce and do not cause problems making demands because of their religion.
Europe should immediately change the asylum system and NOT GIVE residence or citizenship to the ones that have come. EU should finaly use its countries' navies to prevent the ones coming from entering Europe.
True.....Sweden has always tried to the saint of the world....But they fail in one point..their own citizens.....Im so glad I dont live there anymore.....Sweden will see the result of this madness in 5 to 10 years...I voted NO, although the question should be: more migrants from Muslim countries. Migrants from other parts of the world integrate, they participate in the workforce and do not cause problems making demands because of their religion.
Europe should immediately change the asylum system and NOT GIVE residence or citizenship to the ones that have come. EU should finaly use its countries' navies to prevent the ones coming from entering Europe.
Yasmyi: I don't want emigrants at all. Emigrants from Africa is a source of problems, such as diseases (AIDS or HIV), rising rate of unemployment, devastation, mess, anger, imposition of islam and so on.
Europe will waste a huge amount of money for muslims. Simply saying, for nothing positive.
I am against of these wild eastern people in Europe. It's very bad idea!
You are absolutly correct......But you forgot one thing.Not so long ago Polish people flooded Scandinavia......Yes some was hard working people some of them not.Europe will waste a huge amount of money for muslims. Simply saying, for nothing positive.
I am against of these wild eastern people in Europe. It's very bad idea!
Oh no, that "ex-colonist and immigrant" things again 
sevenseas: True.....Sweden has always tried to the saint of the world....But they fail in one point..their own citizens.....Im so glad I dont live there anymore.....Sweden will see the result of this madness in 5 to 10 years...
And how do you see Berlin and its quartiers nowadays after the policy of Merkel? Interesting to get some sight for someone who lives there close to Merkel's place
They all should be tested on diseases and given a course on behaviour.
One single touch to a woman to kick them out of the EU.
Anything else will miserably fail.- Merkel will fall anyway as her politics will not work in the current EU.
One single touch to a woman to kick them out of the EU.
Anything else will miserably fail.- Merkel will fall anyway as her politics will not work in the current EU.
On a old news report I heard the reason why Danemark is so opposed against migrants. They figured out that immigrants who are in the country over 10 years or more only 40% has a job!!
Knowing for instance that Germany has now 1 million refugees it is obvious they will have an serious hangover on this "adventure"
Another news, France is now installing containers for the Dunkerk refugees. Why this turnover? Humanitarian reasons? No! Its the non governmental organisation "medecins sans frontieres" that already started an new tent camp south of Dunkerk. This putted the pressure on the politicians.What to think about it??
Knowing for instance that Germany has now 1 million refugees it is obvious they will have an serious hangover on this "adventure"
Another news, France is now installing containers for the Dunkerk refugees. Why this turnover? Humanitarian reasons? No! Its the non governmental organisation "medecins sans frontieres" that already started an new tent camp south of Dunkerk. This putted the pressure on the politicians.What to think about it??
kaetchenvonhn: And how do you see Berlin and its quartiers nowadays after the policy of Merkel? Interesting to get some sight for someone who lives there close to Merkel's place
Unfortunatly I haven't been in Berlin since dec 2014..So I coulden't say.
stop what? the German people should be thankful they can now get the help they need to survive and make the lives of their elderly better and happier. The refugees are incredible people and this will always be demonstrated.
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Ah yes, first end those silly wars immediately.
And no, I don't expect the EU to handle this in the next 10 years or so...