For God’s sake, give it a rest

The original words that were translated, interpreted and then compiled into what has come to be known as the Bible, were written by men. I don’t think that is in dispute. Things only start to become contentious when it is claimed that these men were simply taking down dictation from God; or at least that is what I understand is being claimed by the people who describe the Bible as the word of God. Just how reliable can we take these ancient scribes to be? How can we be sure they weren’t just making it all up?.

When we don’t even seem to be able to trust the information coming to us hot off the press, informing us about current events as they are happening, how much faith can justifiably be put in stuff that was reported hundreds of years ago.

God may well be up there in his Heaven, who knows? It’s not for me to say he isn’t. It just strikes me as questionable that an awful lot of people are willing to accept an archaic collection of words, written by rather primitive people, as the manufactures manual on the way the Human Race should conduct itself on planet Earth.

I only say this in response to the current onslaught of apocalyptic warnings we are experiencing. I don’t particularly want to question anyone’s beliefs but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to raise the issue when people are continually trying to interfere with mine.
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Some people need to believe in something otherworldly to make sense of what they don't understand in this world.
This has been going on since the eve of time.
For example, we can't control the weather, so they prayed to weather-gods to make them feel like they had some control.
It's the same with the bible or any holy book. They were written by men, usually hundreds or thousands of years after the supposed events. Written in another era in the Middle East which has a different culture to many who folliw it to the letter.
As with anything, there is good and bad in it. But nobody should follow anything blindly. Especially archaic writings which have little relevance in our society.
One doesn't need it to know right from wrong, or to live a decent life being respectful to all our universe and all within it.
...a ferm believer I know about, had a heartattack not long ago, and was accually dead for a few minutes, before they managed to "restart" him again...
-later he told how dissapointed he was, because he didn`t see any bright light on the other side....
...he had`nt experienced anything spechial at all, everything just turned black.

...there might be a few (billion) dissapointed souls ahead...dunno

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@Viking, I hate when that happens! grin

Anyway, maybe he had to change his beliefs, somehow? dunno


Hi Herbie wave Not really interested in what the Bible says, or the Koran as people will interpret it how they wish. dunno
Hi, Dani, don`t know what hes believes are now, but he is one of those going to church every Sunday, singing hes hymns and live by the book all the time.... Hallelujah!angel
...but no light to be seen... sad, accually...

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I´d like to share a nice little story about beliefs...

There are these two guys sitting together in a bar in the remote Alaskan wilderness. One is religious, the other is an atheist and the two are arguing about the existence of God...

The atheist says: "Look, it´s not like I don´t have actual reasons for not believing in God, It´s not like I haven´t ever experimented with the whole God and prayer thing.
Just last month I got caught away from the camp in that terrible blizzard and I was totally lost and couldn´t see a thing, so I tried it! I fell to my knees in the snow and cried out "oh God, if there is a God, I am lost in this blizzard and I´m gonna die if you don´t help me".

And now, in the bar, the religious guy looks at the atheist all puzzled. "Well then, you must believe now", he says. "After all, here you are, alive"
The atheist just rolls his eyes "No, man, it was only a couple of Eskimos who happened to come wandering by and showed me the way back to the camp.



This shows how the exact same experience can mean two totally different things to two different people with different beliefs. conversing
I don´t know Viking.... Maybe he wasn´t ready to depart this world yet? dunno

Or... maybe he was shown that he had the wrong beliefs? That there is NO light at the end of the tunnel? dunno
...and like in youre story, Dani, he probably thinks God sendt some eskimoes to bring him back to life...?confused

...it`s impossible to argue with peoples believes... only thing thats worse, is arguing with a woman...sigh

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That´s right! thumbs up applause
yeah, womans alwayes right!grin
Evidence is only evidence when it confirms what one wants to believe, Viking.
I agree, Daniella, people will interpret it how they want to. Why they want to believe we will shortly be going up in a puff of smoke is beyond me, though.
Har, conversion is one of the jobs of evangelicals.
Most don't even need to get paid. They've been told payment will come on the other side.

I tried that with my bank manager, it didn't work.
Yes, molly, they think it their duty to try to "save" errant souls.
If everybody looked after their own, and left everybody else to look after theirs, it would make life easier on everybody.
Hi Harbal, i believe in God and the Bible. I was raised in the Church and the love of God is in me from this. I raised my Children in Church and the love of God is in them as well. I believe this was the greatest achievement I made with my kids.

I don't try to push my believes on anyone cause nothing I can say or do is going to change anyone, that is between a person and. God.
Ken and Grouch. wave Thanks for the historical detail and observations, it all supports the point I'm trying to make.
Wen, if all believers were like you, there wouldn't be a problem. You treat everyone with friendliness and respect. If that is a result of your religious beliefs then all credit to them; although I suspect it's mostly because you're a naturally nice guy. handshake
Harbal, thanks for the kind words

One thing I would like to say, I hope to see everyone in Heaven. handshake
The believers I'm referring to do not spread much love around, that's for sure, imp. wine
Yes, BW, that's what I'm saying, too. wave
Hi Harbal..only just read your blog and would like to say - hear hear! cheers
Hi, robby. I love it when people agree with me. wave
I don't agree with parents imposing a religion on their children.
I believe in allowing people to do their own research, make their own choices.
Not telling them they are born with somebody else's sin and have to spend their entire lives trying to get rid of it.
Cervatilla....oh right ...I see...wanna come down the pub? hug
Of course there were other civilisations.

Chinese, Mesopotamian, etc.

Newgrange in Ireland was built 3000 years before Christ.
there was nobody before Christ.
String, was not Mary, his mother, born before him?
should be before God.
Molly, I don't know much about Newgrange but I did once look it up and, on seeing a diagram of its layout, came to a quick conclusion about the idea behind it. I don't know what the official, academic line on it is, but my impression was rather visceral, in a biological, reproductive way.
Welcome, string, I'm glad you have momentarily stepped out of the valley of the shadow of death to join us here. Please make yourself at home and stay as long as you like. hug
no, I was not in the valley of death just in the kitchen having something to eat.laugh
I think there's hope for you yet, string. cheers
Harb, going with your reply to Wen.......
Wen, if all believers were like you, there wouldn't be a problem. You treat everyone with friendliness and respect. If that is a result of your religious beliefs then all credit to them; although I suspect it's mostly because you're a naturally nice guy.

Question ... Don't you think Ms String is a nice guy as well???
Yes, itchy, I think he probably is. Not sure he would say the same about me, though.hole
Yes, itchy, you're right. No matter how I try, I can't get the better of him. But then he has got God on his side.
When I say “I am a Christian I’m not shouting “I’m clean living,” I am whispering, I was lost, and now I am found and forgiven.
When I say “I am a Christian I don’t speak with pride, I am confessing that I stumble and need Christ to be my guide.
When I say I am a Christian I am not trying to be strong. I’m professing that I am weak and need His strength to carry on.
When I say I am a Christian I am not bragging of success. I am admitting I have failed need the Lord to clean my mess.
When I say I am a Christian I am not claiming to be perfect, my flaws are far too visible but God believes I am worth it.
When I say I am a Christian I am not holier than thou I’m just a simple sinner who received God’s good grace somehow.
Well yes, molly, but my thoughts were a bit more academic than you make it sound. It made me think of the Egyptian pyramids and two completely different concepts of how to achieve the same thing.
laugh laugh Harb, that he does angel wink
That's fair enough BC. When I say I am not a Christian, I am just saying I am not a Christian. That's all I'm not saying.
I suspect that if there is a God,he actually prefers the sinners (or at the very least is more entertained by them).
Think about it, would God rather spend time with Ned Flanders or Homer. Nuff said. . devil
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