"Mercy Killing" Is it forbidden?

I know this blog is a bit sensitive.As I always ask from everybody if we can be civil enough.Thank you.
There are situations that are accepted
e.g 1.Some hospitals have its protocol in doing so.
2.How about in the Military?



Have you ever heard of Captain Semrau?

He was an officer in the Canadian armed forces deployed in Afghanistan.

After an intense firefight, he executed a prisoner that was deemed too weak to even make it to the hospital.

According to the Geneva Convention, a prisoner of war has to be taken care of.

His actions were deemed unethical and he got demoted to second lieutenant. The judge judged that he honestly believed he was doing the right thing. But how can we expect our troops to follow the rules if our officers can't follow them?

So instead of a life in prison he got demoted to second lieutenant and honourably discharged from service.

So no, it's not acceptable to mercy kill, even though the enemy has been blown up by an Apache helicopter and is barely breathing.

Here's an article related to that story:


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How sad that CS is a zone where you have to ask people to be civil.

Not going to be asked of many of us. I would suggest trying not to have a witness around if one has to make the choice - OR making a committee decision polling everyone there. Of course in the latter case the person will likely have died before a decision is reached and maybe that's for the best.

Taking a life, mercy or not, is playing God - we do it for our animals, we can't for fellow human beings.

A doctor who was being begged by his patient to put her peacefully to sleep instead gave her six sleeping pills. Fixing his eyes on her he said slowly and carefully, 'do NOT take more than two. They are very powerful, you only need one, do NOT take more than two.'

He returned the next morning and she had obediently taken only two. He said it was a huge lesson to him in what people say they want, and what they really do want.
wave biff

In my years of working in ICU/CCU I have witnessed some cases of it.This includes
patients on ventilators with organs not functioning anymore.In this setting if you picture it families will called for a meeting from admin to let families understand why so they have their option and a form
"DNR Form" (Do Not Resucitate ) to be signed.
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Opinion carried out.handshake
Yup both my parents signed DNR forms but that's more a case 'do not bring back to life'. I know what you mean about the ICU cases, though, and switching off life-support. I've told my daughter on pain of haunting not to ever let me be kept alive artificially. uh oh
biff thumbs up As early as my age now
I am open with my 2 big boys regarding what I want incase my life gets me off.
I dont like that kind either.hug
A demotion isn't much of a penalty for killing a prisoner of war .
Would he have done the same thing, and received the same penalty, if it were one of his own men?
I doubt it.
hey Mollywave

I love war movies and mostly I have watched are like of that scene where a soldier were shot by the same troop because he was gremazing in pain and asked the troop to shoot him.
In the end of the story the whole troop was investigated and received the penalty according to their Miltary Rules.cheers
Ysabel, I would think in real life, they are much more likely to kill an opponent than one of their own.

I'm not saying he didn't do it for compassionate reasons. I'm sure he did. But the Geneva Convention is there for a reason, and must be upheld.
Agree Mollythumbs up
No way out ....just wondering what if " case to case basis" why he did that or other reasons does that penalize anyone?cheers
Ysabel, then we are playing god.
The convention was put in place to protect all POWS, and choosing when, and if, it should apply is moving into dangerous territory.
POWS?confused
Acronym for prisoners of war
I'm pro Mercy killings but sadly it would be taken advantage of by a few evil people but what is best for overall is what is important to me, so if it has to be a case by case it should be. A much more severe punishment for any who take it to the extreme or take advantage of it.

I have a DNR on file and have talked about it to my family so they could all be aware in the even the unforeseen happens.
Faywave
In my years of dealing with people some would understand and grasp it slowly till they understand some would really blame othersdunno
I do appreciate how you perceive things
the acceptance would take slowly but at the end of the day ...its okayhug
Jen, I'm for it. Dr. Kevorkian is my hero.

I have zero tolerance for pain.
Having said that, when a person ask for it, witnesses and a written and documented will must be in force. Prove that there's justice in it.

I already instructed my children, if and when I'm in a position much like all the patents under my hero then do it as I instructed.
Y, B, U, LJ--- Good points. This example of so called mercy killing is said to be more common in war than we may think. And not just of the enemy. And it happens in medicine, usually "indirectly", regularly. Just two weeks ago, we siblings decided, along with Mum's Doctor, nurses and hospice nurse, to have her sent home, where she always wanted to pass, for "comfort care only---no special efforts", to be in the very helpful home hospice care. She may have been in mild heart failure, could have had an infection, and had a worrisome bed sore. All this in the context of end stage Parkinson's illness. She remained alert, only marginally so, until almost the end, but wasn't taking food, and we could only get her to take a few ice chips. In theory, all of her issues might have responded to extraordinary interventions, and perhaps she would have been with us a little longer. But it all had to occur in hospital, and would be no fun for anyone (Feeding tubes, etc.) So she only had us with her, along with hospice staff, to provide comfort, which included a little morphine and anxiety medication. Very gentle death, with eyes looking at some of us, and a trace of a smile. Lots of other such examples of ? Mercy deaths. As with CFM, lots of things have their place, in well vetted and relatively rare circumstances. And never just for convenience, or gain for others.
Hey Vierhug I am sorry to know about your mom .Yes it can happen to anyone in this stage when we family need to understand rather than prolonging the agony with too much pain for both the patient and family.Thank u for sharingcheers handshake
Vier

I understand what u are getting into.
I am aware of that from the Bible but if I put that aside and I have considerations of things the law and protocols of an institution.handshake wave
wave BN wow
Were you there for something? grin
Yeah I had too with the Nun Convention
all is quiet and peacefulhandshake cheers
Stringwave

Pardon me this should be address to uhandshake
I understand what u are coming from.
I am aware of that from the Bible but if I put that aside and I have considerations of things the law and protocols of an institution.handshake waveteddybear
John, great information. The last paragraph confirms my position.
I'm all for mercy killing
There are quite a few on CS that I have on my short list

Be afraid be very afraid

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I don't know if it is wrong to kill a suffering person if he/she begs you to do it. Just hope someone will be good enough to help me out when I am in terrible pain with no hope of recovering. What if you are trapped in a burning vehicle...knew a man who shot a little girl in a situation like that. There was now way he could get her out and watching her burn to death, screaming and begging for help was too much for him.
heywave cresto
nice of u to dropped by grin I hope I am not one of themhandshake
Getting scared nowconfused peace
eks wave

We are not of course.We are not the Almighty.
But in cases like this ,there should be done @ least to ensure the chance of treating the person....I can imagine if one is burning in fire and in pain and asked me to finish his/her life.No I wouldnt to that thats murder already...scold
I will cal 911 to help me outhandshake cheers
BW

Every state ánd every institution has their own governing law when regards to Euthanasia or commonly called "mercy killing".

In almost hospitals each has their protocols to follow in cases of patients with multiple organ damaged.
Usually there should always a signed consent if family members would agree.
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