"ALL BETS ARE OFF"

Way Back...In The Biblical Era..................The Jewish People ....................................Were Given...And Allowed The Land................................ That God Granted Them
On Certain Conditions......And One Of These Conditions Was......................................That They Worshipped................................................... No Other Gods

For....It Was Only 40 Days..... After The Jews Received The Torah From Mount Sanai
(The Commandments From God)
That The Jews Created Their Own God....(A Golden Calf)...And Worshipped This........ As A God

Now...If Im Correct......One Of Gods Commandments..................(In A Laymens Term)...Was

"If You Want This Land I Have Granted Thee?
"Then There Shall Be No Gods Other Than I"

So..If This Was One Of Gods Rules?...(Which ...It Most Certainly Was)...... For The Jews To Have This Given Land.... As Their..... "Promised Land?"
And They Went And Disobeyed This Rule?
Then?....When They Made And Worshipped.... That Golden Calf?"
"As We Americans Would Say Here?"
"All Bets Are Off"............."Meaning?"

"The Jewish People Have No Ligitimate Claim To Palestine"
(Since They Broke That Rule From God...Way Back Then"
"Therefore...Their Jewish Claims Of Ownership...By The Zionist....... Of The Palestinian Land They Now Call Israel?"
"Was Null And Void...... A Long Time Ago Way Back Then


"And ...One Day...Possibly In Our Lifetime?"

"Once More......It Again.....Will Be Known As...............Palestine"



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Namwave
Good day to you.It reminds me years back when I was working in Jordan.That time when lots of Palestinian moved to Jordan
because of War happened there.According to my Palestinian flat mates 1 also from Israel .Think it has to do with the claiming of lands if I remamber it right.cheers
They were spread and cast out of their land but also promised to be returned to it after a time. The Bible does give the borders and people for Israel to have.

It was never palistine or palistinian(until the Greeks became better known). More like Philistines. The land was usurped many times from different lands of God's choosing to punish Israel.

Now they have been returned as of roughly 1948. Many say it matches the biblical time line. For a country considered to be so small yet continually able to fend off so much; I would think more than twice before trying to give away or take what God has outlined and promised.
Check the history and maps according to then and now.

Philistine was with in the borders God gave. There were also other lands and/or people mentioned that God granted to Israel as part of the promised land.

It was the Greeks that referred "philistine" over to "palistine".
@Draegoneer

What history maps? Since when?

I'm not religious but I believe in God. God wasn't a real estate agent. "Chosen", "Master race" from a written book?

When was the "book" written?
Are you talking about Zeus, Flavius Josephus, Plato or hieroglyphics?

What book (scripture) do you believe? I don't believe or have faith of any of the nonsense of it.
Then maybe you shouldn't critique what you haven't even tried to extensively read or learn.
What nam states is true.

But there is a lot more to the whole picture concerning God, the Bible, history, and archeology.
@ysabeljhen

I can't argue with that. That's your faith and belief.

Abram and Sarai were from Assyria which is nowhere near "modern" day Israel.

I respect your faith regardless of your personal views/faith/belief or religion but I don't follow your doctrine. You have a good heart
@Draegoneer

There's no archeology regarding Gwyneth Paltrow, Roman Polanski or Benzion Mileikowsky (Ben Netanyahu)?

Facts aren't anti semitic.

And yes, you and Nam are right......history only matters when you're right. Holodomor was a fact as well. Personally I don't see the fascination for "Israel"???

Maybe your Governance in the area, ie territory??? Maybe it's your faith??? Maybe it's the spaghetti monster in the sky? Maybe it's the ADL?????confused
Not Taffies though, love the Taffies, Welsh are good honest rugby players. My Bad.
Each time Israel is brought up, I'm also reminded that the Bible also says that Israel will never know peace until the return of the Messiah.

I have seen nothing in modern day to discredit any thing in the Bible.

Something with such accuracies as man does continue to discover and learn.
Yep, you should write a book about it. The title should be "THIRD TESTAMENT"

angel
...politics and religion...not for me.uh oh

cool wine
To think how many many moons ago they lived side by side in peace and harmony.
Adam and Eve were kicked from the garden. The first blood shed was that of making clothing for them.

God didn't forsake or deny them as people. He didn't condemn them. He punished them and it carried through out.

The Promise of the land stood and stands. Certain covenants were made. Sometimes chosen prophets and priests intervened on behalf that God with held his wrath. The covenant; He will never break.

How ever, rulers or leaders, will come and go. Push hard enough and they may go quickly rather than long standing to rule and lead. More than a few leaders were given to their enemies or even died quickly for going too far.

Israel can't be in that big of a hurry for much. They didn't touch the Mosque when they entered into Jerusalem during their 6 day war.

Palestine isn't recognized by most Arab nations yet it's used for political purposes against Israel. Israel IS recognized but some of the countries want them annihilated.

Who attacked who first? Why do they keep it going?

I've sat back for many years now. Israel won't be destroyed or moved much unless God allows it. There is nothing but the warnings of their never ending battles and struggles after the return to the lands, until Judgement day.
Nam

Seriously; it’s not legal, under international law, to take land by force from the people who already live there.

This was both a concern, and an ongoing argument, from the earliest days of the Zionist movement.

Finally, those who felt that forcing out the native residents was acceptable won out - and that’s what they did, and what they are continuing to try to do ....handshake

It is debatable sigh
Miss YSA

"Thats Debatable?"


" Under International Law?"

"Its Is Forbidden To Occupy Those Lands"

"With The Victors People"


"The West Bank Falls Into This Category"

"And The Zionist?

"Keep Building Settlements On These Lands"...........................detective
Nam

My idea on Palestine side....


Seriously; it’s not legal, under international law, to take land by force from the people who already live there.

This was both a concern, and an ongoing argument, from the earliest days of the Zionist movement.

Finally, those who felt that forcing out the native residents was acceptable won out - and that’s what they did, and what they are continuing to try to do ....handshake

It is debatable sigh.
Yeah Nah.

Israel was a land. Israelite(tribes) were people. But first, it was a name given to patriarch Jacob(Israel-"one that struggled with the divine angel").

The name for the land didn't even come into play until after the Exodus. Jacob's renaming took place in Genesis.
With the Israel/Palestine conflicts on right of claiming the promise land is debatable ...I think A better question would be “What solution to the conflict would result in the fewest dead, exploited and traumatized people?”handshake peace
Here's a fun fact which might sound ridiculous to some but still holds water.

Bruce Lee once said "If you get all the disciples in a room, they'd dissagree but if you brought the prophets to a meeting they'd unanimously agree on the TRUTH"

@Drag

"Jacob's renaming took place in Genesis." ???

No, before Jacob there was a land called Canaan. Jacob was a tribe of people and not from "Israel" nor "Samaria" nor "Judea". Read your bible in context.

Abram the Hebrew (cross over) never named Isaac nor Jacob the Israelites.

But, you believe what you want to believe. You're probably right. You must be of the 'chosen ones' confused
Yeah Nah

Abraham's call was also started in Genesis and because it hasn't been too awful long ago that I was reviewing some things, I believe it was chapter 12.

And now I remember why your references didn't quite make sense. Abraham and his wife had to travel into Syrian or Canaanite territory, to land God would show him. We're talking ancient history; Mesopotamia was his starting point when he received his calling.
Yeah Nah

read Genesis chapter 32.

The tribes of Israel aren't quite descended yet.

I swear you're gaming this stuff on purpose. mumbling

What have you to contribute on the Israel-Palistine topic?
@Drago

"I swear you're gaming this stuff on purpose"???

Nah, you just don't like getting confronted.

You're truth is your truth, this will go around in circles regardless. handshake
@Drago

Just out of curiosity.

Are you "chosen"??

Straight forward question deserves a straight forward answer.

God bless you rolling on the floor laughing
Yeah Nah

I'm aware of the the land of canaan, the curse of ham.etc.

As far as chosen, i've no idea what you're referring too.


Miss Lindseywave

'bout the time you can sit, I'll have to go again.

Hope all is great with you and calmer days.

grin
@LJ
"I'm so pressed with time otherwise I would jump in."????

Hmmmmm, and yet you took the time to 'jump in'

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a Gods send and I agree with most of your views but just take the time to take time?

You make no sense?
teddybear
@Drago
Nope, I never mentinioned "Ham". Read my comments again, when you've read my comments again, again and then agiain

Are you chosen or not? Straight forward question

Believe me bro, this will go round in circles. I'm pretty clued up. drinking
Canaan wouldn't be with out ham. Ham's son "canaan" married a desecendant of cain and is considered to be the father of the land. After the great flood. Sunday school stuff.
@Drago

Yeah, you might be right. Are you the chosen few? You don't seem to answer straight forward questions.

Basic question, are you from Israel? Yes or no sleep
@Drago

You're either thick or dumb. Play a fanciful pretentious play or just be honest.

I never mentioned "Ham"......are you honest?

Must be horrible when you've been shown up.

Are you serious? Man, must be embarrassing rolling on the floor laughing
I must be off to bed.

Even among themselves in the Arabic-muslim countries, there has never been peace in that part of the globe, long enough to make a difference. Right down into Africa.

What ever happens with Israel, even if the palistinian thing is ever settled, there's still Iran and a few others for them to contend with. The U.N itself over all, isn't too friendly with them either.
I fail to see where I've been shown up.


Your view Yeah Nah. you can have it.
Before Israel possessed the land promised to them by God, the land was called Canaan. The name Canaan, we find in the Bible, is the son of Ham, son of Noah, whose descendants settled the area after the Flood. Genesis 9:18: Now the sons of Noah who went out of the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And Ham was the father of Canaan.
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"Its Good To Hear From You My Lady"

"Havnt Heard From You In Years"


"You Short Comment Here?"


"Goes Right To The Reality"

"Which Nobody Here?"

"Will Talk About"..."Thank You".................detective
It was God that guided the earliest group(s) of people to what was to become Israel.

I don't recall any promises made that man wouldn't suffer from other men. In fact; pretty much the opposite is guaranteed since man's heart was considered dark from the beginning.

With what mankind doesn't stand behind yet perpetrates are the standards; how much truth is ignored and people just accept it as okay?

It starts with truth, laws, and rules. Since none of that matters according to what people want to see or use; who are we or any one, to say what's Godly?

The very book(s) many seek, is still a major foundation for laws and guidelines. It's not actually followed or upheld any more than what's been gleaned and built on from it.

But there aren't supposed to be repercussions or retaliations to any affects or from the affected. God has nothing to do with the damages. Individual choices may not have removed him, but governments and whole nations have, in one form or another.
"And The Way The Zionists Are Killing Unarmed People?'

"It Shall Be The Zionist That Will Be Removed"


(While God Sits In The Audience And Observes).................detective
It's been a two, three, even a four way street on that. Centuries for the muslim communities against each other, and decades for Israel being brought into the fray.

Long before the 6 day war when they were worried about fighting back then realized, they had no choice.

If forced that far, I wouldn't leave an enemy with an idea that he had living shields available to use either. Some areas of the globe, you can't play nice at all no matter what you would rather NOT do.
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