13 People shot dead in California bar by sole gunman

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I can't begin to imagine the icy fear which so many people are feeling right now, trying to establish if their loved ones are safe. Some will have their worst fears realised. Many, many people at the scene will be traumatised, families will be traumatised by coming so close, or affected by witnessing the impact on their loved ones.

I've got to take my hat off to the sheriff in that video clip for his professionalism in very difficult circumstances. I've watched a number of crime documentaries where mature, senior officers become emotional talking about their investigations. May we remember the impact on the emergency services personnel, the people treating the injured and those taking care of the dead. May we remember those who support the people carrying out this work.

May we also remember the words of the sheriff: the gunman was likely mentally ill. He will likely have had family and friends who will have to deal with his actions and his death.

These situations are so utterly tragic, so completely devastating, so far reaching, such a waste.
Very true Jac.

If there was a way to make it more difficult for those with mental illness to get guns, it would help.
It's okay, Jim. Trump is always talking with the NRA and the Rabbi will be over with his rocket launcher in a minute.
Where there's a gun will, there's a way sad flower
There are obviously some pretty low lifes in this country of ours.Negative stuff wasn't as media covered as it is now.

My heart go out to to families.sad flower
No matter where you turn in America we are having a mass shooting. As pro gun as I used to be I'm certainly rethinking my stance.

We have more bad people with easy access to guns then we do good people to protect us.
Maybe they need the adrenaline rush, the complete letting go of inhibitions and feelings of power and control in order to turn the gun on themselves.

Generally, our instinct is self-preservation, so maybe the rampage helps override that. Shooting themselves becomes an extension of the rampage, rather than a thoughtful, more conscious process.

Who knows how it works for each person?
This mother's son survived the massacre in Las Vegas last year, where 58 people were
slaughtered from a gunman from a hotel room.
But, he did not survive the gunman in the bar the other night.
Like many people who grieve the senseless murder of their friends & family,
she doesn't want prayers nor nice thoughts, she wants real change to prevent it
from happening to others;

Jesus, that's raw.

It has to be said, we've had mass shootings, but not as many as in the US.

We have guns, but not as many as in the US.
I believe that Jac

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It would interesting to compare the above graph with murder rates.
Jac has said it all really. I am devastated, yet again the perpetrator was known to police. I despair now of anyone feeling really safe in any city or crowded place. It' horrific.
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