The 'Great' Negotiator. lol

Breaking news ! Trump is holed up in the Whitehouse refusing to leave and hopefully holding his breath
until the Democrats approve $ 5 Billion for a wall. rolling on the floor laughing
That tactic may have worked with his father, when he was 5 years old.
But, it isn't happening. tongue

Supposed author of 'The Art of the Deal'. rolling on the floor laughing

Meanwhile, most of Washington DC has quit on him and now Trump has caused a partial government shutdown.
It appears that yet another segment of the government will be rooting him out of office. cheering
I'm sure they will wish him well.
"Have a nice impeachment." wave

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The lives of others matter not in the least to him, unless he can swindle them.
Sorry for the people affected by the shut down.

Not sorry it's shutdown. It's not Tr8ump's shutdown. It's congress' shutdown.

Don't believe every opinionated report about anything to do with impeachment. They still don't have grounds for it. The house has more options and control over each other in that aspect than they have a chance at Trump.
From today's USA Today, a fairly balanced newspaper not know for fabricating stories, unlike certain other media souces.
"WASHINGTON – In his first visit to U.S. troops in a conflict zone, President Donald Trump drew cheers when he told troops he won them their first raise in 10 years and suggested it was a whopping one. Neither is true.

TRUMP: “You just got one of the biggest pay raises you ever received. Unless you don’t want it. Does anybody here? Is anybody here willing to give up the big pay raise you just got? I don’t see too many hands. Ah, OK. don’t give it up. It’s great. You know what? Nobody deserves it more. You haven’t gotten one in more than 10 years. More than 10 years. And we got you a big one. I got you a big one.” – remarks prompting cheers Wednesday at al-Asad Air Base in Iraq.

THE FACTS: He’s wrong about there being no pay increase for service members in more than 10 years and about their raise being especially large.
U.S. military members have gotten a pay raise every year for decades. As well, several in the last 10 years have been larger than service members are getting now – 2.4 percent this year and 2.6 percent in 2019. Raises in 2008, 2009 and 2010, for example, were all 3.4 percent or more."

And the gullible still believe his lies doh
He didn't lie. He didn't say he gave them a 10% raise. But the current raise is already about twice of what obozo's was. About 9.6% or so by the end of his four year term.

Possibly about 20% by the end of his second term.

Get some facts straight will ya? The only thing he stretched was that they havenb't been getting their annual raises which os only true for about 2 years under obozo.
Facts



If Trump had not been overruled, the pay rise would have been less.
Those are the factsscold
R - are you actually trying to change the absentee mind of a Trump supporter with facts ?!?!?
Facts have nothing to do with their love for Trump. scold It's the constant stream of lies, that they love. heart beating laugh
Well, I guess it was stupid to assume a republican would actually question their "god" lol.

The fact the military has received an annual pay rise seems to be ignored by those who refuse to question anything.
I would have a lot more respect for Republicans who actually questioned their leader, and stopped condoning his lies, when trump loses more and more support from the Rep party, maybe he will start being more honest? Unlikely though, as many will still make excuses for him.
@ Draegoneer

No one said they were well paid, no one said they wouldn't receive a better pay rise, the liar said it was the biggest in 10 years that is proved untrue, the liar said they hadn't received a pay rise in 10 years, that is also proved untrue.
But carry on making excuses for the liar, I am sure it will make you feel better
I don't have to make excuses. I know. I don';t care if it's the biggest. Over time it might be. It's a f@ ck of lot better than the 1% I used to get. It's a f@ ck of a lot better than 2 years they didn't get one under obozo and higher than the 1.2to maybe 1.7%.

It's a thankless job. But it's helped defend people like you to express what ever you want in spite of any one's personal experiences and understanding.

Stop talking about what you can't pick apart properly.
I didn't say you Riz. I said people LIKE you.

You're an individual. But your not the only one with your views any where in the world.
He's doing fine. If every president had secured the border like they all promised, it wouldn't need secured. That legal immigrant police officer just recently killed in California, may not have been at the hands of an illegal immigrant.

Correction though. they did lose some years of no pay increase but it wasn't obozo. He was just one of the lowest barefootin' around.
Again. It's congress' shut down. Not Trump's.
Isn't that exactly what Wu stated in the video?

People think they have negotiated a greater slice of the pie than they really have and in part this is because the deal has yet to be actioned for the final figures to be realised.

Draegoneer, you're believing you're the best, or better negotiator than you are by proxy.

Wu also said people tend to believe that whatever they walk away with, it's the best deal they could have made further self-reinforcing their self-evaluation of their negotiation skills.

This even sounds like a Trump quote with it's short contradictory bullet points 'I know, I don't care, it might be'.
Jac, your thoughts and prospective fascinate me sometimes. I actually understand it mostly wave
Should I setup a "golfoundme page" or Mexico is paying for the wall?

It's all part of a big show. A publicity stunt to divert "Cohen and Russian tower collusion" , at Americans expense.

He thinks he's a real mob Don, and he wants his name on the wall, his legacy: "Trump Wall.". But he didn’t spend time learning how the government works for sure.

btw, "the End of America caravan", where are they now, Mar-a-Lago?



"Mar-a-Lago, his bayfront resort in Palm Beach, doubled its initiation fee from $100,000 to $200,000 after his election. Annual dues will rise about $1,000 next year, to $16,000, according to a report in The Palm Beach Post.

Tickets to his members-and-guests-only New Year’s Eve party have also gotten much pricier. In 2016 they were $525 each for members and $575 for their guests. Those prices jumped to $600 and $750 last year, and $650 and $1,000 for Monday night’s party. And those amounts do not include a mandatory 20 percent gratuity and 7 percent sales tax
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grab them by the walletwave
"But the current raise is already about twice of what obozo's was."

That's Obama, as in president Barack Obama. Why do you have trouble getting his name correct?
Played that game lots of times. I understand your reference. Another way of making the same point would be searching something on google. If you get a bunch of results saying the same thing, it might be worth attention. If you get 1 result saying something different, by all means have a look but take it with a grain.
Or the one google result saying something different might be the true match, a lone voice of dissent against a tide of popular, but erroneous belief, or propaganda.
Hence why I say have a look at it because you are right, sometimes its the one you need to see and can completely change everything. I try to be as open as I can. Sometimes it results in something awesome, admittedly, there have been times I also been disappointed but that's part of the game. Much more fulfilling to be open to things.
The difference between psychopathic and emotionally distanced behaviours is not a nuance.
One can only hope he's holding his breath......uh oh
There also appears to be some confusion over Trump's intellectual abilities.

Here we must ask, what is intelligence? It's the premiss of our argument.

The IQ test, whilst traditionally is deemed a reliable measure only evaluates a limited range of skills. With the introduction of EQ, Emotional Quotient, we're beginning to recognise that intelligence has many forms.

Trump is extremely canny and does have some well above average skills, but in the tradition of Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic traits, he'd likely score rather pitifully when it comes to empathy for others.

The advantage of this is that he'll have a disconnect with other people. He won't truly understand what he has missing because he has no experience of it. This has the effect of him being rather easy to spot as having something missing (unless the observer also scores low for emotional intelligence), but more importantly, it means he'll lack a certain level of self-awareness. He'll likely believe he's far more intelligent than he really is because he won't pick up on feedback and he won't recognise certain intelligence traits in others. That means he's going to make mistakes.

Catching serial killers is all about their mistakes. As you are wont to say on your side of the pond, do the math.
"Much of it comes from Russia..."

That has been verified in a video taped interview by Trump Junior.
If you doubt it, then you would be calling the president's son a liar.
Hmmm... let me think about that.
(lying father, lying son)

Okay mister "I know more about taxes than the IRS" show us your tax return. It's been more than two years. Ya think that audit is over by now?
They will all be paid once the shutdown is over, and that's up to the Dems.

How can they say they're for border security??? Someone explain this to me. Especially after an illegal murders a cop. You don't hear them talk much about THAT! And that's one of MANY! Would they change their tune if it was THEIR loved one murdered?

2 things:

1. Let's put them all in prison and see if they still say walls don't work! Does Pelosi's wall work? If they don't work, she should tear hers down.

All these dems were FOR a wall til Trump wanted it!
Chatillion,

"But the current raise is already about twice of what obozo's was."

That's Obama, as in president Barack Obama. Why do you have trouble getting his name correct?


Thanks, you saved me the task of asking the same question.thumbs up As soon as I see the word "Obozo" I stop reading no matter who says it. Some people seem to think that mocking on a persons name will somehow cast that person in a negative light, in fact it has just the opposite effect by making the speaker look weak and juvenile as though he/she hasn't the skill or ability to debate a subject without name calling.
Yeah, I stop reading too.

I assume from previous experience it's not going to be a coherent argument, so it's not worth reading.
Gosh, I miss the style and class of the Obamas blues
It didn't just flow from the hate for Obama, although for some of the disenfranchised white population, I'm sure having a successful black president and all that it entailed for black empowerment didn't help.

So often the disenfranchised need someone around of lower status to make themselves feel better about themselves. It's a contributory factor in the current choice of Mexican and Middle Eastern refugees as targets.

Trump's popularity runs deeper than that, though. Picking on those more vulnerable is merely a tactic in a far more complex psychosocial melee.
This is for you Toots. I saw this speech on TV and I said to myself, "Who is this guy?" This was one of the most incredible speeches I ever heard. What a speaker he was!

How can the dems balk at 5 billion, when illegals cost us MANY times that amount???

Try to figure out the liberal mind! They're making it very clear that this isn't about anything but obstruction.
I guess illegals are criminals and murderers unless they work at trumps golf course.....doh


How can Rebs not realise that a wall is not going to magic away the illegals already in the USA and that "cost" so much? It does not take a 5 billion dollar wall to stop people entering a country, all it takes is enforcing the rules already in place. doh
Pelosi and Schumer. blah

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holy guacamole. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

Ignorance is when they don't know something but could learn it. Stupidity is when they are incapable of grasping a complex concept, or retaining facts.

"McConnell and other GOP leaders in the Congress have made it clear they are not standing behind the president."The facts are clear. This shutdown all on Trump.

"Mitch McConnell Splits With Trump Over Government Shutdown, Returns to Kentucky"

B - The last line in the Newsweek article states it best;

You do have to hand it to Trump.
He found a way to bring Democrats & Republicans together on an issue......against him. rolling on the floor laughing
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