any architects in the house?

Hey,
i'm constructing a studio (for temp accomodations) in a workspace behind my house.

So i'm now getting at the point of ordering the bathroom + kitchen build and am still doubting how to divide it..

Are there here any volunteers that can brainstorm with me?
Or give me some advice at my ideas.

The place is about 33m2. groundfloor. One door to the outside, one door to the main house.
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I've a sneaking suspicion Chatillion will be along shortly.
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I'm not an architect, nor do I play on in a TV series.
One thing we don't know is how long/wide where the two doors are and any windows are as this can effect how it can be made the most of the space you have got..
Of couse, Biff, info from on line. Essential. Showing my tecnocultural age. But even old dogs.....
all made with "sweet home 3D"
i have a few more.
This was like the first batch.
@ Len - wave .... The building code in this country requires you to have at least one window in the bathroom and there needs to be one in front of the kitchen sink.


..... grin cheers
Rather like building projects , if I was doing it I would put the bathroom in the sharp corner , with the toilet bowl in the corner of it . The corner cannot be used usefully otherwise . Nobody wants to be sitting in a corner , back to a room reading or on a computer . As for a tolet there , not as though somebody sits on it all day . Important to , to have an outside window to the bathroom . You might to , consider cutting the corner into two with the shower and hand basin in the first bigger bit and the toilet bowl in the smaller corner . Depends a lot on access to drainage below ground where the bathroom goes .
in our country we only require suction by forced ventilation.

The problem i kinda have with the sanitary is that i hope to sell this house where the studio is an extra.
I had to invest for the walls and windows, to make it livable, so i want te recoup a little bit of money in the next year.
Or where i can mention during the sale a business can make it's office there. So a shower shouldn't be the most prominent thing.

Thanks for the comment about where the plumbing goes.
The joint wall with my house is my garage and the same corner is where my washing machine + central heating kettle is.
So gas, water, hot water, and big drain is there locally. And it isn't living space.

I have more issues, as being a private guy myself about what you can see from the outside, and how the bathroom looks when you open the door.

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this looks cute
I'm quite certain about the sanitary corner position.
The sharp corner is mess indeed. but there is nothing next to it, so it would mean piping to go all in and all back.

The windows point almost W.
They are at my garden side, with some neighbors having right of passage 3,5 meters further.
the original idea
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Am I being thick, I don't see the door to the outside?

Yup about positioning the shower and kitchen sink for easy access to drains

The sharp corner can have adjustable shelves built into it floor to ceiling to hold a TV, books, whatever, the narrowing space at the back of the shelves handy for storing smaller stuff.

Depending where the tenant / guests enter, ideal first impression should be the living area with the (usually unmade!) bed blocked from sight

Nice space.
Sorry spotted the door now doh
Great overlook it depends what your spending and how much metrials at a cost for waste. I always wanted to tell some one don't forget to put a Safe in the floor.If it is a concrete slab think big!cool
So to build the case.
In the roof there are 3 spots with glass , making it almost daylight inside. (i still need to isolate that glass and completely seal the terrace)
The shot is from almost the street.

As you can see the room is half a meter below ground level. making it a pit. But it also makes it a very heigh ceiling. (2m68 is the lowest beam)
I'm now removing the paint, i'll plaster the wall till just below the windows and then slap some isolation against that wall.


The door won't change side. it is a new one (as i prefer to keep it as the buffer against looking in from the street + neighbors garden).


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Welcome to my house by the way
I think you should try Utube .
Everything is there
i must say Ocee is on my page.
A sliding door or an inward turning door seems the best on plans.
The position of the furniture in the bathroom will depend a bit on the flow of water i fear.
A toilet dischargepipe is about 12cm. a showerpipe is at the ground.


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But time to get an offer from a contractor
That layout works although the kitchen will have to be kept immaculate as it is the first thing seen as the door opens laugh
Hmmm....the bed shouldn’t face the bathroom door or any door for that matter. Bad Feng Shui.

But then again, you won’t be living there for long and I know a lot of a Westerners don’t believe in Feng Shui ( except for Art, coz he has no choice, he’s with me and all the American billionaires that own casinos in Macau, they believe anything as long it generates money...lotsa money )

Anyway, good luck, Len handshake
The photos help a lot.
Need more dimensions. The plumbing wall that looks like 4.7 meters.
What length are the other 2 walls?
Are you trenching the floor for the toilet drain or wall mounting it like one photo example?
What size is the bed?
Len, do you have access to prefabricated fiberglass shower stalls?
The floor and side walls are one unit or in larger stalls, the walls overlap the floor pan so it gets assembles on the jobsite.
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There we go.

8m75 x 4m9 x 4m9 x 6m11

Max width of bathroom 2m33 because of the door.
Max length of bathroom + kitchen is the wall of 4m90.

I'm inserting a bed of 2m10 x 1m45. small two person (except in the original concept where it is single person and at the window)

I was checking out complete bathroom units. they have a little elevation, but already a roof and floor.
The corner where the bathroom will come is still quite full of stuff. and dust.

Thanks for the Fen shuy advice. i'll try.
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actually i'm kinda okay with this
I wish you luck Len I really do....I've no knowledge of architecture other than I love to look at it.

But Joseph Fritzel has killed my love at looking at floor plans and layouts....sigh

Hope it goes well for you.wave
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I reverted the bathroomdoor. made a kitchen table bar like.
added desk

teddybear teddybear

I'll hand a part of it over to the contracter.
i hope to get some info about the do's and don't.
Len, I'm working on a layout but I cannot upload it for a few hours.
this is the place his view. sun is getting to south.
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The red roof + bench is my terrace, underneath that space.
I added the windows.
the red kinda outlines mine and not mine.

I marked the 2 white doors from the neighbors that have a straight right of passage,. (foot)

I'm still trying to buy the blue lines. (i fear 7000 euro gross for 5 x 4 m2)
Now i kinda have to make a choice.
Make a garden or a parking lot (3 cars).
If i had the extra piece i could do both.
(if you have it closed off by automatic gate it goes 80 euro/car)
And the neighbors would normally loose their inherited right of passage.
But it is an investment that doesn't necesary pays off.

The red roof is my terrace, underneath that space.

It is an old picture. 2009 orso
Sight seeing from far not to much for maybe a third acre! on some note growing in pots for garden works got that flat roof at least you get sun. thanks for the peak. Bing works to image. cool
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And here a front view. (old again)

The main house is 4m9 by 10m5 . 3 full floors. (cellar is 7 x 1,5 ) (attic 3 x 4,9)
So my daughter and i won't miss that extra workspace. 33m2. as long as it doesn't have a purpose.
But the house is a bit weirdly divided.
Ground: is almost full hall and garage.
1st: toilet, huge kitchen(28,5m2), living room divided in 2 awkward pieces
2nd: 3 bedrooms. (1 huge) and to 2 bedrooms the ensuite bathroom
almost no supporting walls inside.
all ceiling are +2m60

After i bought it , i made the same drawings with that program.
That was mostly to fix the ventilation problem.

Across the street is a parking and beyond the gipsum factory and less then 500m bird flight you are at the scheldt river. 650m by foot.
6,3 km by bike will take you to the cathedral.
There is an intercity + local busstop across the street.

680m birdflight is a highway nearly the busiest spot of antwerp. :-( direction terrace.

I still find it a very good house.
Budgetwise i just need to make all the renovations count.
well the top roof received some solar panels. 6 SE in front and 4 SW on the flat part.

i plan a garden wall on the terrace. .And cover the floor with fake grass. (to dampen any sound) and it is easier to cut to keep the glas floor open..

And i made 2 meter garden boxes for the garden underneath the windows.


I'm now debating with the neighbors where the gate should be.
The old one isn't standing anymore.
I can't put a new one in the old spot as a car needs to park.
The blue area i want to buy, the current owners might box it off. so i might need to give them space to leave the premisses.
So it feels weird to put a gate when there is no fence yet. :-)
Len yes I wasn't knocking it .you got choices Square footage that's the key.. thumbs up
and to be honest.
i hoped to buy both the garden pieces of the neighbors. blue plus the one leading to the street.
Plus removing 2 passage ways in the meanwhile.
If i got to that almost full 5m8 streetwidth, and nearly 15 m deep i could have checked to make it buildable area.... +70,000euro ground if that succeeded.

but the one on the street divided his house into 3 apartments (6m x 6m). and he needed to provide a parking space in the garden for that..... so it is not for sale.
doh
and as i google measure. i think mygarden is only 95 m2.
Please why is there a door between your garage and their area? Wiil they have access through your garage utility room or through the door to the exterior.
the door is there. it has a lock.

the washing machine is there.

I'm keeping the door. as there is not enough push to seal it.
normally i was planning to make sanitary corner by that door and into my garage, but it seems not necesaary.
Len, I think my conversion from meters to inches is correct.
Please comment.

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Len, any update to your project?
and thank you for the great ideas. the desk location, the sofa area, wider bedroom.

super nice of you
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