Trump states that Windmills cause cancer
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Donald Trump Says Noise from Windmills 'Causes Cancer' — 'Idiotic,' GOP Senator Says
People
Maria Pasquini
PeopleApril 4, 2019
Donald Trump Says Noise from Windmills 'Causes Cancer' — 'Idiotic,' GOP Senator Says
President Donald Trump made a very bold — and very wrong — rebuke of wind power earlier this week.
During a fundraiser for the Republican National Congressional Committee on Tuesday, the president, a longtime skeptic of alternative energy, claimed that the noise produced by windmills “causes cancer.”
“If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer,” he said.
Although there is no evidence to suggest a link between the noise generated from wind turbines and cancer, USA Today pointed out that some critics have linked wind farms to “annoyances that could disrupt sleep, induce headaches or even cause mild nausea.”
However, according to a 2014 report from the National Institutes of Health, researchers found “that when sited properly, wind turbines are not related to adverse health.”
The following day, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, a leading Republican and supporter of wind energy, spoke out against Trump, telling reporters the president’s comments “were, first of all, idiotic,” according to the Des Moines Register.
Although Grassley did criticize Trump, he went on to say he believed the president’s comments, which did elicit laughter from the crowd, were “tongue in cheek.”
Politico also reported that Grassley, who went through the 1970s energy crisis, said he’s “going to give some leeway when he criticizes alternative energy.”
“I’ve lived through it, he never has,” Grassley said.
Iowa is the leading producer of wind energy in the United States. According to the Iowa Environmental Council, it was the first state to generate more than 30 percent of its electricity through wind power.
When asked by reporters whether there was any truth to the president’s comments about wind turbines and cancer, White House Director of Strategic Communications Mercedes Schlapp said she didn’t “have an answer to that.”
Additionally, although Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds acknowledged how important wind farms have been to her state’s economy, she said it’s “not my place” to contradict the president.
“You know how those things change,” she said, according to the Register. “One year, coffee’s good for you. The next year, coffee causes cancer.”
Prior to his speech at the NRCC, Trump spread false claims about windmills in Michigan last week.
“If Hillary got in … you’d be doing wind,” Trump said during a campaign speech, according to Vox. “Windmills. Weeeee. And if it doesn’t blow, you can forget about television for that night. ‘Darling, I want to watch television.’ ‘I’m sorry! The wind isn’t blowing.’ I know a lot about wind.”
Slamming Trump, Michael Mann, a professor of atmospheric science at Pennsylvania State University told Newsweek that the president’s comments represented “malicious ignorance.”
“The truth is that a combination of wind, solar and other renewables, along with battery and smart grid technology, can provide continuous and abundant electricity,” Mann said.
Trump’s disdain for windmills predates his time in office.
In 2012, he railed against offshore wind turbines near the Trump International Golf Links in Scotland, saying that they would ruin the views, according to Politico. Over the years, Trump has tweeted at least 60 times about the project.
He has also repeatedly contended that windmills are responsible for the deaths of many, many birds.
“They kill so many birds. You look underneath some of those windmills, it’s like a killing field,” he said in 2018 at a private fundraising event in New York, according to Newsweek.
Donald Trump Says Noise from Windmills 'Causes Cancer' — 'Idiotic,' GOP Senator Says
People
Maria Pasquini
PeopleApril 4, 2019
Donald Trump Says Noise from Windmills 'Causes Cancer' — 'Idiotic,' GOP Senator Says
President Donald Trump made a very bold — and very wrong — rebuke of wind power earlier this week.
During a fundraiser for the Republican National Congressional Committee on Tuesday, the president, a longtime skeptic of alternative energy, claimed that the noise produced by windmills “causes cancer.”
“If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75 percent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer,” he said.
Although there is no evidence to suggest a link between the noise generated from wind turbines and cancer, USA Today pointed out that some critics have linked wind farms to “annoyances that could disrupt sleep, induce headaches or even cause mild nausea.”
However, according to a 2014 report from the National Institutes of Health, researchers found “that when sited properly, wind turbines are not related to adverse health.”
The following day, Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley, a leading Republican and supporter of wind energy, spoke out against Trump, telling reporters the president’s comments “were, first of all, idiotic,” according to the Des Moines Register.
Although Grassley did criticize Trump, he went on to say he believed the president’s comments, which did elicit laughter from the crowd, were “tongue in cheek.”
Politico also reported that Grassley, who went through the 1970s energy crisis, said he’s “going to give some leeway when he criticizes alternative energy.”
“I’ve lived through it, he never has,” Grassley said.
Iowa is the leading producer of wind energy in the United States. According to the Iowa Environmental Council, it was the first state to generate more than 30 percent of its electricity through wind power.
When asked by reporters whether there was any truth to the president’s comments about wind turbines and cancer, White House Director of Strategic Communications Mercedes Schlapp said she didn’t “have an answer to that.”
Additionally, although Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds acknowledged how important wind farms have been to her state’s economy, she said it’s “not my place” to contradict the president.
“You know how those things change,” she said, according to the Register. “One year, coffee’s good for you. The next year, coffee causes cancer.”
Prior to his speech at the NRCC, Trump spread false claims about windmills in Michigan last week.
“If Hillary got in … you’d be doing wind,” Trump said during a campaign speech, according to Vox. “Windmills. Weeeee. And if it doesn’t blow, you can forget about television for that night. ‘Darling, I want to watch television.’ ‘I’m sorry! The wind isn’t blowing.’ I know a lot about wind.”
Slamming Trump, Michael Mann, a professor of atmospheric science at Pennsylvania State University told Newsweek that the president’s comments represented “malicious ignorance.”
“The truth is that a combination of wind, solar and other renewables, along with battery and smart grid technology, can provide continuous and abundant electricity,” Mann said.
Trump’s disdain for windmills predates his time in office.
In 2012, he railed against offshore wind turbines near the Trump International Golf Links in Scotland, saying that they would ruin the views, according to Politico. Over the years, Trump has tweeted at least 60 times about the project.
He has also repeatedly contended that windmills are responsible for the deaths of many, many birds.
“They kill so many birds. You look underneath some of those windmills, it’s like a killing field,” he said in 2018 at a private fundraising event in New York, according to Newsweek.
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Trump even suggested in a 2012 tweet that wind farms caused “the ‘programmatic’ killing of bald eagles.”
However, according to a 2009 study, wind farms don’t actually kill that many birds.
The author of the study estimated that while wind farms killed about 7,000 birds in the U.S. in 2006, nuclear plants killed approximately 327,000 and power plants utilizing fossil fuels were responsible for the deaths of about 15.5 million birds.
troubling for Trump than Barr indicated;
In other news Trump incorrectly states that his father was born in Germany.
His father was born in New York.
In other news psychiatrists indicate that Trump suffers from a dangerous mental illness.
Actually, most of us are sufferring because of his mental illness.
"What Youre Saying Is No Different Than What Obama Had Said Back Then"
"And That Was?"
"If You Like Your Doctor?"
"You Can Keep Your Doctor".......................
N - What Obama said was true for many (but not all).
What Trump states is simply untrue. Windmills have NEVER been linked to cause cancer.
His father was NEVER born in Germany.
So, it is not the same.
Regardless, this blog is not about Obama.
It is about the CURRENT situation of having THE worst president in US history - Trump.
And that’s a fine business model capitalism is a soft science. On average feelings are the decision-maker in people, markets are run by faith and belief what people want is not necessarily, or even very often, the ideal. Not to be patronising but the man of reason might want to think about the people around him.
And that’s a fine business model
It's a horrible one.
It is an issue...
There's a reason Californians call 'em 'Condor Cuisine Arts'
Is the cost in birds acceptable?
Could it reach a point where it would be unacceptable?
Could birds be deterred away from wind turbine sites?
Certainly the design could be improved to help prevent more birds from being killed.
Perhaps a wire mesh encasing the blade area, preventing birds from getting near the fan blades, as an example.
The REAL problem is that widespread use of wind turbines may reduce the Aerosol Masking Effect and destroy life on Earth.
McPherson's Paradox -
"Cutting off or reducing the source of the omnicide hastens the omnicide."
"These people calling for a cessation or reduction of industrial activity don't have a clue. They're trying to kill all life on Earth."
- Guy McPherson
SAVE THE PLANET!!! (For A Little Longer, Anyway.)
STOP THE GREEN NEW DEAL - N O W !!!
If we reduce the greenhouse gases, you're afraid that the global temperature will
drop too much due to the airborne particles ?
By the way, the one thing that isn't mentioned is the increase in clouds due to the increased global temperature causing higher humidity. That has a major effect on dimming along with the airborne contaminants.
The solution is reduction of BOTH the greenhouse gases AND the air pollution sequentially and in cycles. Certainly the answer is NOT to do nothing.
1) YOU'RE the one mocking the possibility that wind turbines could pose a cancer threat.
2) If wind turbines & other GND proposals significantly reduce global dimming we likely won't live long enough to die of cancer.
And cancer actually seems like a less unpleasant way to go.
1) YOU'RE the one mocking the possibility that wind turbines could pose a cancer threat.
2) If wind turbines & other GND proposals significantly reduce global dimming we likely won't live long enough to die of cancer.
So, you are afraid, that wind turbines would significantly decrease air pollution,
but NOT decrease greenhouse gases ?????
the tinfoil of his orange brain really came out in this one.What a moron president!
Jim,
Sorry for the
Hope all is well with you.
The estimates are much higher than the hundreds of millions of annual bird deaths previously attributed to cats. The study also says that from 6.9 billion to as many as 20.7 billion mammals — mainly mice, shrews, rabbits and voles — are killed by cats annually in the contiguous 48 states.
Chuck Raasch, USA TODAY
Compare those statistics to this:
"With more than 50,000 wind turbines in place across the U.S., wind power now accounts for 8 percent of the nation's energy-generating capacity — and experts predict that figure could rise to 20 percent by 2030.
But all that clean, renewable energy comes with a high cost to the nation's wildlife. Researchers estimate that 140,000 to 328,000 birds are killed every year in collisions with the turbines' spinning rotor blades and support towers. The risk to birds is highest at night, when the blades and towers are cloaked in darkness.
Now researchers at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York, have hit upon what could prove to be a simple way to protect birds from wind turbines. They've used the "signatures" of birds that are visible in raw weather radar data to generate bird maps and live migration forecasts designed to alert wind farm operators to the presence of birds at peak times."
So if you divide the worst case scenario of both causes 328,000/3,700,000,000 = .00886% of birds killed by cats are killed by wind turbines.
In other words Cats kill 1,128,049 more birds per years that do Wind Turbines.
O - actually that means, that feral (or pet cats who roam outside) kill over 1 million TIMES the number of birds than windmill turbines, not simply 1 million more.
Nonetheless, your point is well made.
I am in favor of reducing the bird kills for not only migrating birds, but for all, if possible.
A screen cage over the action area, or something similar, might help that situation.
I go walking around them quite a bit.
I did see a dead bird once, about 20 years ago, but no dead oranges.
I come up with more than ten thousand times, rather more than a million times.
Fracking is what will cause cancer, not only affecting birds, but other animals as well as humans, although unlike a canary in the mine warning of toxic environment, how many deaths will fracking cause..
Gasland
An exploration of the fracking petroleum extraction industry and the serious environmental consequences involved.
A prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a people who mean to be free.. -Thomas Jefferson