Who is God? Does God exists?

This is one concept many people don't want to talk about, because they claim it is Religion. Others don't want to, because it is controversial and do not want to be 'crucified'.

When one hears about God or is ask about the concept of God, the first thing that comes to mind is the Biblical God, as if the Bible is the 'only and true' authority about God. Even some of the atheists that I have spoken to who do not believe in God, believe that something is responsible for the creation of the world. Is that 'something' God?

So, who is God? Does God exist?

One may not agree with my opinion, but it is mine, just like every others that may comment on this blog. I will like it to be respected (same as others) and not rain the 'Armageddon' curse on any comments here.

Here is my view:

The concept of God is mostly seen from the Bible's perspective, which is a big error. The Bible is NOT a true account of creation or of God. Rather the Bible is nothing but a historical document of a tribe (the Hebrew). And the God in the Bible, is that created by the Hebrews to support their historical account. And the concept and rites were borrowed from the Egyptians. And most of the stories (Adam, Eve, the serpent and the apple, Noah's flood, the tower of Babel, All Egyptians first male sons being killed, etc) are just mythical. They are not true stories. The Biblical God is NOT the truine or true God. The believe in the Biblical God, to me, is responsible for all the current problems (hatred, revenge, etc) of the world today. The Biblical God is a Despotic, tyrannical, hateful, vengeful, jealous, never forgiving God, who must be appeased or whose anger must be curbed with costly sacrifices of the lives and blood of animals. Can one imagine the bleating and the pains of these creatures as they are roasted alive (whole burnt sacrifice) to appease an 'all powerful' and just God?

Or which righteous and sympathetic God will cause destruction of his creation (children) simply, because they disobeyed him. Will any parents do that?

Or which righteous and just God will order the killings of other tribes simply, because they are 'not his own'. 1st Samuel 15 (2-3) Thus says the Lord of hosts, "I will punish the Amalekites for what they did in opposing the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey." Now, imagine the women running away with their infants and being clubbed and speared to death on the orders of Biblical God. Today, we all cry for the head of a police commissioner if a policeman shoots and kills a victim running away. Yet this is a true God.

Believe me, if the Biblical God is alive today, he will be before the International Court of Justice for crimes against humanity.

This is not to say that the Bible is a complete trash. No. There are some writings in the Bible that society can benefit from. Books like Proverbs, Ecclesiates, and the mystical teachings of Jesus the Christ, are worth reading and very beneficial.

Does that mean there is no God? And does God exists?

There is God. The true God is the Creative Force or the Universal Breath that created the universe; the force that brought beings into existence. While the atheists may not believe in God, but by believing in something being responsible for creation, that something to me is God. This creative force is so powerful that it's vibrative protoplasts result in creation. It is the force existing in man that is referred to as the image of God.

Does God exist? Yes, in his vibrative force in us. Hence when Christ was asked about the Kingdom of God, he responded that the kingdom of God is in us. Luke 17 (21) "Neither shall they say, Lo here or lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is in you."

I like hear your comments.

Comments (48)

You wil probably get a mixture of YouTube videos 'proving' the existence of something that can't be proven, and the total opposite.

Me, I believe in people and nature, not a supernatural power living in heaven.

To me, heaven and hell are lived out here on earth, not in an afterlife.

Do i know for definite whether there is or isn't a supernatural god? No I don't. I can't. But I am not going to waste my life here and now on the hopes and fears of an afterlife. Life is here and now.
OIdblue
If you reverse your question and ask if DOG exists

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The are as many different breeds of dog as there are different gods

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Which particular god are you meaning

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LuckyDuck2018
professor Spiritualist versus non-believer hey... I am not going there I am not those scary people wielding rulers those are Catholic nuns they should dishing out your punishment.

Here how I take if you pray non stop during mass and he hears you hey you know he freaking exists.

During Isis Rise I prayed to Jesus Christ and god told him that ISIS was killing our Christians out there and no one except few martyrs and his knights were doing something about it. He did go there and found them and probably saved them and I think he also questioned those people why did you kill my people is good sense of out senseless murder if you do not believe in his story.

why not use as reference? think maybe outside the box I think of that all the time. Maybe his teachings don't reach you, but think, kindness, love, compassion something we all must understand, God created man how hell did we get created...aliens? Maybe god is alien who knows.

Aliens see god as creator we should not doubt that. End of my feeling of matter. wave

If you think just book that guide don't burn it, use as it was intended and realize hey maybe we see him again. Or maybe he waiting until infanticide stops...and he come back again who knows.

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ekself
Think more and more people think like you do as we are past the stage of blind believe. Now we must just get rid of the name God as that name is tainted.
Hi WhyNot/Mr Houdini wave

I see you have finally grasped the nettle and have written about the touchy subject of religion - how brave of you! applause

Regarding the "Biblical God" - who is sometimes referred to as "All forgiving", and other times as being "harsh and vengeful" - would this not imply that there are TWO Gods? uh oh

I agree with your views about the bible being largely a historical document - and everything else you wrote in that paragraph.
It must also be remembered that, in territorial conflicts, it is the winner who writes history!wink

Now... to your question: Does God exist?
The bible version of "God" is clearly a human construct.
However, the universe, in its entirety, existed long before humans.
Therefore, there must have been a creation... by chance?... an architect?.... or creator? etc...
The answer, unfortunately, is blowing in the wind and will always remain unknown to us. confused

Everybody has their own ideas on this subject but often, in reality, their thoughts are the thoughts of others that they have received from their parents, their community or others.

How is it possible that one is born a catholic, moslem, jew etc??? confused
I also agree with Molly´s comment:
"Me, I believe in people and nature, not a supernatural power living in heaven".
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"To me, heaven and hell are lived out here on earth, not in an afterlife" .thumbs up
I also agree with Ekself. head banger
Old bluerolling on the floor laughing

I just think from beginning of time men needed something, so at first it was worship sun, rain, etc as this helped crop growth.

Then egos, bosses, leaders got in the way. JMO

Now whatever helps you through life peace applause
Elegsabiff
I wonder if you really want comments or just want to be agreed with? Well, I agree there are mysteries that science can't yet explain. I personally like to think there is a divinity that shapes our lives, and I don't love being told I'm gormless or moronic for holding a belief which works for me. Guess when we are dead we will either be saying 'told you so' to the unbelievers, or we'll just be dead. The way I see it, life is a gift and should be enjoyed as such. There may be a reckoning, so I have avoided giving in to the temptation to murder anyone really irritating grin

As to which divinity that is - I agree with Blue. You are talking about one religion, and not even the most popular one amongst the 7·point·something billion people alive dunno fair enough you say that is your view, but the biblical God is certainly not the first most people on this crowded planet would automatically think of. Religions were all designed to persuade the many to follow the revelations of the few and mostly tried to impose structure and order on anarchy. They all succeeded. Some do then take it much too far but that is a human choice, not a divine one.
BadlyDrawn
I agree about the Bible and the blatant hypocrisies therein. I don't necessarily see the birth of all that is presently known as the universe being brought into existence by a 'who'.

I suppose it's hard to imagine that the 'creator' could be anything but a omnipotent supreme being, but much of what we now know to be true was once unimaginable.

As beliefs go, I really don't have much use for them.
the god you're talking about is,

Jewish, Christian, Muslim, what a melee
WhyNotAgain4love
I thank everyone who shared their comments.

Elegsabiff wrote,"I wonder if you really want comments or just want to be agreed with?" Any one who writes to be agreed with is a moron and not an intelligent person. An intelligent person writes to be informed; gain from others responses. My writing about the subject is to hear and be 'informed' of the differing views, and maybe discuss further. For instance you wrote, "I personally like to think there is a divinity that shapes our lives..." Is this divinity call God? And in what ways does this divinity shape our lives? 'Our' here, I presume is every human. Does that include the evil doers? It will be interesting to hear further explanations on this.
WhyNotAgain4love
To me, heaven and hell are lived out here on earth, not in an afterlife. Mollybaby wrote. You are not alone on this. I ascribe to this. Hell (fire) and heaven are experienced in this life. I believe that our actions and the consequences of our bad actions represent heaven and hell. You mention, 'not in an afterlife.' Is there an afterlife? I like to hear your comment on this, if you don't mind.
WhyNotAgain4love
I mean to say, Mollybaby, what happens when we die? Is there no after life, like reincarnation?
Elegsabiff
The divinity is called Adonai Ahura Mazda The All Allah Bathala Brahman Cao Ðài El Elohim El Elyon El Shaddai God Great Spirit Haneullim Hu Hyang I Am that I Am Ik Onkar Ishvara Jah Khuda Ngai Olodumare The One Parvardigar Shangdi Svayam Bhagavan Tenri-O-no-Mikoto Tian Tianzhu Waheguru YHWH Jehovah Yahweh - take your pick and blame Wikipedia if I missed one, that was a copy-paste of all the larger religions. (I've just noticed they did miss Man Above)

I don't believe anyone is born evil just as I don't believe anyone is inherently stupid, supposed to be poor,or deserves to be enslaved. I don't think the beliefs we are raised on, which we either follow or reject, are automatically bad, either. They do get twisted by some extremists who would twist whatever religion they followed to approve of their own whackiness.

As adults, we should be free to choose, or change our minds, as often as seems right to us, without taking flak. We should respect the rights of others to their beliefs until and unless they try to force their beliefs on us. dunno

And that wraps it up for me, because any view on religion is going to offend others. You are an exception for wanting opinions, most people get quite agitated with those who don't agree with their view of the world.

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bloodyawfull
I'm God, but not that all mighty, though......like yours.
Your God is rich, and has more acres of paradise than me and dwells in eternity. It's good actually, because i'm sure i thick all his boxes and i'm a *must have* resident for his paradise.

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Whynot, a belief in the afterlife is just that, a belief.

A personal belief, although often influenced by religion.

It is a belief only, because nobody knows. Sure, you have the people who say they went into the light when they temporarily died, but we know the brain can cause this. It isn't necessarily heaven. Nobody ever says they went into the fiery pits of hell, it's always the light.

Anyway, as I say we just don't know. As for me, I will know when I get there like everybody else.
Is Hell A Real Place
WhyNotAgain4love
Hiya Daniela,

I wore my 'disappearing vest' when writing about it.laugh laugh It is a very touchy subject. But I am glad everyone aired their views. There has been no 'you will die in hell fire' at me.

Regarding your asking if the suppose 'all forgiving and sometimes vengeful' nature imply there are two Gods, I will say No. It shows how hypocritical and conflicting nature God is portrayed in the Bible. And I agree that the Bible version of God is a human construct to support the historical account of the Hebrew tribe.

You wrote; However, the universe, in its entirety, existed long before humans.
Therefore, there must have been a creation... by chance?... an architect?.... or creator? etc...
Does this mean that there is a creator? And this creator is God? The word God comes from a Sanskrit word 'responsible' or should I say, create. One tribe in my native land defines it as 'to bring forward.' Even a well known 19th century atheist, Charles Bradlaugh said, he refused to say "There is no God"....that he specifically disbelief in the Christian God.

"Everybody has their own ideas on this subject but often, in reality, their thoughts are the thoughts of others that they have received from their parents, their community or others.
How is it possible that one is born a catholic, moslem, jew etc??"
I may disagree with you on this, i.e. to some extent. Not everyone's thoughts are handed down to them. For instance, I grew up in a traditional African religion home. The concept of God is just like the Biblical God....that must be appeased. But I consider myself a heretic Catholic. While most 'thoughts' on religion may be handed down to them, there are still some 'dissidents'.
WhyNotAgain4love
I definitely agree with this, Elegsabiff "We should respect the rights of others to their beliefs until and unless they try to force their beliefs on us"
Oh, the list omitted, Oritse, Olorun, shineke, etc. I will be calling Wikipediarolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
WhyNotAgain4love
"As for me, I will know when I get there like everybody else." Don't forget Mollybabay to write me how it is there.laugh I appreciate your comment.
It will be a shining light of course angel innocent


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WhyNotAgain4love
Thanks Stringman for sharing the video link. In my write up, I mentioned that the Bible is just a historical account of a tribe. The link is only quoting or referring to what the Hebrews say hell is. I do not believe in the Bible. Not that I am saying that the Bible is a trash. There are books of interests in the Bible, like Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the mystical teachings of Christ Jesus in the new testament, etc that society can benefit from.
WhyNotAgain4love
"As beliefs go, I really don't have much use for them" Badlydrawn, does that mean you don't believe in anything?
We should at least believe in ourselves if nobody else! dunno
BadlyDrawn
I think that believing in something is different from having a set of beliefs.

I believe that I can ride a bike.

I believe that if I pray to a kelly-green umbrella while simultaneously wrapped in the skin of a Siberian hippopotamus and standing on my head, that I can go skydiving with a coffee filter.

dunno
You know you can ride a bike, not just believe it.

As for the other. .....laugh
BadlyDrawn
Well, I strongly believe that I can ride a bike based on evidence gained from experience and consistent results. I don't really know I can until I'm actually doing it.

One of these days, I'm going to wake up and go to set my foot on the ground to stand....and my whole world will be turned upside down.


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The world is a scary place.
The Amalekites, descendants of Amalek, were an ancient biblical nation living near the land of Canaan. They were the first nation to attack the Jewish people after the Exodus from Egypt, and they are seen as the archetypal enemy of the Jews. The nation of Amalek is long gone, but they live on as the internal enemies that we each battle on a daily basis.
itchywitch
Skipping through all the mumbo roll eyes

answer to your second question... yes he does wink
WhyNotAgain4love
@stringman wrote: "The Amalekites, descendants of Amalek, were an ancient biblical nation living near the land of Canaan. They were the first nation to attack the Jewish people after the Exodus from Egypt, and they are seen as the archetypal enemy of the Jews." Is that why God ordered Saul to wipe them out? If that is the case, why is he referred to as a forgiving and merciful God? I don't see any difference between him then, and those being prosecuted for war crimes and crimes against humanity. They are all 'wiping out their enemies.' But is that the right thing to do?
WhyNotAgain4love
@Badlydrawn. From your explanations on believe, can you explain what having a set of beliefs is?
Whynot, there is a huge difference between the old and new testament. It isn't like a sequel to a film.

The old testament was all about anger and retribution.

The new was about love and forgiveness.
BadlyDrawn
Ok let me try this again but with less cynicism. I might be more able to convey that which I don't believe in.

I don't believe that Muslims are any better or worse than christians.

I don't believe that Russia and Iran are enemies.

I don't believe that people who are liberal or conservative are meant to continuously bicker over who is right and who is wrong and even resort to violence against each other.

I don't believe the Jews have any more right to the land they call Israel than the Palestinian's do. I don't believe one so-called "holocaust" should be prioritized over another.

I don't believe that I am a good judge of right and wrong since I am cursed with self-interest.

I don't believe in isms.

I don't believe in climate change or global warming. The science is all I need to dispel beliefs either way. Evidence and the scientific method will mostly negate any need I might think I have for beliefs.

I don't believe in God(s). I don't believe that a supreme being would smile on one race and hate another. It's silly to me. I don't believe in manifest destiny.

I am a fan of Jesus but I don't believe he was divine.

I don't believe that the future is set and that it's within our collective power to change the course of human history and the state of the natural world, for better or for worse. I'm hoping for better.


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WhyNotAgain4love
"The old testament was all about anger and retribution.

The new was about love and forgiveness."
What you are saying @MollyBaby is that there are two Gods: an angry and revengeful God in the old testament and a new forgiving God in the new testament.
WhyNotAgain4love
@BadlyDrawn, By not believing in something, is that not having a set of Beliefs? I seem not to see any difference between believing in something and having a set of beliefs. But we all have different interpretations of things.
That is the way god was perceived at the time, yes.
Just as pagan gods were seen as having to be appeased by sacrifice.
Religions think they invented god, but they didn't. There was always the belief in the supernatural to explain away what could not be explained by the scientific knowledge of the time.
BadlyDrawn
Maybe it's simply perception, but I still think there's a difference between say believing in one's ability and believing in God(s). One is based more on experience and the other on faith.

I believe I can ride a bike because I've done it many times while I might have a belief in God and the afterlife because someone told me it was so.

You don't see a difference?
Elegsabiff
"There was always the belief in the supernatural to explain away what could not be explained by the scientific knowledge of the time."

Molly, check your scientists. There's still stuff they can't explain. I suspect there always will be. Most scientists have faith they will understand it all eventually and a few scientists just have faith. Or think, more accurately, that life isn't purest accident, I'm not saying they are fervent churchgoers. They do wriggle a bit when pompous atheists say 'everything' is explained by science. Erm, is that us? uhoh.

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