The Infant-in-chief rejects virtual debate

In an effort to prevent another Trump virus superspreading event,
the Election Commission announced, that the next presidential debate will be done virtually as a Zoom event.

In response Trump stamped his feet, held his breath, pooped his diaper and blurt out,
"no way". He said he would attend a rally that night instead, so he can better stroke his ego and spread the virus to the public.

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I've been wondering why they haven't conducted the debates (and the campaigning in general) by Zoom.

Given that none of them are self-isolating, Trump, Biden, Pence, or Harris, I can only assume they're prioritising winning over lives.
As usual, Trump is more concerned with stroking his ego, than the health of the American public. It will be one of many reasons, that he will lose to Biden.
It's not just Trump, Jim.

Biden was standing 2 meters away from Trump in the debate, both unmasked on the Tuesday.

Trump showed signs of being symptomatic before and during the Duluth rally the next day, Wednesday.

Trump quarantines pending test results, Thursday.

Early hours of the morning on Friday, test comes back positive.

Biden's tests come back negative on Friday and over the weekend, but he didn't quarantine for the potential incubation period.

Three days from known exposure isn't adequate for the rest of us. Why aren't they all quarantining for 14 days?
J - both Biden and Trump are being tested frequently. Much more frequently than most Americans.
So I guess, that unless a test comes back positive, they both ASSUME they are still negative as per their last test determined. Why Trump continues to not socially distance and wear a mask after a positive test is much more troubling.
I will also add, that 2 meters is slightly more than the recommended socially distanced gap (6 feet).
No need for The Don to mask Now - He's kicked covid's áss & he's got Antibodies.
He's Super & would likely qualify for an Immunity Passport - Look! Up In The Air! ... It's SUPER DON!! super
laugh

Yeah. I Know -
Further along in the article others question the validity of antibody immunity.
One can find an "authority" to prove, confirm, DEbunk or REbunk Anything.

There. I brought it up & acknowledged it - so it needn't be brought up ... Again.
grin

cowboy
You shout it out
But I can't hear a word you say
I'm talking loud not saying much
I'm criticized but all your bullets ricochet
You shoot me down, but I get up
I'm bulletproof nothing to lose
Fire away, fire away
Ricochet, you take your aim
Fire away, fire away
You shoot me down but I won't fall, I am titanium
You shoot me down but I won't fall
I am titanium, I am titanium, I am titanium, I am titanium Trump.

Thats super Trumpsuper
A virtual debate is ridiculous. Neither candidate was consulted - apparently. But I wouldn't be surprised if the debates commission did it on request from Team Biden. We've already seen the people they chose to moderate (including the next moderator who previously interned for Senator Biden). The fix is in with these crooks. Trump is right to not go along with the fiasco. The debate conditions and rules were agreed upon. Arbitrarily changing them like this is completely unacceptable. Debate in person as agreed (put Biden in a protective bubble for all I care) or take a long walk off a short pier.
Trump is running scared, what a fiasco, talk about throwing toys out of the pram rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing He knows he will lose a second debate so has a tantrum, there is no difference in debating being online or in person, with this virus everywhere it makes a heck of a lot of sense to carry out the debate virtually.
Debates are frequently carried out using skype or similar. Especially international ones where travel is not possible.
hmmm

Kinda begs the question how a ... Biologist ... overlooked the Antibody thing, eh? confused

Maybe Ignored it - To score cheap political points? ... dunno

cowboy
You call instituting safety measures in the middle of a pandemic when people from the White House are testing positive left, right and centre, arbitrary?

And maybe the consultation process should bypass the people who are acting recklessly, endangering others and can't debate without interrupting and talking over each other.

It seems like the grown ups are having to intervene, only it's like step-parents being left in charge and they can't actually confront, or discipline the children.
Yes it's arbitrary. Why did they allow the VP debate to go ahead as normal yesterday then today announce this for the main debate? It's complete nonsense. I strongly suspect Team Biden colluded with the 'Commission' to make this announcement. Biden got beat in the first debate, despite smarmy Chris Wallace's best attempts to help him. And God knows what drugs they had to pump into Joe just to get him through that first debate (Team Joe declined a pre-debate drug test, remember, unlike Team Trump).
Of course a virtual debate would help Biden. It would take away all Trump's power to control the debate by talking over Biden and the moderator and would mute his non-stop background chirping. Then his genius and super intelligence would be on full display.
The bit that's arbitrary is how important people don't have to abide by health and safety guidelines, but the rest of us do.

The second presidential debate isn't quite a full fortnight after Trump tested positive for covid, assuming when it was announced to the public coincided with the private knowledge. It's not arbitrary to protect other people from infection.

What is your concern about the debate being held via Zoom? Is there any way it could be worse than the first one? Are you worried that the candidates' magnetic personalities aren't going to come across?

Or are you worried that Trump's behaviour can be controlled if he doesn't abide by the rules?
So it should be..Because of Trump being a super spreader..Lying and hiding about he's results he has nobody to blame but himself.
Hilarious seeing as Trump was boasting this morning about all the drugs he has been taking. Trump should be isolated for 50 years in a secure environment, then we will know he cannot cause any more deaths.
Make fun of Riz all you like you deranged parasite..How about you make yourself useful bacon & go catch the virus.
How do you get from a regular spreader to a SUPER spreader? rolling on the floor laughing
I guess that will always be a mystery to you.
Facts seem to trigger your insanity... now that is hysterical. rolling on the floor laughing
I have great neighbors... why would I do that. laugh Control your anger and hate instead. cheers
Still missing the point. sigh
^^^^ ... scold

He's Had covid.
He's Over covid (or soon Will be).
He won't Spread covid.
He likely won't Get covid (for awhile at least) Because ...
He has "Immunity Passport" Antibodies (see above) that protect Against covid.
Let me put it another way ...

Having Had covid is like having been Vaccinated against covid.
Fact is -
Vaccination would prompt one's body to produce Antibodies - like Having covid.

If The Don is shown to have Antibodies to covid -
That's confirmation that he has at Least some degree of Immunity to covid -
He'd be Unable to Catch or Spread it, in the sense of being "Contagious".

That's Why some governments allow folks who've Recovered from covid & have Covid Antibodies to travel Through/Within their borders - i.e. "Immunity Passport".

Think Y'all! - This ain't Rocket Surgery!

cowboy
hmmm

IF ... a vaccine becomes available, and
IF ... taking it becomes Mandatory ...

Will folks skeptical of vaccines (Anti-Vaxers) intentionally contract Covid to obtain immunity and avoid vaccination? ... confused

I know. It's off topic. But it's a fascinating point to Ponder, no? ... dunno

cowboy
There seems to be some confusion. A person develops antibodies to Covid-19,
because they are infected with Covid-19. The antibodies tag the virus for destruction by killer T cells. There's a biological war happening within the person that takes time. However, it does not mean that the infected person is no longer capable of infecting another person. As long as there are virus in the person, infecting cells, they can still infect others. That's the key, not the antibodies themselves. Don't get me wrong, the antibodies are a step towards the eradication of the virus, but it does not necessarily mean the person is virus free.
Indeed, as an extreme example, imagine a person who does not have effective killer T cells.
That person may not effectively ever rid themselves of the virus.
In the best case with effective T cells, it's still a war within the body.
However, testing for the virus is how you determine if the war was won or not.
^^^^
Interesting Concept.

The Common Cold is caused by a type of Coronavirus - like Covid - and folks get colds Repeatedly.

One idea(!) similar to what's described above, is that folks Don't catch colds Repeatedly.
They catch One cold in their lifetime & it remains in them for the rest of their lives - "Repeated" colds are the original one becoming Reactivated - Flaring Up.

IF that idea's correct and Should covid - the Novel Coronavirus - behave similarly, it'll be here Forever & Everyone will eventually become infected - like Everyone gets Colds.

Everyone will have Covid Super Cold that'll will stay with 'em for Life - Reactivating from time to time - Until one of the reactivations is The Final Severe one ... violin

Long story short -
The Only way one will Avoid dying of covid is if one dies of something Else First.

Assuming that underlying "idea" is correct, of course.

wave Pleasant Dreams, Y'all!

cowboy
Something like that does happen with Chicken Pox.
The virus actually incorporates into one's DNA and can emerge later in life.

However, I am not saying Covid-19 is like that.
I am saying that antibodies are like a first step in the path to eradication of the virus.
The presence of antibodies does not necessarily imply that the virus has already been defeated yet. They signify that an immune response is current, not that it is necessarily complete.
Yes, antibodies remain in the system for a while after the virus is defeated, and more importantly, the reappear more quickly if the same person gets exposed again.

But again, having the antibodies is not the same as not being infected nor being capable of infecting someone else. Instead, tests for the virus itself better determine that possibility. The antibodies appear BEFORE the virus is defeated. They are an early PART of the war against the virus.
There's also another problem, many of the swab tests were false-positive any false-negative, and usually with no symptoms... so either the patient was a carrier or unaffected. By March 2021 if symptoms appear it may be from a worse strain as antibodies were not completely successful or the original virus reappeared. A few cases have reappeared ( small % ) and yet that is worrisome. The patients at the beginning of the pandemic did not have the drugs we have now and the antibody treatments we do have now are much better.
Edit:

"false-positive and"
Yes, both false positives and false negative testing can be problematic and another reason that testing needs to be done more than once to verify the determination.
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