Is this right?

I know relationships can be complicated. They can be complicated to the point where the individuals involved within them have their own unique set of rules they each have become to respect. With that said, I know the answer to certain questions may or may not be as simple as yes or no. There might actually be qualifiers/stipulations that come along with them. Really, it boils down to the individuals within the relationship on what they are willing to accept and not accept.

But....here is the question.

I have personally seen this and have heard it from many friends. I am not saying it is a common event, but I think it might be more common than one might think.

Is it right for a woman in a relationship to threaten her man with various forms of retribution if he decides to go out with his friends....or...even go visit his family. Now the family thing, I think might be a little more rare but the friends issue, I have heard on more than one occasion.

What I do hear a lot now days is....how men will proclaim, "I like my freedom."

Is this a man issue only or do women run into the same issues?
Do women feel the same about having their freedom?
Do you really lose your freedom when you meet the right person...meaning allowing you your boundaries and allowing your individuality?
Is it really fair for your spouse or significant other to throw threats out there...or is it time to move on?
Have we now become a new society when it comes to relationships?

Happy Saturday all.

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I also wonder if it mostly goes one way only or if it goes both ways.
And, cors its not right, should be a give and take, the well known negotiation thingy.

So what do you mean by: new society when it comes to relationships?
you mean men choosing to be single permanently or something?
Eh, well if he can't find a sweet seniorita then maybe just as well. dunno
Most guys don't think that way however as it's like giving up. It's silly too, men should man up.
That would depend on why one person wouldn't want the other to go out with their friends and what retribution is threatened.

Ultimatums are generally unhealthy, but I would have different feelings about a threat to leave if someone was going out with their friends to commit an armed robbery and a threat to take the children away if someone was meeting their friends for tea and scones.

Your question is too generic to express more than that.
You're never that free with a woman which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is a necessarily average thing. The neurosis of her indoors is neither sane nor insane, wild or imprisoned, woman has less to kill and die for and more religion, too. Decisively not the possibilities of this world.
I think the worst threats couple throw out in the relationships are the words I love you ...
unless of course its said throughout love making blushing wink
Mutual respect and shared interests...

I want my freedom with my man so we can 'do freedom together' cheers
These problems occur when there is no trust in a relationship.
Johnny,

I don't quite understand your question. Does this have anything to do with when that pretty lady took over your pool table game, and your friend got in the way, before you could get something going on with her? confused

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And you owe me a beer for that advice.
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Hey Grand...Yeah, I think it is like men giving up...but giving up and being okay with it. At least that is what I hear. But...maybe it does go two ways. Perhaps women are feeling they are okay giving up too, at least with the traditional way of doing things. Hence, the new society when coming to relationships. dunno Just a speculative thought here.
Hello CC, it almost seems that way...to some extent.dunno
CW, it makes me think about some love words I would like to speak to you. laugh
Hello Tea...what about freedom apart...allowing each to be their own individual?
LaF...that does make sense. How about insecurity? What do you think, are women, on average, more insecure than men?
Perhaps Robert. laugh
Patti. Who owes you the beer? I am thinking Robert because if seems like you answered his question about me. beer laugh
It goes both ways-

Women strongly dislike the idea their partner will be hanging around mates with no partner or responsibilities, and develop a taste for freedom.

Men strongly dislike the idea their partner will be hanging around a bitter man hater, who will try to spread hatred and mistrust.

Neither is particularly healthy.
I do contracting/renovations and I avoid doing work for man haters, it gets tiring putting liens on properties, because the job will never be done correctly in that owners biased mind! professor
"LaF...that does make sense. How about insecurity? What do you think, are women, on average, more insecure than men?"

No women are not more insecure than Men, but men are less forgiving.
there's a thing called a "kitchen pass".
men use the term as if they need permission to take a week to hunt or otherwise perform a stag event when the female can't wait for the man to leave/do guy things.
unfortunately, i never got a "man cave pass".
double standards
Johnny I stand by my reply to your various questions, and have not been swayed by others' perspectives of either gender, therefore..

You still owe me a beer for my advice. cheers
If I have more than one I might change my mind.
rolling on the floor laughing
laugh right now it is uncomplicated.
Merc...it is a bit of a rock and a hard place scenario....I think. Because if you do give in, you lose your "man card" in her eyes. But if you don't. uh oh I suppose anything may be possible.

I like your acceptance of offering space. I would think that would be a beautiful thing.....out all night with the guys...or with the girls if you are a woman....and your better half is home with smiles and hugs and kisses so eager to hear about your time out. hmmm


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Jac, I guess the man should just move when they are instructed to I suppose.

dunno


laugh ...maybe I am just being too funny here.

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Bentlee...I would have never guessed....that is some interesting data you provide from your own personal experiences. Something to consider I would suppose. No doubt, a biased mind could treat unfair.


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Vik....I am not sure I have tried that yet. laugh But, I will say....apologies are rare from my experience.


dunno


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Hmm LaF. less forgiving in what or which ways? It was always my impression...and from what I have heard....that women will not forget about things that have happens several years ago. dunno

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I have never heard of that before Crypt. Interesting. But you are right, I live in a very popular hunting area and there are a lot of groups of men that do visit the area during hunting. thumbs up

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laugh Patti....okay, short, sweet, and simple.....beer

But Robert might owe you one too though. laugh
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