The truth about what happened. It was NOT a "tour group".

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An ORDERED Stand Down (Reported in the NY Times) suggests a False Flag in order to push the Leftist Domestic Terror Narrative & Agenda ...
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cowboy
How big is a tour group normally?
Jac -

Not only are reservations needed 90 days in advance, but destruction and/or stealing of property is not allowed.
Nor is harming or killing others, obviously. The bottom line they were not a 'tour group', their intent included storming the capitol, do damage, interfere with the election process, steal items, take hostages, kill and create chaos. It was an insurrectionist mob, not a tour group.
Yeah, you have a lot of opinions. Unfortunately, very few are rooted in reality.
I remember your opinion that Trump was going to destroy Biden in the debates.
Biden had no chance. Trump was going to win in a landslide.
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@Jac. I wonder if the stupid defenses one see these days on the subject is designed to try ease a too harsh sentencing. You know, as a self defense strategy for court use only.
Only reason I can see. I don't even know how the cases are standing as of today, can't be bothered to follow all the drama. I know most is "for show", read political reasons.

Hi Jim. Tour group is just silly. But perhaps their best defense lol.
Ok Jac, an attempted coup. Hmm...who would be behind that?
Trump + a handfull qanons? What would be the chances of success from a scale of 1 to 100 you recon?
Would you give it 20? I would give it a -2.

If somebody tried to seize power by force that day (what a silly thought) they must have been pretty low iq'ed and badly organised. Trump knows way better, that goes without saying.
PS. I'm not saying I think imprisonment is functional, nor that US sentencing is reasonable.

If I had I my way, the insurrectionists would be doing community service, maybe one stint with people much worse off than them and one stint with people much better off than them, like being the Trump family's cleaner. grin
Trump knows way better, that goes without saying...?

Now that's a very interesting statement. laugh

I'd be very wary about making those claims about someone who demonstrates persnality disorder traits.

What Trump knows may be synonymous with what Trump believes and how Trump comes to believe probably doesn't operate in the same way as it does with you and I.
Raph, nice to see you but where do you get all these ideas from about russia?

Jac, I wish sooo much that you were the judge and jury when this
comes up in court...but you are unfortunately not.

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@Jac still, and I mean that seriously btw, not think it's mean sarcasticly here.
I meant it based on your community service comment.

See you

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That seems to be a fairly good description of the insurgents.
As far as Trump knowing better, not sure. He's about average or below average intelligence, which is a lot more than many of his supporters.
More likely, he didn't care. He got what he wanted out of it.
He motivated dimwits to delay the vote outcome and lots of other dimwits to send him money. If it mattered what happened to his insurrectionists, he would have pardoned them.
Jim, I hope you will reach your goals.

beer
Sorry Mic. That video did not play. Indeed, it required an account to see it.
Do you have a youtube video that does not require membership ?
@G cheers Russia has a troll factory of thousands of people in Leningrad. It was very well documented in 60 minutes as well as other News outlets. It wasn't formed to spread goodwill and prosperity to the United States. Russia has always studied and been a master of psychological warfare. As you must know the Nordic countries, especially Finland, are in real jeopardy of being next after Crimea.
Sure Raph. USA and Russia been on that spy game so many decades now that it almost become a culturel antique. Sylvester Stallone vs Dolph Lundgren hehe.

I'm less worried than you about the Russian Bear.
I also can not think of a much better leader than V.Putin as of today for that nation.
The next one will be different, but to the better or worse from a western perspective, is hard to say.
I know he/she will not be as respected in Russia as the previous leader.

Anyw, see you around. G'nite
So, the next Russian leader won't poison as many people ?
@Mic, can you do baby steps? grin
mic - That looked like no tour that I've ever been on.

You have to remember that a certain percentage (perhaps 35%) of the population were fooled by Trump.
This likely includes an approximately equal percentage of police.
It's more likely, that they weren't ordered to stand down, but rather a small percentage
were probably on the side of the insurgents. There should be consequences for aiding and abetting the insurgents.
The line in that video posted by you states;

It doesn't state anything about orders to stand down.
Mmkaay ...

If we Accept the Findings of the Inspector General -
That raises the Possibility of a Politically Motivated False Flag ...

Which raises the Possibility that Some?/Much?/Most? of the mayhem was instigated by Agents Provocateur as Part of the False Flag.

Capitol Police personnel May've feared they'd be found culpable -
The Chief of Capitol Police resigned & Two Officers took their own lives ...
Which was Also prob'ly deemed NOT Newsworthy ... playball

cowboy
@ 0:20 "DIRECTED pointing To NOT Use Their Most Potent Crowd Control Tactics." ... As had been done in Other situations when Large numbers of people may've been Expected to become Unruly.

cowboy
mic - That was not to use grenade style tazers. I can understand that.
They should have been able to hold the fort without those.
They had guns and were supposed to have shields.
But, were they ordered to do so, or is there a more likely situation, that those officers were part of the insurgence themselves ? If they were ordered, who ordered them certainly needs investigation. If they were not ordered and decided to do that themselves, then they should stand trial. As I already said, Trump fooled a significant part of the population with his lies, and that includes a significant percentage of the cops. If those police aided & abetted people storming the capitol, they should suffer the sentencing of those guilty of treason. Indeed, many of the insurgents were carrying flags, which were not the USA flag.
According to the NY Times article on the police report, it was the fault of Capitol Police leaders, who underestimated the insurgence;

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/capitol-riot-police-report.html
1) The Inspector General's Findings indicate it was More than individual rogue cops.
See comments above roll eyes
Given the level of Capitol Security on a Normal Day - The suggestion's kinda Ridiculous.

2)
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HOWEVER ...
As the Prime Suspects hold Majorities in Both Houses Of Congress -
That Ain't Likely ... moping

cowboy
Sooo ... The Options are ...
1) Incompetence on an Unimaginable Scale.

2) A False Flag to advance a Political Narrative & Agenda.

dunno

cowboy
idea

wave I Know!!
That'd be the Prime Suspects who hold Majorities in Both Houses Of Congress!!
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cowboy
Desperate conditions for the alt right and Leningrad troll factory are creating desperate posts!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
@G I would guess that the spy game and cold war underwent a reversal under Gorbachev. Under Putin, the x KGB assassin and leader, a new hat and new cold war arrived.
2015!!!!!wow uh oh


Some still believe the Chinese built those artificial Islands to build resorts!laugh laugh laugh
Good Ol' Ken - A veritable Ray of Sunshine dancing ... very happy

cowboy
All I can say is.....thumbs up up to Jim's post. There is video proof that certain Capitol Police didn't make an attempt to stop the mob.


"But, were they ordered to do so, or is there a more likely situation, that those officers were part of the insurgence themselves ? If they were ordered, who ordered them certainly needs investigation. If they were not ordered and decided to do that themselves, then they should stand trial. As I already said, Trump fooled a significant part of the population with his lies, and that includes a significant percentage of the cops. If those police aided & abetted people storming the capitol, they should suffer the sentencing of those guilty of treason. Indeed, many of the insurgents were carrying flags, which were not the USA flag."
When something don't make sense there is a reason why.
From my own experience in life it often mean that somebody is lying.
In this case a whole lot of Congressmen ARE lying in not calling it what it was, an insurgency motivated by a corrupt someone fearful of losing power, because he knew it was what was keeping him from experiencing justice, and it was what was giving him a surplus of campaign funds. However, the coup did not work. He lost power and protection from justice. Justice will be served.
1) T was not in it for the power, nor the money.
Fame and admiration maybe, as any career oriented person would, but mostly to serve the people of the USA who like him were fed up with politicians promising to later "forget".
The job he did exceeded what anybody could expect, a wonderful job for America was what he managed.

2) You can forget about that so called justice of yours regarding Trump. He will go clear a 100%.
I'm more worried about the ones you call the insurgents, who on reality was a mix of blm/antifa in disguise placed there to fool in the most eager quanons that took the bait.
First mentioned group go clear naturally (shoved out the backdoor) but the quanons will face harsh sentences I'm afraid. How harsh? As bad as it can get without provoking a real riot.
Dear Ozzy, you are not so sharp. laugh

Trump was in it for the fame, adoration, power and money. It was all abut the Trump brand and self-affirmation. That's the way it is with somene who is persnality disordered as he is.

He couldn't possibly have been in it for the American people because he is unable to emotionally empathise with others. That is clear from his behaviour when he's not reading from a script. His astonishment at Prince Charles being involved in charity work is just one example of that.

He does have some level of cognitive empathy, however, which he uses to manipulate the greedy and intelligent, or the poor and ill-educated. He does that rather too well.
Lol, pun taken.

Jac, tell me have you seen any of his arena speaches?
He's very good at entertaining a certain demographic. He's had plenty of instruction and practice doing popular TV entertainment.

The same skills he uses with studio audiences, he uses to rabble rouse.

He's skilled at securing votes, but that doesn't mean he's presidential material. They are very different kinds of leadership.

He demonstrates a lot of traits of dangerousness, wherever he speaks.
Your heart is big. Aaaand I understand Kaybee.
Btw, do you agree she gets prettier by the year?

N.y.Way's, I'm off

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