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How Afghanistan Became A Failed State

When The Chess Game Ends, The King And The Pawns Go Into The Same Box ...

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Who needs the Stares when you can have China..
From Swamie's post
I don't what they say about Osama bin Laden, Osama bin Laden provided finances and Clinton fired ballistic missiles at his camels, yeah, you ask Monica she'll spit out his c*m and tell yeah...
Load of bullshit,
al Qaeda was a militant Islamist network, whose name is Arabic for “the Base,” date back to the late 1970s and the Soviet Union’s invasion of Afghanistan. Osama bin Laden was born on 10 March 1957 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia so he was 12 or thirteen years old when al Qaeda was funded by the terrorist group called the United States of America its FBI, & CIA most certainly provided al Qaeda with support..

On 8 June 1998, Usama Bin Laden was indicted (under seal) on charges of ‘conspiracy to attack defense utilities of the United States’. in a United States District Court, S.D. New York.
On 8 June 1998, Usama Bin Laden was indicted (under seal) on charges of ‘conspiracy to attack defense utilities of the United States’. In addition, the allegations stated that bin Laden was the head of the terrorist organisation called al-Qaeda, and that he was a major financial backer of Islamic fighters worldwide.

On 4 November 1998, Usama bin Laden was indicted by a Federal Grand Jury in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York, on charges of conspiracy to murder of US nationals anywhere in the world including in the United States, US military personnel in Somalia and the Saudi Arabia Peninsula, US nationals serving in the Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and in the concealment of al-Qaeda activities. The evidence against bin Laden included courtroom testimony by former al-Qaeda members and satellite phone records, from a phone purchased for him by al-Qaeda procurement agent Ziyad Khaleel in the United States, Osama bin Laden mainly provided finances.

I don't believe the story Obama and Hillary Clinton proposed occurred alleging two Blackhawk Helicopter flew two teams of Seals and a dog from Afghanistan across Pakistan and then murdered Osama bin Laden with a single shot to his head and flew his body, plus x2 aircrew, x2 seal teams and a dog back across Pakistan to Afghanistan so Osama bin Laden body could be flown to a Navy ship then tossed into the ocean, that just pure crap. Utter rubbish, any long time members of these forums who followed those events at the time it was being alleged (can be found in this sites archives) know full well that Obama changed his bullshit story at least three times as folks drove Mac trucks through the utter bullshit Obama spewed out at the time it was allegedly occurring and being broadcast in real time describing alleged event as broadcast proposed was unfolding.
Both Rumsfeld and Franks like Biden fall of it !!
The Afghan model constructed by Rumsfeld and Franks in response to the attacks on September 11 stood the Powell doctrine on its head. The new template was designed to deliver a swift and economical knockout blow through airpower and the limited application of troops on the ground. Instead of overwhelming force, the Afghan model depended on airpower and on highly mobile special operations forces and CIA paramilitary teams, working in concert with opposition warlords and tribal leaders. It was designed as unconventional warfare led by indigenous forces, and Franks put a ceiling of 10,000 on the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Despite the valor of the limited American forces, the doctrine failed to achieve one of its most concrete political goals--eliminating the leadership of Al Qaeda and the Taliban. The result has turned out to be nothing close to decisive victory followed by quick withdrawal.
Assembling the size force required to apply overwhelming force across a country as large and rugged as Afghanistan would have taken many weeks. The only country in the region likely to provide the major bases required to prepare an invasion by tens of thousands of troops was Pakistan, and political sensitivities there would have made full cooperation both doubtful and risky for its leadership. The Pakistanis provided limited bases for U.S. operations in the early stages of planning and the invasion; the footprint was kept small to
avoid a public outcry. But soldiers and scholars alike have argued that there were sufficient troops available in
Afghanistan and nearby Uzbekistan to mount a genuine assault on Osama bin Laden's position at Tora Bora. And they could have been augmented within about a week by reinforcements from the Persian Gulf and the United States. bla bla bla
fast forward
Ironically, one of the guiding principles of the Afghan model was to avoid immersing the United States in a protracted insurgency by sending in too many troops and stirring up anti-American sentiment. In the end, the unwillingness to bend the operational plan to deploy the troops required to take advantage of solid intelligence and unique circumstances to kill or capture bin Laden paved the way for exactly what we had hoped to avoid--a protracted insurgency that has cost more lives than anyone estimates would have been lost in a full-
blown assault on Tora Bora. Further, the dangerous contagion of rising violence and instability in Afghanistan has spread to Pakistan, a nuclear-armed ally of the United States which is now wracked by deadly terrorist bombings as it conducts its own costly military campaign against a domestic, Taliban-related insurgency.
The Price of Failure
@ miclee... Thanks for posting that video link. Well worth watching!
My question is , What Is The Solution ?

I mean , everyone is just talking about what had happened in the past and what is happening right now...
Pointing towards the history and towards the mistakes that has all ready done ...
Unfortunately , what's done , is done , we can't change that... So grief and regret won't solve the problem that's all ready been created ...

But , I think , what we need most is , to find a solution , if not permanent , at least a longlasting one ...

So ... What Is The Solution ???
Bringing Allah to the wilderness. Whipping and bribing the bandits into a brutal patriarchy. That's progress in Afghanistan.
Or break it up. Afghanistan is not a country, it's an area of territory where little to no society has taken place. It's a country because the countries around it have borders. At least on paper they do.
I mean New York and the rust belt has nothing on the gap between Kabul and the rest of Afghanistan. And Kabul ain't no Singapore.
A solution has probably been on the table for ages, its quite simple Pakistan Clerics sent Taliban running into Afghanistan when the Afghan communist government collapsed, now Pakistan fully franked by the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and Chinese built Gwadar port will play a major role in the country's pursuit of its goal especially at the time its enhancing its trade ties with landlocked Taliban Afghanistan and other the Central Asian countries.
In the past a Afghanistan Oil Pipeline was a project proposed by several oil companies to transport oil from the Caspian region and Central Asia through Afghanistan into Pakistan.

In the 1990s, the American Unocal Corporation, in addition to the Trans-Afghanistan Gas Pipeline, considered building a 1,600-kilometre-long (1,000 mi) 1,000,000 barrels per day (~5.0×107 t/a) oil pipeline to link Türkmenabat in Turkmenistan to the Pakistan's Arabian Sea coast. Through the Omsk (Russia) – Pavlodar (Kasakhstan) – Shymkent – Türkmenabat pipeline, it would provide a possible alternative export route for regional oil production from the Caspian Sea. The pipeline was expected to cost US$2.5 billion. However, due to political and security instability at that time, the project was dismissed. (bye bye uncle Sam)

In 2011, the Afghan Ministry of Mines and Petroleum estimated that northern Afghanistan has about 1.95 billion barrels of undiscovered technically recoverable crude oil reserves and 16.2 trillion cubic feet of discovered natural gas reserves. Hello Pakistan & China ( the solution as arisen)

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