Creation or Evolution?

Well evolution, of course, let’s not be silly. But what about God? dunno

What did God evolve from? hmmm
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God evolved from sensitive creatures so as to be at peace with, for example, the loss of a limb. Like a dog would be basically fine with that. We evolved sensitivities long before the environment became easy and we stomached the difference through a god.
forty days and forty nights listening voices in de'headscold
So are you saying that God started off as a little light bulb moment in the imagination of early man to help him cope with losing an arm to a sabre toothed tiger or something? hmmm
And some still hear the voices to this day, rob.
The question assumes that there is a god or gods....
And what do you assume, tom?
The modern challenge to belief in a god is to question the necessity of losing a leg whilst inventing the prosthetic limb. Do we even need a painkiller when life could be painless and safe?

The answer to that is probably yes we do. Why? Because breaking a nail will come to feel like losing a limb. As soon as the first world becomes second nature the agony will return. The only lasting comfort is the one that can never be realised, never be experienced, never actually got, only the myth has lasting influence.
And for me personally my god is history. A type of mythology. If you need strength to take bad on you look back to where you came from. One must never give themselves completely to the second nature of the times.
@The modern challenge to belief in a god is to question the necessity of losing a leg whilst inventing the prosthetic limb?

Riddle me this Chez. If it's true that Jack and Jill fell down the mountain hill drinking billies still, where was the queen in all this convoluted commotion. Let me get this right, are you saying that the white man van man aka hardbottle was the gettaway driver?

I bloody knew it. White van man strikes again. What about the good ol' commer, some might say the kombi but nay I say.

21 questions and still no answers. I'm quite partial to those Neanderthals though.

Back in the day whilst getting the fire going with sticks and things, I discovered friction. A bit of how's your father and crumpet was a futuristic contemplation. No worries though because apparently, word on the street and rumours according to my next door neighbours reckon that a Mars Bar a day makes the plebs work and play.

Thank Bejesus for KFC and the secret recipe. I've walked myles/miles seeking redemption.
That depends upon what 'god' is.

You've capitalised it, so 'God' as a proper noun is a particular being, or thing.

Written as 'god', it's a noun, any class of people, places, or things.

I imagine there's a few answers to your question, but most importantly 'god' need not be related to a being, or organised religion.

Happen 'god' was embrionic science, the need to understand; happen it was the need to value and appreciate what resources surround us; happen 'god' is about survival which may include an element of emotional wellbeing.

Evolution from that, including mutation brings us to 'God' and organised religion, but it's not necessary to unquestioningly embrace the mutants to have a sense of 'god'.

I fail to see the issue with curiosity, appreciation and wellbeing.
""I fail to see the issue with curiosity, appreciation and wellbeing""

And yet, you probably believe in "man chests".

How many genders are there Jac? This could go either way but if you believe in science, appreciation, wellbeing etc etc. Do you think science is settled or only when it suits or narrative?

The "issue" was never an issue until certain wannabee victims started to whinge/whine and create division aka 'diversity' esp amongst the 'special' people.

Diversity........what an absolute FARCE. But you sound righteous though. Good for you my daffodil.

Jac thrives on hostility. Without it, she wouldn't have a counter argument and it makes her nonsense sound valid and perhaps logical or rational. It's not as if she'd virtual signal in Russia, Chyna or where ever.

Quite sad actually. It would be great if Jac actually had an opinion of her own. Unfortunately, she doesn't. She's toooo wrapped up in saying the "right" things to even contemplate.

Such is life scold
After careful consideration with questions and conundrums, apart from the obviouse, such as....why did the chicken cross the road. I've finally found the all telling answers that plague our sensibilities. I reckon we should all take a chill pill and find a 'safe space'.

I also reckon that instead of learning as Socrates questions......we should all go to University and instead of learning, we should be indoctrinated instead. There's no room for descent, decent or abseiling.

Truth is all we know. Let's tell a few porkies and teach untruths.......in the mean time, let's listen to the UN and Gretta the school flunky.

The world is getting more bizarre by the minute, nano second but just as long as I've paid enough tax to the UN.......things are looking grand, money for Jam
this link is a worthy read relates to the subject matter (reliable source) an explanation of : -
The Twelve Links of Interdependent Origination
To be honest, that's quite a hard question. I know that some people believe in God, and I can understand that. But would God actually let people ruin the planet the way humanity does it? I know that there are some organizations and eco-projects like greenpeace and myimpactpower, but obviously, that's not enough to fix everything that people have done. I think that if God existed, he wouldn't let this happen. Otherwise, he just looks at us upon the sky and doesn't care at all, and I can believe in that.
There may well be a God. I don't think it's likely, but whatever is the ultimate reality behind our existence and that of the Universe is bound to sound no less unlikely if it is ever revealed. But God, or a belief in God, isn't the problem. It is the people who say they know the nature of God, what God wants, and that they have the authority to speak on behalf of God that are the threat. Once you put your trust in such a person, they have control over you, and you end up following their will rather than God's.




A is for abiogenesis —
Scientists recreated classic origin-of-life experiment and made a new discovery
1952 Miller-Urey experiment showed organic molecules forming from inorganic precursors.

Jennifer Ouellette - Oct 28, 2021 6:59 pm UTC
That article was extremely interesting, Conrad, thank you.
I think Bod is right.
It's an accurate observation.
Here: they (SJW's) don't mind crushing their opponent.
You can see it in the language used.
The more crushing the better it is.
For 'the cause'.

What was it this time? To respect the atheists and their right not to have to deal with
even the concept of a fictional "God" alternatively "god".
She can hate me all she wants, but you deserve better Harb.
I wasn't angry.

I was just making a point of objection.
It's too late now, jac, I've already said you were, and I'm not prepared to back down on the issue.
I appreciate your saying that, Grand, but I probably didn't deserve better. sigh But thanks. handshake

I'm sure she won't hate you, btw.
I'm not that emotionally involved.

Having an interest in posts is not the same as being emotionally involved with the poster.
Yes, you're right, it isn't the same. Let's just put it down to experience and move on.
That seems like a fair compromise, Grand. thumbs up
Just a thought...

If evolution applies only to the physical being....as we are to understand with human evolution.

What if God is more an energy force and not a physical being...does evolution apply to that?

dunno
Just another thought...

I believe the principal behind evolution is that the environment shapes how evolution works. dunno For example, I heard that there were people (children in particular) that were discovered in a cave....I am not sure of the circumstance on how they got there...but it is my understanding they had been there for many years, if not most of their lives. When discovered, they had noticed their eyes and ears have become deformed.

Another example, when astronauts remain in orbit from some extended length of time, without proper exercise, they begin to loose their muscles and lose bone density.

So, if evolution is a product of environment....I wonder over the millions, if not billions of years that life has existed on this planet...why everything had not eventually evolved into the same being.

dunno
Interesting Johnny.
Deffo food for though there.

Is supposesd to be more between..


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Thanks, Johnny, but I'm not sure I can eat all that.
Because species evolve to exploit a niche. The environment is not universal on Earth.
It's not even universal in the same forest. Plus, the environment changes over time.
In addition there is genetic diversity not limited to differences between species, but even within the same species.
Thanks, Jim, or can I call you Jersey Boy? giggle

I was just about to say all that liar , but you've saved me the bother. thumbs up smile
I'm sorry, bob, but we ain't got time to wait for entropy.
Scientiferous things happen despite you & your delusion..
..who came first ? / Townsend
Everywhere @ Once / Plimsouls
Y h w h. / U 2.
...A R ] who'll stop the Rain ? / CCR.
Do you write like that to irritate people, bob, or is it an unintended consequence? confused
Many of them are obcessed with America, throughout my time in Vietnam, Americans constantly asked please sir do you speak English while I had New Zealand Army tabs on each shoulder.
Sadly many Americans only learn about America during there days at school/collage its really incredible and sad they are so ill equipped and so intervened. Many have of course traveled are aware there are people outside the racialist reservation home of self-righteous dogmatism and mass murderwave
But surely, rob, the nutty right wing fanatics on this site aren't representitive of the typical American. It can't be so, please say it ain't so. uh oh
there are lots of Americans who know we speak English, all Americans who traveled outside the states are of course exempt. Otherwise I find it very difficult to accommodate your suggestion, sorry, please look around.
Take Boris he must surely give cause for concern in the UK, he is an x Catholic turned Anglican, an x American who is definitely representative of the typical Americans we meet, but alas he is probably x CS toconversing
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