The New Dating World.

Listening to Jordan Peterson, with our modern dating world....where long term relationships are becoming a thing of the past, Peterson theorizes that only a small portion of men will get all of the women. To find out more about this, first think about it...and then...I encourage you to listen to him.

Here is an example of his theory in practice.

I was just listening to Lauren Chen. She had a blog about "West Elm Caleb"....a guy who has dated many many women and who have ghosted them. Chen goes on to show women who have been ghosted by him being upset. However, she points out in her opinion, this is a result of feminism. Lauren Chen claims that this is exactly what women have asked for. Towards the end of her blog...she states that feminism is not....men should do exactly what women say. She says that before feminism, men had a deeper respect for women....now....it is a bit different.

What should men do now?

What should women do now?


Peterson says that female desired men are becoming more callous. He goes on for saying...I don't blame them. (remember people form their self image and moral compass by feedback received). He alluded that, why should these men settle for just one woman, when they can have all of them. (This was my interpretation of his message).

For women, perhaps be more careful with who you pick for a partner, or as Chen suggested....state up front that you are looking for an exclusive relationship...and not sleep with him so soon.

dunno



Before we start picking on men....I suspect that same is true towards women as well....the beautiful women can have most of the men. However, I think men will settle for less than beautiful when it comes to a mate. But are women more superficial than men in this new dating world?

something to think about I suppose
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the number of women who dont want a long term or a serious relationship is rapidly increasings

i can only speculate about the reasons , I mean the real reasons not the BS - I want my freedom -
Now i've been thinking by any chance good chunk of the women is becoming shallow?

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The world, is more than just the west. Thankfully.
So if you wanna make sure you can still reach old fashion love,
you can travel some.
Cs is a good place to start actually.

I find Norway to be one of the worst in the class.
I think the females here still mainly want one
but, what is new is that he should "ideally" be well made for
showing off to friends, family and all your fb followers.

Basically he has to reflect good back on you and your own image
as a "successful modern woman".
That could mean proper love would easily be
exchanged for a 'trophy husband'.
If he is warm hearted or not is of less importance.
And if that is then case, than modern feminism has made it:
woman finally became just as bad as the men; looks first and foremost.
What that will lead to idk, and I don't plan to stick around to find out.
I'll get out of this small corner of the world, in time.

Finally a shout out to the lovey Melody from Venezuela here
who is a living example of the opposite of what this blog brings up as a scare.
What an amazing fantastic catch for the right person she is.
She is the embodyment of hope for us old-schoolers.
And there are others than just her but she came first to mind.

teddybear
old school is gradually vanishing on the horizon since appearing now days is more important than actually be urself...

Yep i was born in the possible wrongest century..

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fingers crossed a woman show up and say her opinion?

Hmmm i think i'll do a good thing to go and get some Limoncello...
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Yep a fresh just pulled out of the freezer Limoncello it actually does good...
wine
Yea, pour me one dudester!
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got 1 Lit new bottle awaiting for ya..
Mins is barely half way empty...
Long way to go....
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not sure Johnny, depends on many things really.
me, I like my freedom and simplicity of life right now, no stress , no complications, maybe one day I'll think about long term relationships too.sigh
Johnny, I have never wanted to be or have been part of a relationship that was not long term... And that is not going to change any time soon... I was raised in a family with traditional values and my parents were married for over 54 years, until my dad passed away... I can't be grateful enough for having been part of such a wonderful love story...
Regarding feminists, I prefer to keep my opinion to myself, but I think the saying: "Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it." applies to them...
I absolutely adore being part of a loving couple with all its "goods", "bads" and "in betweens"... bouquet hug
My sweetest Ozzie... I had already left for a few days, but someone messaged me to come read your comment... All I can say is that I am speechless... You have been absolutely and unbelievably adorable, nice, sweet with me from day one and I only have kind, loving, respectful words for you... Thank you, thank you, thank YOU; for being that perfect catch yourself, because what I have returned to you is exactly what I have gotten from you and that is just wonderful things... Please, never let any bad circumstances or experiences change you... Only for better... There is something that I certify every single day of my life: We receive or get back everything we send or put out there in the Universe... Everything... And again, I can only be grateful for the wonderful feedback I get every moment of my life, online and offline... hug bouquet teddybear Thank you, always... kiss
Hello Grand,

I do think there are some cultures out there that do still exist, like you say, that values traditional family structure.

It is said, that a rather unattractive guy is going to have it difficult on a dating site. Well...now dating sites are becoming an outdated form for meeting people with all these new forms of social media. But, I do agree with you too about the trophy husband concept. ....and, also about Melody.



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Johnny
In relation to your topic
I've come to think of the dating world, pre-pandemic, the words social distancing may have sounded counterproductive and even alienating. But now in the new normal, the rules of engagement have changed.

"With Covid times, doing virtual activities with friends, games, and stuff online is definitely a new way of doing things, and keeping people safe and socially distanced,

The online dating trend has picked up even more since the start of the pandemic, especially with a growing number of platforms helping people find their significant other.dunno wine

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Happy,

I think you are right about it spreading world wide.


Also, I don't think it is just isolated to women...I think men could easily fall into the same.


Perhaps it boils down to the human nature of greed? I think there are people out there that feel they deserve the best....and their interpretation of that best cannot be satisfied with just one thing....for both men and women. However, this might fit more with women, than men. The reason being....in traditional days and in most instances today....women are approached by men. So with that, women know more about their value to men than men know about theirs to women. But in today's world, women are now approaching men, and with that, men are now discovering their value to women....thus knowing that if they just settle for one, they are giving up the many others.

dunno
Ded,

I think that can explain much of it. At least, it does make sense. Interesting.
Ysa,

I agree with that. Not necessarily "dating sites" per se....but other means of becoming socially connected, as you say. It is too early to tell what this Covid pandemic has done to the mindsets of people. Like Dedo has said, perhaps the programs that people have watched have programmed them. laugh I think it is funny to say it like that...but true.

One thing I might speculate on with this pandemic, the isolation might have facilitated a lack of emoting with others. If one lacks that emotional connection with others, will they really care about the hurt they create?

dunno

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JS Western dating world is still the same. There are new dating rules: needs and wants, rights and wrongs,standarts ....
Dedo is right about Media being a powerful tool to change values and standards of human behavior.
Media gets more liberal than it should be. Totally opposite of Nature's Law.

As for SOME women to be superficial. There are enough different countries and cultures to find a not superficial one.

I found this quote. Before any man, who will want to reply on this quote. Do not do it right away.
Please, go have a cup of tea, coffee or beer and then reply.

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conversing
I just got an expresso and a shot of limoncello...
rolling on the floor laughing
does it count?
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About ur Quote i do agree totally with it....

Maybe that's the reason its so hard for me to find my other half?

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Fan....I agree with most of everything you have responded with. thumbs up The only part that I question a bit is about the soul mate tearing you apart that makes you out of control. That part makes me wonder a bit.

Thanks for your words....greatly appreciate.

wave
One Fact Remains...

People on each of us lives come and go,some of those go faster than other....

Certainly now days and over the net people believe that honesty and earning someone trust with honesty its just useless...

Speaking for my experience....

wine
Good time of day Johnny!
I was trying to find an author of this quote. To know if it is a man or a woman( important). Unfortunately I couldn't.
This part got me curious as well. Sounds harsh! After some time of pondering on a meaning, I came to a conclusions JMO:
There are two the worst things in life: to wait for something or someone and to cutch someone or something. We can't control it, But it can change our life.
Or ...if we have to make a decision to change something in us which we thought will never change. It goes both ways.
I do believe everyone translate ..." soul mate tearing you apart that makes you out of control that you have to transform your life...." differently.
I hope your day is goes well and keeps you busy!
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Buonjiorno felice!
Not all of them, do believe that honesty and trust are useless.
As you said, the best way to know people is, to communicate with them in blogs and on Forums.
Just keep a cool head and pay attention.
Everything will be fine.wine
Trusting isn't always possible, or appropriate, but anything other than honesty is useless and pointless.
As for women on dating sites well one more confirmation of my thoughts most women are what they are honesty only on convenience..
Saying up from that i deleted parts of the message coz persona!!!

Quote: | 2 hrs ago

Hello,

I totally get what you say and I have given you my answer. I just want to chat here. I have sieved through the chats that have come through and seem to chat with you, a guy in Australia, in Ireland and in Belgium.

That confirms too that on a dating site there are women that have a man but looking for something else either pen pal friendship of some kind..

Though i stated clearly to her i wasn't looking for a friend and i was looking only for my other half...

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Not that this is necessarily pleasant for women. Running at the woman with your trousers down. But that is the tone-setter. Women make a better first impression whilst men are in that window that encourages letting himself down. Dating and shortterm relationships make men weaker and women stronger not to say that women are necessarily happy to have won him at hello.
“Finally a shout out to the lovey Melody from Venezuela here
who is a living example of the opposite of what this blog brings up as a scare.
What an amazing fantastic catch for the right person she is.
She is the embodyment of hope for us old-schoolers.”

Why you think Melody or any other lady say from Asian, South America, Africa is interested in men from Norway, Australia, Europe, USA, Canada, etc??? Are you sure they will be obedient wives after you marry them and drag to your country???
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Am I the only one who thought that those two are related? hmmm dunno
Does it take a Ph.D.?
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Or some half way working brain?
wine
Melody best of luck to u...
I'm here for the same reason u r,except i'd like to move in a warmer place that isn't italy coz i no longer feel italian at all..

wine
In my opinion and taking for example FB..
Hell i've spoke with few persons that based on what these persons said they had something between 500 and 2000 friends...
I'm adding fake friends coz in a life time u will never get to know a person well enough that u can actually call that person friend,"fake".
Let alone and impossible to do in 1 lifetime 2000...
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Engaging in multiple relationships its not different from FB..

At least from my point of view and what i am seeking.

But than comes to play modern human kind where the more u are popular the coolest u r,which for me is a worthless person coz that person has no value once o'ever,while me i still believe in some values at least the one in a relationship.

Not wise,not wise a.s.s. just realistic...
wine

there it is i said it...
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Must say i feel much better now..
Thank you Fan for your breakdown.

I guess when you include somebody into your life...technically it is no longer your life alone. It becomes a partnership of give and take. So in that sense, it could tear you apart and force you to rebuild on a different mental/physical level.

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laugh Ded
Happy,

Regarding FB and those high number of friends....I have thought of that too. Friendships require time to develop, foster, and maintain. One would have to be quite busy with all those friends.

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Friendship much like a relationship has to be fueled every day otherwise just like a car will stop at any moment if never refueled...

I have no clue how a woman or a man can keep up 2 or more relationships,i have no idea how a person can in the facts keep alive plenty of friendship,though i presume that few of these friendship are real and the rest is fake.

As for relationship "at least at first getting to know each other" stating if the person i am talking with really attract my attention, i am not sure how many getting to know each other can keep up with..
Perhaps my limitation or perhaps i am aware that the person i am talking to has earned my full attention..
Seriously i do not have time to keep more than one conversation at times coz i give my full attention to the person i am talking with if i am really interested on getting to know her..

The rest for me its just fake,coz yes i can split my attention talking with someone and doing something with my hands but not split my attention coz i am talking with 2 women,for me its very hard that a woman gets my attention....Unless she is open on talking just about anything and not holding back like most do coz perhaps i am not of actual interest..
wine
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