DEATH, PENAL COLONY OR PRISON LIFE

What's the best method of treating convicted murderers? Should they be given life in prison, or sent away to a penal colony for hard labor, or maybe a life sentence in traditional prison. Maybe it depends on the particular case in question. If the circumstances were unclear as to the intention, but a life was taken and found guilty, perhaps prison only. Murder of a child, perhaps death penalty. Murder of anyone, which sentence and does it matter? Or maybe the death sentence should never be used as the taking of life as a punishment is behaving like the criminal.
Which punishment would make the best deterrent to crime?
What form of death should be used? Hanging, electrocution, drugs?
What about sending person to a penal colony away from normal civilisation?
Can you ever be sure of the guilty verdict?

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LJ..... Yes I know it's difficult topic but one that needs attention. Do any of the punishments act as a deterrent? Maybe if severe enough it may cause someone to think twice before committing a serious act. But would it? Are they so mentally deranged that it makes no difference. Does that person need psychological treatment to change their behaviour in addition to being locked away? Or just lock them up for good. Do they deserve the death penalty and should that even be considered in these times?
my thinking is, laws are created for the purpose of maintaining order. Killing is the highest crime there is. If we allow it to happen with no repercussions, I'm sure as hell, these criminals will do it again and again like Killing chickens.

With mental disorders, I am not going to condone it as an excuse.
LJ............Won't that decision conflict with any religious belief you may have? Thou shall not kill.
LJ ...... But you wouldn't be killing to protect yourself. It would be a planned killing of a defenceless person who was tied up.
professor
That's brutal. No I wouldn't ever want anybody be murdered, killed just because someone can.
LJ.....You said the law of the land is mandatory. If the law is the death penalty eg Texas, then you would be supporting the killing of a strapped down individual. Make up your mind please.
professor
Crown, yes, I wouldn't hesitate to collect justice for a crime one has committed. I'd kill that criminal and I wouldn't change my position. Religious or not, it doesn't precede justice to be applied. I'm clear, I favor capital punishment as meted by the law. I respect himan laws. I will not hesitate to kill Scott Peterson ir Alan Davis for the brutalized murders they did.
if there is no doubt of guilt, they shouldn't be a burden on society. fully proven guilt should be removed in a most permanent manner. we're not talking about involuntary and such. i mean some one knowingly broke the law and killed some one in the process. it's quite costly to keep housing criminals. few to none ever actually rehabilitate. case by case may not be a good way to decide.

possibly even drunk drivers with habitual records of driving in such a state that have been in more than one related accident. years in prison might as well be a death sentence. better to remove the burden.

draw lines and uphold them. if the punishments fit the crimes, the idea of three hots and a cot might not ring so "comfortable" with many knowing they could have all of those "appeals" at tax payer expense. if it were more of a guaranteed punishment, it would likely have more impact on crimes committed.

the method used for carrying out the death penalty could be decided by the voters of each respective state. some already have more than one. the problem is that they aren't used as often as they might need to be for impact.
Ii have the same thinking D. No doubt. Proven beyond any reasonable doubt. They mustn't be kept wasting our tax money. Maximum Security prison costs California tax payers at least 200 grand a year to keep the likes of Scott Peterson, convicted about 28 years ago and the same thing with Alan Davis.
Google Scott Peterson killer of Laci and Richard Allen Davis, killer of Polly Hannah Klaas.
Brutalized and gruesome murders.
I'd give them the lethal injection as soon as convicted. These two have cost esch year 200 grand and still incarcerated.
You can't always be sure of a guilty verdict but it's probably somewhat more reliable than a confession. Although you have to judge each case on its merits to
ascertain how likely a false confession is, a false confession or a show trial. Think of the post office masters how the state treated them. Rather than blame the software or the system that was guilty they'd rather believe, against every shred of common sense, intelligence, honour and integrity - that an entire generation of post office managers had spontaneously become thieves. They sent one innocent person after another to prison so as to protect the new software they'd just updated the system with. Every one of them knew they were sending innocent people to jail but they're psychopaths running the justice system - that's not an opinion, it's a scientific fact.

As for punishment being a deterrent it doesn't really work that well. Catching those who are actually guilty is the deterrent, doing your best to limit the numbers of psychopaths who so naturally want to become a police officer or a judge is the deterrent.
Ovs, it does to me.
There have been a number of convicted child murderers in UK who are being considered for release. These include cases where a person has killed more than one young person. They are considered to be no longer a threat to the public. How can this be? Is it possible to change a person's murderous behaviour? Should they ever have the opportunity of redemption? Surely they should never have freedom again.
And for a similar reason I reject convict labour. It's not the law nor society's business to make a profit off the back of crime. You can't have an ulterior motive, a profit motive in giving any one verdict over the other. No verdict is safe unless you are independent of the outcome

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