Do you remember the mask haters? Have you ever seen one say 'perhaps I was wrong'?

I used to question the worth of wearing the anti-pollution masks in Beijing, and they were a common phenomenon in China 10 years or more ago. Things have changed, haven't they? In early 2020 there were abusers who would rant at and even attack mask-wearers. Blogs were infested with anti-mask wearers.
As I asked above - have you ever seen one say maybe I was wrong?

So too the stolen electioneer-ers - loud and barking mad. Will you ever see them admit it was just nonsense? Some will finally go silent, some never will, and few indeed will say, shamefacedly, well yes, it was all nonsense indeed.
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There is enough evidence to warrant investigation into election fraud . The AG's of 18 states would know alot more about it than you . And as for masks , have you ever heard about personal choice ? it's when a person can choose to wear a mask or not , different than being forced to wear one .
Do you wear a seat-belt when driving, or exert personal choice? Do you smoke in public buildings or express personal choice? Do you spit in the street - I remember days when there were street signs saying 'no spitting' - so much for personal choice. Swear or drink in public? What you do at home is your business. Try thinking below the surface.
And as for 'enough evidence' none of the courts or prosecutors think so. Speculation and wishful thinking do not amount to evidence, except for those perhaps who believe in things like the bible. Of course historically the Inquisition did not need such evidence but we have progressed just a little.
Spent too much time with communists? Well of my time in China, I never met one. You on the other hand, it would seem, have spent too much time with sheep.
30 federal judges threw your cases out of court and turned Trump into a public laughing stock.laugh

The so called "kraken" is trying to use insanity as her defense in court to save herself.laugh

Typhoid Mary types have no right to infect our food supply and spread disease. Even if its their personal choice.
Was meant to say:
"Fargo, I think you may be in danger of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
(not gonna explain what I mean)"
Eating dinner and writing at nce.
I was pro mask , pro vaccine and anti mandate .Mandates caused a political backlash that weakened the covid response in NZ . The op has no idea about personal liberty , keep the company of dogs and share their fleas .
There is no such election fraud. You keep proving that you have zero knowledge or understanding of the issue. You blather about "18 AGs" (don't use an apostrophe for the plural) as if it's your mantra.

Watch every minute of the hearings, with first-hand testimony from the people involved. They were there, and you were not. They are Republicans who initially supported Trump. They know Biden won and Trump lost. They observed Trump's numerous illegal attempts to overthrow Biden's legitimate win. They have a thorough understanding of the Constitution and of election law and you do not.

If you can refute the sworn testimony of Cippolone, B.Jay Pak, Rosen, Donaghue, Hershmann, Krebs, Quested, Barr, and all the other witnesses, then please do so.

Your mask viewpoint is similarly ignorant and similarly irrelevant.
We all know Trump won , even you .
I'll re-repeat terminally stupid or fundamentally dishonest......study large enough for you? peer review satisfactory? were the results statistically significant?

New study: Face mask usage correlates with higher death rates
Using data from 35 countries and 602 million people, peer-reviewed study confirms previous research and cautions use of face masks "may have harmful unintended consequences."


A new peer-reviewed study entitled: "Correlation Between Mask Compliance and COVID-19 Outcomes in Europe" has demonstrated that use of face masks, even widespread, did not correlate with better outcomes during the COVID epidemic, based on data from 35 European countries with populations of over one million people each, encompassing a total of 602 million people.

The study noted that the average proportion of mask usage in the period investigated (October 2020 until March 2021) was 60.9% ± 19.9%.

Governments and advisory bodies have recommended and often mandated the wearing of face masks in public spaces and in many areas mandates or recommendations remain in place, despite the fact, the study notes, that randomized controlled trials from prior to and during the epidemic have failed to show a benefit to the wearing of such masks with regard to COVID transmission.

"Positive correlation between mask usage and cases was not statistically significant," the study also found, "while the correlation between mask usage and deaths was positive and significant (rho = 0.351, p = 0.039)." That is to say, more mask usage correlated with a higher death rate.

The study used a variety of statistical methods to study correlation but "none of these tests provided negative correlations between mask usage and cases/deaths ... Surprisingly, weak positive correlations were observed when mask compliance was plotted against morbidity (cases/million) or mortality (deaths/million) in each country."

The study also noted that the public may have gained the impression that masks could be helpful due to the fact that mandates were usually implemented after the first peak of COVID cases had passed. However, it became evident that masks were not in fact helpful later that same year, when widespread mask usage does not appear to have mitigated the severity of the COVID wave of winter 2020.

"Moreover," the study concludes, "the moderate positive correlation between mask usage and deaths in Western Europe also suggests that the universal use of masks may have had harmful unintended consequences."
^^^^
SOMEthing appears to be causing deaths Worldwide to "Skyrocket" - +1,300/week in UK
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Might Excessive Masking be a Contributing Factor ... dunno

The OBVIOUS Suspect, of course, is "That What Must Not Be Named" - Big V ... wink

cowboy
@Fargo... Your comment, "Speculation and wishful thinking do not amount to evidence, except for those perhaps who believe in things like the Bible".

Would you like to elaborate on your comment? What you are saying, is that the Bible needs a Peer review and until that's done, it's just "speculation and wishful thinking". Have you not read the multitudes of peer reviews? Specifically of, The New Testament?

confused
@Fargo... Here's yet another comment of yours on an other blog. "There are demented deluded and obsessional people who believe a fairy story about a resurrection 2000 odd years ago".

confused
@starg what don't you understand? The bible IS a fairy story. The Greek myths carry equal weight for me. This is my view. There may be other values gleanable from the bible, but that is up to the reader and believer.
Not sure if this Dr was being disingenuous do to the channel he was sending out his podcasts or he really is clueless.

We've spoke of ADE from the very beginning (Antibody Dependent Enhancement). This occurs when the immune system starts to deteriorate. There were numbers battered about that said the vaxxed were losing 5% of their immune system monthly. Now, lets add wearing a mask, which decreases the immune system as well. We now have a double reason for the excess deaths.

Very disappointed in this Doctor. If you want to have a open and conversation look at the Doctor they have kicked off all of the MSM.....Vernon Coleman from the UK, he is insightful and brings 50 years experience to the situation......
Overall it would have been wiser to have made masks optional. We should prefer minimal law at the best of times and not even enforce rules when people don't know what they're doing which is our misfortune as a species that becomes more certain the less it knows.
He May've been AMBIGUOUS -
Intentionally Refraining from Naming "That What Must Not Be Named" (Big V wink ) to avoid having his channel cancelled by YouTube ... very mad

cowboy
Perhaps you severally mean 'due' rather than 'do' I cannot be sure.

@mic would you like to explain how your words are relevant to this thread?
Answer Myrta.

And give us your evidence.

Oh wait there isn't any.

You just need to believe in the crooked wanna-be orange Mussolini, who everybody knows lost.
Thats Dr Mussolini to you
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Happy to oblige, Hoss!!

1) the OP mentions MASKS
2) Seaworthy said MASKS may cause unintended health issues.
3) I said MASK health issues might be the cause of skyrocketing death rates (See vid)
4) Seaworthy suggested the doc in the vid should know it's Not MASKS - Likely "Big V" wink
5) I said the doc may've Avoided sayin' it was "Big V" wink to avoid gettin' his YouTube channel cancelled - Which is what caused me to link the skyrocketing death rates potentially to excessive use of MASKS.

Seeee ... batting

cowboy
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