Another Tesla nightmare...

This involves Tesla's operating in FSD (Full Self-Driving) mode and unexpectedly abruptly braking. This week, it caused an 8-car pileup on the San Francisco Bay Bridge.
Video shows the car entering the tube and stopping. I'm thinking it has to with loss of GPS signal, but some comments from Tesla test drivers have experienced the same problems on the open road.
This safety glitch could be serious.



Link to the pileup videos:


Link to the Yahoo story:
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I think after two jetliners went down (737 max) as the pilots had to literally fight a stubborn sensor,
and eventually lose to it, we should have learned.
But nope...
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I've watched the videos and I don't understand.

Although it's not ideal for a car to come to a stop like that, in the UK the fault is with the driver who goes into the back of another car.

I don't drive myself, but if the 9th, 10th, etc. cars can stop and not become a part of the pile-up, what happened with the 2nd-7th cars?

Maybe the video has been slowed for clarity, but is it possible that at least some of the 2nd-7th drivers were not paying as much attention as they should have?

Given the controversy about using language that implies assisted driving technology is synonymous with driverless technology it all seems a bit muddled to me. Cars suddenly coming to a stop is not a unique phenomenon, neither is a less than alert driver. We don't blame all cars of one type every time there is an accident and we don't assume fault without an investigation of what actually happened.

Is this really about reporting a glitch in the technology, or is there an element of knocking Elon Musk of his pedestal in the way this has been presented?
Yes...
I'm not sure of the liability when multiple cars are involved.
Let's say car #2 had sufficient distance to stop but car #3 plowed into him forcing him to hit car #1. How do you prove it?

The auto-pilot was in beta testing, maybe they need to go back to design for more evaluation. Musk had commented recently about the advances to his FSD.

Both...
Glitch and knocking Musk. There's some politics involved with it.
Based upon what I've been hearing and reading over the past few years, it seems as though those cars need reassessing and redesigning, when it comes to their special features/inner workings. Exploding engines, abrupt stops, defective auto-pilot mechanisms, etc should not be the failings of a vehicle that costs as much as they do and are supposed to be so 'smart'.

Just saying...
All the negativity could be one of the reasons why Tesla is lowering the price to most of their cars:

That's a copout, a way of maintaining profit whilst overlooking the car's inefficiencies. What? So, wouldn't the 'victims' still have to deal with the problems? They need to recall those that are defective and fix what's wrong before making and selling more. He could certainly afford to, then the better redesigned/remastered ones would actually be worth buying.
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The first electric-vehicle manufacturer to actively avoid like the plague in the new year is none other than the world's largest automaker by market cap, Tesla (TSLA -0.94%)."

Put your life in the hands of a computer if you want to, self driving cars are ridiculous..

Errol Musk broke the world record for most money lost in 1 year i think it was, he's having a bad run our mate Errol..
One problem is lazy people who are stupid and think auto is a dream. And over rely on it too. I see videos of cats riding around onto of Rumbas. Do the idiots not think of what that weight is doing to that robot? It is not designed to be ridden on. Yet they post those cute videos. Until the robot dies a miserable death.frustrated
Auto is assist. Not mommy taking care of me. Add to it people who go zombie when driving.
I watch the traffic cams on interstate. Watch as cars and trucks race past the camera so fast it is scary. Add flawed self driving cars and exploding batteries to the mix of failing brakes, bad tires, rusted A arms, disintegrating tires, falling cargo, flung rocks, animals, bicycles, pedestrians and no wonder the slaughter rate on highways equals a skirmish.
I have watched...standing along side my country road. I am back in the field a bit, not in the ditch. People drive by and never notice me. They stare ahead, never check around their car. No wonder they hit deer in broad daylight. I constantly check things when I drive. Ahead, sides, behind. And plan that that car will run his stop sign.scold
People who want self driving cars need to go catch a bus if they have no interest in driving, driving is an experience, joy and a learning curve for some people..
I catch a bus. laugh
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