If a tree falls in a forest...

We don't need to get philosophical about it. It makes a sound. It does. Do you need to see webcam video as proof? It makes a sound and that's my final answer!
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I know it's in the comedy section, but why?

By the way, you're wrong, it doesn't make noise.

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"That's my final answer."

Sure you don't want to phone a friend???

Never mind though, as long as the recorder is running there will be sound.

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I'm just laughing because it's comedy, ok.
Laughter the best medicine thumbs up laugh
You got that right. A good and Silent night to y'all. laugh
Who was arguing with you? dunno
This guy:
I'm unable to follow his logic.


That's witch-hunt!
I'm deaf.

Is it logical to play me a sound recording to prove the tree makes a sound when it falls?

Are you experiencing a blind spot trying to convince me that I can hear the sound for myself?

Is it my fault that I can't hear, or your fault that you can't think of a way to prove to me that that the tree made a noise when it fell?

What do you need to do to convince me?
confused Just trying to figure the plonk from the plank hmmm

But since we're talking about them nerd

Do you know every time a tree falls down, we have one less in the world.. FACT professor
If you are inside a car and someone slams the door, do you feel the air pressure it creates?
When a tall tree falls, the air around it is displaced and it makes a sound as it hits the ground. Also... you can feel the earth move under your feet. A good word to describe this is thud.

With technology, there are sound pressure meters that register (in decibels) how loud a sound is. If you have a cellphone, activate the voice recorder application and speak into the microphone. There is a visualization of the recorded sound. Faint sounds only move a little and louder sounds the graph.

The image below shows both frequency with low notes at the left side and loudness where the taller bars are louder.

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If you've been in a venue where they play loud music, you can feel the pulsations from the music. The bass having the most affect.
Sadly, yes...
I've seen videos where huge machines cut and strip tall pine trees in logging operations. The world needs a constant supply of lumber.
I have not had training, so I find the above rather interesting.

When I first had access to a hearing aid, I kept getting vivid flashbacks to my childhood just from hearing rain on an umbrella, or paper scrunching. It was delightful, but noise messed with my tinnitus and my usual positive mental attitude towards it.

My guess is that I've been losing my hearing very gradually for most of my life, so I've just adapted. If I'm crossing the road and my sinuses start feeling like a swarm of tiny bees have been let loose in them, my head starts whipping round to find the car that's appeared out of nowhere. Seeing graphs of my hearing and having a hearing aid to play with have allowed me to understand my hearing and become aware of my coping strategies.

My hearing is different in each ear, so my biggest problem is never having adapted to where sound is coming from and being able to identify sounds. Is my neighbour in the flat below me doing some kind of DIY on their ceiling, or is someone from the flat next door walking around in their attic? It turns out, so another neighbour told me, Jackdaws like nesting in my attic. Three years of confusion sound laid to rest. laugh
@jac do you know of Evelyn Glennie - a famous percussionist? She is profoundly deaf but feels sound through her feet and the hairs on her arms - listen to a youtube of hers ... here is her TED talk.
A funny event today at the pharmacy, they were offering free hearing tests. I guessed these would be less than professional but shrugged and accepted. I have had the full hearing tested twice in recent years, know that it is gradually decreasing, and that the tinnitus is worse and worse.
So, in the noisy pharmacy she gave me a simple test, but I could see what both her right and left hand were doing on the buzzers, so I could scarcely stop myself from laughing - I told her she should at least shield her hands from view, and tried to avert my eyes, but still hard not to giggle. Of course they were touting for business by offering free tests in a pharmacy... In the high frequencies my hearing is distinctly sub-optimal, but I still speak with headphones online 5 hours a day.
Thank you for that, Fargo. It was exceptional both in terms of what I could hear and the analogy for a wider perspective on, well, everything.

I sobbed fairly uncontrollably through the middle 15 minutes because it was such a profound communication experience.

Thank you.
@jac Glennie is truly remarkable
oh @jac well that does indeed put a new perspective on things we write here. So often squabbling, but rarely, ever so rarely useful.
and @jac have you ever listened to the theremin?
Another TED talk I sometimes use with my students along with the Glennie talk. My daughter, as it happens plays theremin too, a weird instrument where body movement, apart from hands, is out of the question.

It only makes a sound if you YOU hear it grin
I haven't see it so far, but the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) in America now allows hearing aids to be sold without a prescription. This would give rise to testing centers or kiosks in the shopping mall selling them now.

I'd have to look up an old blog where I mentioned it. jac had made some comments there.
Just thought this is fitting...a song for you...

I assumed it would be heard
quite agree with that jac. sometimes we know our own body and act accordingly, all bodies are different.
Mine is tinnitus, they say that is a prelude to hearing loss??? mine competes with noise, it hisses louder when noise tries to drown it out laugh Thats me and we find our own way around problems. Well done you i say teddybear
There is never a waking moment that the high-pitched ringing ceases, yet I can still speak and hear online and listen to and love great music, I suspect that is going to fade, but then once 80 or so I can only shrug. The yapping dogs of the two neighbours irritate me more than the tinnitus.
That nurse needs to go back and study the effects of tinnitus.

I've had 2 ENT specialists tell me tinnitus doesn't start with the ears, it's where the nerves connected to the brain that causes all the 'hissing' sounds. I say hissing because ringing is only sometimes. If I'm around some really loud noises hissing overcomes the ringing.

Monday, I was on a jobsite where they were doing demolition and banging on metal studs to remove a wall. I was unprepared and didn't have earplugs. Hopefully some of the roar will subside.
Maybe it was the way I worded it that she didn't understand. dunno

She wasn't hearing impaired herself and she could empathise to a certain extent because she was visually impaired, but I came away thinking she must be trying some placebo shit on me, thinking I was disturbed by my tinnitus. I find the more I have come to understand my sense of hearing, the easier and more fun it is to navigate it.

I'm sorry to hear about your roaring. I find the intermittent and temporary noises far more annoying than than the constant ones.
Unless something catastrophic happens within the next three years, I think you can be a bit more optimistic than that.

Maybe 90, aye? banana
jac, if you take high doses of aspirin it will raise the tinnitus levels.

Do you know why?

I'm not sure if you can buy aspirin in the UK again. It was taken off the market about 30 years ago because of problems with intestinal bleeding. For a long time it was only prescribed in low doses for angina, or something of the like.

I certainly haven't had any since trying (rather unsuccessfully) to gargle with it as a small child because of chronic ENT infections.
Aspirin is used to treat pain, and reduce fever and/or inflammation.
It's been used as a first line of defense to treat heart attack.

In the USA, it's commonly obtained without a prescription in pill or capsule form as high a dosage as 500mg.

1,000mg will knock out a migraine so it doesn't soon return.

I believe what happens is Aspirin dilates the blood vessels and that could be the reason for ringing in the ears side effect when taking large doses.

Low dose under 100mg daily is recommended by the FDA as heart attack preventative.
I had various part time jobs working in pharmacies when I was at school and college. At the time tablets/capsules were 500mg salicylic acid and the dosage was one, or two every four hours.

Now you've reminded me, the 'mini' aspirin for angina is 75mg.

I don't get why dilating blood vessels would increase tinnitus, but I'll take your word for it. I think trying to google how that mechanism works might be a bit of a tall order. laugh

Thanks for the detail and explanation.
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