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Grandsiozzie: I think a white flag is cheaper both in money and human cost.

Nobody in the west cares that most of eastern Ukraine is full of Russian citizens?
I remember how important that stuff was in Jugoslavia.

Grapewine555: Don’t Putin does already?

ChesneyChrist: Universalism is the hallmark of the west and we can never define the worth of hating the neighbouring village. The truth is that eastern Europe isn't even a thing like western Europe is. What do they have in common apart from all being the victims of communism?

Grapewine555: Don’t Putin does already?

jac_the_gripper: So, the Russians who started a war by invading Ukraine are trying not to hurt anyone?

Grapewine555: And in 2014 who started this war???

Lukeon: Please get your facts right, the Russians never STARTED the war.

jac_the_gripper: That would be advisable.

robplum: I agree with you Lukeon, can't help the folks on here suffering lost listen mate.

They have repeatably been advised the Ukraine constitution binds Ukraine to the Democrat Russian Federation Constitution and its Bill of Rights that was ratified in December 1993.
In 1991 the new Russian constitution declared Russia as a democratic federation, a law-based state with a republican form of government. State power is divided among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. democracy. Russia is a democracy and west Ukraine has been part of that Russia for more than 800 years.
So mate i suggest that you stay your course and just ignore the stupidity that keeps getting tossed up by members that don't guard there minds

Grandsiozzie: Capable maybe, willing no.
Have a great weekend Luke

Lukeon: Winter has hit us here with no warning.

Pyrite: "west Ukraine has been part of that Russia for more than 800 years."

Do you want to amend that hyperbolic?


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Grapewine555: There have been more than 900 attacks on Ukraine's health care system since Russia's invasion began, according to the WHO. France denounced the most recent strikes as "war crimes." Link: CNN

robplum: I agree with you Lukeon, can't help the folks on here suffering lost listen mate.

They have repeatably been advised the Ukraine constitution binds Ukraine to the Democrat Russian Federation Constitution and its Bill of Rights that was ratified in December 1993.
In 1991 the new Russian constitution declared Russia as a democratic federation, a law-based state with a republican form of government. State power is divided among the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. democracy. Russia is a democracy and west Ukraine has been part of that Russia for more than 800 years.
So mate i suggest that you stay your course and just ignore the stupidity that keeps getting tossed up by members that don't guard there minds

Pyrite: My bad for not doing this right the first time. Plus, I used a hint that I thought would tip you off about being wrong but maybe it was too obscure for you.

Anyway recap, I called you on something you wrote? (I hit quote and highlighted it this time to avoid confusion).

Well you are wrong because the USSR, not Russia, finally got Western Ukraine(what we know it as today) by taking Eastern Poland under the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in "1939" and then annexed it officially since the USSR was in de facto the possession of it at the end of WW2.

Funny your wiki link to History of Ukraine page forgot to mention that. I think wiki said: After the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany invaded Poland in September 1939, the Ukrainian SSR's territory expanded westward


Please, don't take my word Google it.

Lukeon: all I read was interesting UNTIL I saw the CNN.

That makes all you said not worthy of being read. CNN is the chief msm bull sitter of all times. I will never believe anything they say, ever period.

Merlot22: It was wrong to weaponize civilians. Zelensky may have had good intentions but he lacked experience and intelligence. Yes the civilians wanted to fight, of course they did, so did the Irish with pitch forks but they got killed. He brought this on Ukraine through his naivety. He is continuing with a pig headed approach while his country is being destroyed and the population displaced and turned into refugees with 4 or 5 million gone east to Russia and another 4 or 5 million gone west, plus the displaced traumatised millions remaining not to mention those killed and worse.

Lukeon: The way I see it Western nations like to pretend that colonialism was all but wiped out in the years following the Second World War. However, those who know better than to trust the accounts of the western ‘victors’ of WWII understand that imperialism is alive and well. Constant military and political interventions in Latin America, the Middle East and Africa serve to uphold American hegemony in the world. While the US maintains that these incursions into the sovereignty of other nations are in the interests of promoting ‘universal values’, such as so-called democracy and freedom, it is clear in the aftermath of such attacks that the opposite is true. Rather than improving the countries that the US (among other nations) invades, the outcome is often mass bloodshed and severe degradation of the quality of life for the lower classes.
Never getting their own hands dirty, for many years Proxy wars were the rule in the invasion and instalation of puppet governments.
Unfortunately when the power of the MSM are unleashed on the already brainwashed and gullible public they lap it up as the gospel truth and will stand and support the criminal invaders, idolizing and justifying the actions of the true war criminals. This is an perfectly planned and executed phycological operation that has taken many years to perfect.

ChesneyChrist: Taken many years to degenerate. I sometimes think about how South Korea and Japan turned out the way they did, in spite of the latter being nuked, and then we have nothing to show for South Africa, Iraq and Afghanistan. They're all bollocks.

ChesneyChrist: My explanation is TINA and the baby boomers. They didn't have to do anything right because they thought they'd win anyway. Aren't we all entitled to a fully-functioning first world capitalist democracy? There is no alternative as good as saying there is no competition aka planet ruled by Mr Monopoly - and Mr Monopoly is a posh spaz.