Vietnam War Veterans PTSD(Post Traumatic Stress Di

A very large number of Vietnam veterans haven’t made it all the way home from the war in Southeast Asia. By conservative estimates, at least half a million Vietnam veterans still lead lives plagued by serious, war-related readjustment problems. Such problems crop up in a number of ways, varying from veteran to veteran. Flashbacks to combat… feelings of alienation or anger… depression, loneliness and an inability to get close to others… sometimes drug or alcohol problems… perhaps even suicidal feelings.

In World War II, the United States was very clearly threatened by a uniformed and easily recognizable foe. In Vietnam, it was quite the opposite. It appeared that the whole country was hostile to American forces. The enemy was rarely uniformed, and American troops were often forced to kill women and children combatants. There were no real lines of demarcation, and just about any area was subject to attack. Most American forces had been trained to fight in conventional warfare, in which other human beings are confronted and a block of land is either acquired or lost in the fray. However, in Vietnam, surprise firing devices such as booby traps accounted for a large number of casualties with the human foe rarely sighted. A block of land might be secured but not held.

The only observable outcome was an interminable production of maimed, crippled bodies and countless corpses. Some were so disfigured it was hard to tell if they were Vietnamese or American, but they were all dead.

The civilian population of the World War II era had been treated to movies about the struggles of readjustment for veterans.
The civilian population of the Vietnam era was treated to the horrors of the war on the six o’clock news. They were tired and numb to the whole experience. Some were even fighting mad, and many veterans came home to witness this fact.
Some World War II veterans came home to victory parades. Vietnam veterans returned in defeat and witnessed antiwar marches and protests.

PTSD symptoms experienced by some Vietnam war veterans are:

DEPRESSION

Many have been continually depressed since their experiences in Vietnam. They have the classic symptoms of sleep disturbance, psychomotor retardation, feelings of worthlessness, difficulty in concentrating, etc.

ISOLATION

Combat veterans have few friends. Many veterans who witnessed traumatic experiences complain of feeling like old men in young men’s bodies. They feel isolated and distant from their peers.

RAGE

The veterans’ rage is frightening to them and to others around them. For no apparent reason, many will strike out at whomever is near. Frequently, this includes their wives and children.

SURVIVAL GUILT

When others have died and some have not, the survivors often ask, “How is it that I survived when others more worthy than I did not?

ANXIETY REACTIONS

Some veterans are uncomfortable when standing out in the open. Many are uneasy when sitting with others behind them, often opting to sit up against something solid, such as a wall. The bigger the object is, the better. Many combat veterans are most comfortable when sitting in the corner in a room, where they can see everyone about them.

SLEEP DISTURBANCE AND NIGHTMARES

Few veterans struggling with post-traumatic stress disorders find the hours immediately before sleep very comfortable. In fact, many will stay awake as long as possible. They will often have a drink or smoke some cannabis to dull any uncomfortable cognition that may enter during this vulnerable time period.

INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS

Traumatic memories of the battlefield and other less affect- laden combat experiences often play a role in the daytime cognitions of combat veterans. Frequently, these veterans report replaying especially problematic combat experiences over and over again.

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One of my older brothers served during the Vietnam war but I don't think he ever had PTSD.

But I found out recently that my son suffers from PTSD from being deployed to Iraq but as of last March he received an honorable discharge from the Army because of an injury while performing an exercise.
Soc.
And it is so sad! That people have to deal with this. Not only them! But there family too.
Yes Angel is is very sad.

I've had to deal with my own sons condition up close and personal and it's been no walk in the park.


My thoughts go out to the other family and friends who deal with it everyday.
CC.
.......hug
And after they go out! And fight in the war. Then they have to return home. And fight with having that too! sad flower
That's true Angel.Some even have to be on meds.
The article is BS and self serving BS authored by a group seeking funding. Reality is many of those claiming PTSD turned out to have never even been in theater with many never even being in the military. Many turned out to have been Draft or 4F (unfi
t for the military) capitilizing yeaon sors later on societies privacy laws preventing their identification as frauds wwhen they sought the benefits and honor due true veterans. In reality less than 500 true cases of Vietnam era PTSD cases were found.

Many Movies dealing with WW 2 era vets having difficulty readjusting? More BS. Name 3. Reality is 'Monkey On My Back' is the only one Hollywood turned out.

Reality is most of tbe true PTSD victims had simlar backgrounds. Sheltered and raised to believe bad things don't happen to good poeople and i is evil, the reality of military conflict clashed with false beliefs. Psych damage resulted. Macht Nix. The numbers so damaged were small.
Ken

Here is the full quote from the article re movies dealing with readjustment stating three that you requested:
"The civilian population of the World War II era had been treated to movies about the struggles of readjustment for veterans (i.e. The Man In The Grey Flannel Suit, The Best Years of Our Lives, Pride of The Marines) to prepare them to help the veteran (DeFazio, 1978)".


"The numbers so damaged were small."

There are several internet articles dealing with the issue.
Here is an extract from another article:

"Still, in a chilling reminder of war's long-term effects, the VA reported that last year it treated 476,515 veterans for PTSD -- most of them veterans of the Vietnam war almost 50 years ago. Tragically, the Vietnam generation of vets didn't have access to the kinds of services now available through the VA."



This figure is certainly much more than 500.
Perhaps, this goes to show that humanity is one big family and the deliberate killing of another person, even in wartime, has certain detrimental psychological consequences for the killer. Having the support of the civilian members of one's country, as it was the case in World War II, may help to alleviate those consequences but it can never eliminate them.

During the Vietnam war, American soldiers killed women and children who must have seen themselves as simply trying to defend their country against the foreign invaders. Such action must play on the consciences of even the most hard-hearted. However, they were simply carrying out the orders of their superiors. Some may have received citations and medals for their actions but that did not spare them from the detrimental effects of PTSD.
Ccincy

"I've had to deal with my own sons condition up close and personal and it's been no walk in the park.
My thoughts go out to the other family and friends who deal with it everyday."


I empathize with you. Hope things improve with your son's condition.
Angel

So very true!

After they fight in the war, when they get home, they must also fight with its traumatic psychological consequences.
soc
i do believe ptsd does exist...but certain conditions/criteria have to exist before you can label...that being said...the brutality of war could make anyone depressed, lose sleep and suffer nightmares...my problem is the lack of support of the vietnam vets...why should they suffer unpopularity due to citizens recognizing or questioning their (government's) involvement in the war...
Anyway...through all of the History lessons weve received here and the Disagreements amongst the xomments..Thers one thing that I..Rob and Ken do agree on ..and that is that this PTSD is nothing but a crock of s---.......................detective
Anyway...through all of the History lessons weve received here and the Disagreements amongst the xomments..Thers one thing that I..Rob and Ken do agree on ..and that is that this PTSD is nothing but a crock of s---.......................detective
robplum

Thanks for your input and your detailed information about the war itself, and other factors relating to it.
It is greatly appreciated.
The term PTSD(Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) is just a label (a relatively recent one perhaps) for certain symptoms which are not confined to the effects of war alone.
The focus is on the symptoms, not on the label.

The symptoms existed even before the label was assigned.

In other words, the symptoms did not come into existence when the label was assigned.
Ken

September 1, 1939 – September 2, 1945
(World War II, Period)

Movie: Pride of the Marines (1945)
(Marine hero Al Schmid is blinded in battle and returns home to be rehabilitated. He readjusts to his civilian life with the help of his soon to be wife.)

Movie: The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
(Fred, Al and Homer are three World War II veterans facing difficulties as they re-enter civilian life.)

Movie: The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit (1956)
(An ex-soldier faces ethical questions as he tries to earn enough to support his wife and children well.)
loulou

I agree with your concern about the lack of support for Vietnam War veterans although from what I've read, some effort is being made to address it.

Here is an excerpt from the article on which this blog is based:


"REFERRALS FOR HELP

As already discussed, post-traumatic stress disorders result in widely varying degrees of impairment. When a single veteran (whether bachelor or divorced) with the disorder requests help, I refer him to a group of other combat veterans. The reasons are twofold. First, the veteran is usually quite isolated and has lost many of his social skills. He has few contacts with other human beings. The group provides a microcosm in which he can again learn how to interact with other people. It also helps remove the fear, prevalent among these veterans, that each individual veteran is the only individual with these symptoms. In addition, many of the veterans form close support groups of their own outside the therapy sessions; they telephone each other and help each other through particularly problematic episodes.

Second, the most basic rationale for group treatment of these veterans is that it finally provides the veteran with that “long boat ride home” with other veterans who have had similar experiences. It provides a forum in which veterans troubled by their combat experiences can work their feelings through with other veterans who have had similar conflicts. In addition, the present symptoms of the disorder are all quite similar, and there is more reinforcement in working through these symptoms with one’s peers than in doing it alone.

The group situation is appropriate for most degrees of the symptoms presented. The especially isolated individuals will often be quite frightened of the initial group session. When challenged by questioning the strength that brought them to the initial interview, however, they will usually respond by following through with the group. Those with severely homicidal or suicidal symptoms are best handled in a more crisis-oriented, one-to-one setting until the crisis is resolved. I refer these veterans to an appropriate emergency team, with the expectation directly shared with the veteran that he will join the group as soon as the crisis has abated."
more labels or taking pills does not assist veterans to over come PTSD rather understanding the interdependent arising of there troubles is necessary to achieve more lasting happiness, not more labels. I am a Vietnam Veteran with long time experience with the subject matter and disagree with your prognosis, i am say veterans be better off looking looking at the causes and effect of disturbance in mind and that it is then possible to reorder ones thought process
ww2 vets in this part of the world (other than wounded or ex-POW) were mostly left to there own devices, most turned to drink and stuggeled with life.
I was appalled to note America did nothing much in support of its Vietnam Vets, other Vets supported injured Veterans while your government did stuff all.
In or about 2005/06 Deputy Prime Minister of Australia Tim Fischer (who was himself wounded in VN) traveled to USA and assisted better support and establishment of legal process of PTSD application. I know that as i demonstrated via Pleiku Pals, < > how to utilize the process.
I think its worth mentioning that Christians in North Vietnam were shipped to the South before the DMZ was put in place and a Christian Government was installed who promptly divested lots of the Buddhist Vietnamese of there land then invited USA to commence the killing.

For more than one century Vietnamese fought the French so pretty well understood the mind set of Christians and from my own side the Vietnamese did a number on us, dished up karmas we never understood anything about, they messed with our heads.

Myself I got lucky meeting Mahayana Tibetan Teachers and carefully considered what was been said, i engaged in meditation to still mind and very carefully sat around reviewing every single day of my life back to about age ten, including every single day of the thirteen months driving mostly unarmed and alone amongst the Vietnamese People. Most of my time was spent in Saigon, but not all, i saw quite a lot of Vietnam during my time in country.

In that way i subdued mind and quite a lot of anger as I was better able to comprehend my own impute, impute of army, impute of Americans i billeted and socialized with and above all the Vietnamese...lots of documents are posted on my website home page < robplum.com > and record in the form of news headlines of some events leading up to the war is also posted on my site by following this link < >
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