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Originally from the UK I retired & moved to Spain 20 years ago, whilst it's not paradise it's probably as close as I'll ever come to it, living on a mountain with the sea in front & mountains behind & 320 days of sunshine a year. Still reasonably fit
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Or because some still believe it's a relic and the scientific tests the work of the devil?
I remember all the fuss going on before it was shown to be not what it was claimed. To be fair, if you really believed it was a relic, to take a piece for testing created an issue of sacrilege.
The power of wanting to believe...lol...and ek is right...a good way to make money...too funny!!
The rest of your comment looks to me much like the effects of brainwashing\hypnosis & if I were prosecuting counsel in a court case I'd be tempted to say " I rest my case "
The fact that though entry is free much money will be generated by stays etc is a sad reflection on the lengths some will go to make money, against that I suppose we have to allow for the demand to see it
I think she got rid of it...but I could see it making some coin...
ken
I remember the story about the blue dress...thought it was true!!...now what about the cigar?...lol...
How is that different from a painting, or a photograph?
I think people don't really care whether it is real or not.
It is a symbol in a symbol-heavy religion.
People celebrate Christmas and Easter as if they were the exact dates Jesus was born and died, instead of important dates in the pre-Christian pagan calendar.
They take bread which is symbolic of the body of Christ, and wine as the blood.
Symbols are huge in religion, as it doesn't have much solid to go on.
The biggest corruption and stealing centre are churches who don't preach Christ, but look for donations or ways to raise finance.
I've just watched an interesting documentary, albeit a probably biased one.
The blood marks are actually blood on the shroud. The blood group (AB) matches the blood on a cloth in Spain that is supposed to be the one which covered Jesus' head after he was taken down from the cross. DNA testing would be interesting, eh? I wonder why that hasn't been done.
28 species of pollen found on the cloth correspond with plants only found in the Middle East, suggesting at some point the cloth has been there.
The image is a negative, like the negative of a photograph. The image has not been painted on the cloth because, unlike the blood stains, nothing has soaked into the cloth.
The image corresponds to common imagery of Jesus for centuries and it has been suggested that the image on the Turin Shroud might be the prototype for all the subsequent imagery.
The image on the cloth appears to replicate internal skeletal structure in places, suggesting it could have been formed by radiation, like an X-ray image.
The fibres of the cloth have been coated with some kind of bacterial residue which may have affected the carbon dating, ie. the bacterial contamination is from 700 years ago, but the cloth might be much older.
Even if it was shown to be about 2,000 years old, it doesn't prove it's the image of Jesus. Even if it could be proved it's Jesus, it doesn't prove that Jesus was the son of a god, or that a god exists.
I do find it interesting that it's at least 700 years old and the image doesn't appear to have been painted on. Don't you find that interesting?
Z, I guess people need symbols, whether for religion or not, but especially in religion.
But they also like mysteries, and unexplained things.
The Shroud covers all of that.
Looks like an old cartoon...lol...
Trying to lighten up...lots of political/religious stuff at the moment!!...cartoons are always good for a laugh!!
It has occurred to me that this is an important subject to you, Zee. Why create a blog about it if it didn't have some kind of impact, or emotional investment for you?
I also wonder if total rejection, even to the point of denying that it's an interesting piece of art, or history strikes me as fanatical as those who start talking about black holes and resurrection phenomena in relation to the Turin Shroud.
Of course you may wish to embrace the new theory which recovers Jesus being connected to the shroud, i.e., we were all wrong and Jesus lived in the 12th century not the first.
I must admit I do have a soft spot for some of the art forgers, you've got laugh when their paintings are passed as genuine by the art experts
In the documentary I watched, they had the fella who invented carbon dating. It seems the fibres had a residue on them due to bacterial contamination. This wasn't known about at the time when it was tested and the cleaning processes used at the time were ineffective against it. I think that means they carbon dated the residue, not the shroud fibres.
He basically said work was being done to find a way of removing the residue and when that had been sorted, they'd offer to test the shroud fibres again...but he couldn't say if the offer would be accepted.
So far, I'm just seeing stuff which says nobody really knows how it was created.