Atheism, Theism and God

When the term “God” is mentioned, it seems it is generally assumed that everyone has a clear and common understanding of what it refers to.
But is this really so?
Could it be that there are significant differences in what different persons perceive as God?
I think that it is very important to closely examine the answer to this question in fairness to those who consider themselves to be atheists, and also theists, since these terms are both related to the notion of God.

We define ourselves as beings, that is, human beings. A being is a living entity, endowed with some type of life force which may be termed spirit. Each human being is said to have such a spirit (or soul). God is also normally perceived as a spirit.
A human is viewed as a being at the natural level whereas God is viewed as a being at a higher level, referred to as the Supernatural level.

I wonder if viewing a human being as an entity at the natural or human level and viewing God as an entity at a higher or supernatural level somehow seems to suggest that God may be viewed as a superhuman being. In other words, God is viewed as having human-like attributes, but at a higher or superhuman level. Essentially, this is an anthropomorphism.

In the Bible, the book of Genesis states that God created man in his own image. George Bernard Shaw said: “God created man in his own image and man has returned the compliment”. That is, man has created God in his own image, with human-like attributes.

Is it possible that one can have a direct apprehension of that spirit (or force) which religion (theology) refers to as God, without viewing it in terms of human or superhuman attributes, that is, natural or supernatural? One simply views it directly as some phenomenon and is contented to apprehend it at that level.

I think most persons would agree that there is some sort of order or principle in the working of the cosmos. Here on planet Earth, we experience the orderly changes in the seasons, and from day to night and vice versa, etc.. The Natural Sciences have revealed to us certain laws like the Law of Gravity, the Law of Conservation of Energy, etc., that are manifested in the operation of Planet Earth.

Perhaps having a direct awareness of this principle in action is having a realization of the very “essence” of what is commonly termed God. Scriptures or religious teachings attempt to put a “form” to this "essence" and view the essence and form as being synonymous and co-existing with each other. Both are essential from the religious perspective.

If a person has such a direct awareness, that is, of the “essence” without having an interest in the teachings or dogma of any religion, is such a person an atheist or “godless” - a term which, to many, has negative connotations such as evil-mindedness and an uncaring attitude towards others, etc.?

The commonly quoted statement “God is Love” seems to suggest that one should have a belief in and an acceptance of God as taught in religion in order to love others and to express that love in action.
However, does one need to believe in God as defined in the dogma of religion in order to love others and to have a caring attitude toward them and, more importantly, to express this attitude in action?

Some of the world's notable philanthropists are atheists. These include Bill Gates and Warren Buffet.
I know of several well-to-do theists who profess a caring attitude toward others but do little or nothing to express it in action.

What do you think?

(Please note that I am aware of Proverbs 16:25)
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Comments (9)

You left out 'athletism'.


But back on subject god is not love, love comes from within.
If someone need a source outside themselves to find love
then humanity is lost.
Foxworth
Thanks for your input.
Before I respond more fully, can you please enlighten me about 'athletism'?
It is the very first time I am seeing the word. Is it an English word? The English dictionaries I consulted have no entry for such a word. Where can I get information on it? What does it mean?
Thank You!
Hello Soc,

I am not sure if one should associate God as love. That is just new to me. I associate God as light.

If you are mistaken in associating God as love, then your correlation as Atheists as being loveless, is flawed.


Just my two cents...I really do not know.
I should add, I have heard God as being a loving God...but not love itself.
Johnny

My reference to the quote is based on the Bible.
Here is the full context from which the quote is taken:

1 John 4 (International Standard Version)

7 Dear friends, let us continuously love one another, because love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born from God and knows God.

8 The person who does not love does not know God, because "God is love".


Another version states:

1 John 4 (English Standard Version)

7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God.

8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because "God is love".
Thanks for sharing Soc.
*do not always do the right thing.
Soc,

Very well put and I agree with your assessment. I often wondered, if God appeared in front of somebody, or in front of all of us, how would we know it is God and would everyone believe it is God? That of course, if God is form.

Now I am coming from a standpoint of ignorance (so consider what you want here) because I never read the whole Bible. But, I have talked to people who have read it and have studied it extensively. They tell me the Bible is symbolic in nature. Maybe the concept of God needed to be describe as having form for people to either believe in him/her/it or to fully comprehend the idea. dunno

Myself, I kinda like Greek mythology with the concept of many Gods. I happen to think that aliens do exist and had a part in making us humans. Therefore, they would fit the criteria or figure of a God or Gods if there are several different alien races out there.

I also think, we were designed as humans to know only what we are suppose to know. When it is time for us to know something more, it will appear to us. For example, I "think" there are many more dimensions that exist around us, but with the combination of our five senses, we only "know" of three.

Okay....a bit off the subject here.

grin
Hi Johnny,
What would you call the three dimensions you believe we are aware of? Just curious.

I do agree with this theory (that there are dimensions - i.e., the spiritual world, that we cannot 'see' but are aware of through other sensories)

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