Reasons not to get married

Here's a couple, not young (knocking 60) in a really good relationship. One was very happily married, then widowed, and believes marriage is important. One was unhappily married and is still smarting after a stinging divorce, so marriage is not an option.

It is becoming an issue. I'm hoping you lot can provide some really good stuff person B (I am not going to say he or she) can use to avoid being frog-marched to the altar yet still keep what really is a good relationship on an even keel. help

Oh, and the first comment or two will be mine. It's what I do. laugh
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I'm stumped. Oh, not me, by the way. I was just amazed that for once I couldn't offer any advice, that NEVER happens. I don't think you guys can either, but would love to be wrong.
living together..... the feel just like married but actually not.
Glib quotes like 'marriage is a great institution, but I wouldn't want to live in an institution' will lighten the mood of the blog but do very, very little to solve the problem. Just sayin'.

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You never know. You may need this blog yourself one day when your new and lovely partner starts getting a little sulky about the NOT going-to-the-chapel thing. There could be as many as 5 really good points to trot out ...
Amorn, not an option for Person A. Too many people do it, then split up because they can't be bothered any more.

Sure, the one who loves you will never leave you because even if there are 100 reasons to give up, they will find 1 reason to hold on. But proving that without the commitment of marriage?
Under table? Like common-law marriage? Never heard of that phrase, I like it! I've heard the phrase when you say Mary cooks for John (or John for Mary?) it means living together laugh

Person B needs to change Person A's point of view, not their living arrangements dunno
that's a tough one, elegs! No wonder you were at a loss!

Perhaps a pre-nuptial agreement?

Perhaps the Person who wants to get married should ask "if I was dying, would you marry me?" that actually worked for a couple I know. It got the Reluctant One to do a lot of soul searching! They've been happily married now for a long time.

They could move next door to each other. Perhaps the Reluctant One might start to question the point of paying for two places?

Perhaps the Reluctant One needs to be asked if he/she could live happily and contentedly without the other.

Very interesting conundrum!
Twisty one, isn't it? And Lucy my neighbours got married after 7 years together when he was diagnosed with terminal cancer, just to simplify the paperwork for her. (Then he went into remission yay)
Feign a breakdown. Eat frozen chicken nuggets right out of the bag wearing nothing but an overcoat, then say you'll be alright in a few months and maybe there could be an engagement then whilst stressing that you're on the edge and she must be kind to you.

Or claim you've been sleeping with her sister. Surely kicking any wedding talk right into touch.
At 60 is marriage really crucial or is a great relationship the way to go?
I have found that the main factor in any relationship (that can be avoided tho)is familiarity. The way to go then, is to have a 2 or three month break away from each other every year.
In any case I would think that a great relationship would not pressurize either party to do what he/she isn't comfortable with.JMO
At 60 is marriage really crucial or is a great relationship the way to go?
I have found that the main factor in any relationship (that can be avoided tho)is familiarity. The way to go then, is to have a 2 or three month break away from each other every year.
In any case I would think that a great relationship would not pressurize either party to do what he/she isn't comfortable with.JMO
Oh the sleeping with sister will for sure preserve the good relationship and keep it on an even keel ... laugh

interesting that you decided it had to be the female wanting marriage.
Luke howzit boet and that's good - the breaks apart, I mean.

The issue isn't causing a breakup but it is causing a little tension, and the tension isn't going away. I know some couples are completely happy taking things day by day and others feel if it is REAL why not marry? The one who feels the most strongly about their point usually wins, but it can be a hollow victory. Or end things altogether. roll eyes
Person A, Person B, sounds horrendous. Call them William and Mary.

I'll be back with coffee later to play on the blogs and hopefully be impressed as all get-out with your answers. cheers
Sorry about the hiccup..sigh laugh
Maybe they could have some kind of alternative marriage.

Not so formal as to frighten off the unwilling partner, but enough to satisfy the other partner?
Eleg...

it's happened to me with one.
I will not say "in relationship", but real close friend.
we like each other... sometimes we say "love".
we talked many things and feel comfortable...
but when I found that he is not marrriage oriented whilst I am..
I stop to let this feeling farer toward him, and keep as a friend only.
I know no solution for such a problem.
Tiz a tough one Biff,,and i do believe that both parties probably make a good case..

But in my view i believe the one who wants to get married should be the one to back off a tad.
Yes they believe marriage is a great and honourable thing (and i believe it still can be).

However,,the one who has suffered the hurt of the broken marriage is probably the most fragile regarding this matter,and based on that reason i reckon theyre wishes hold a little bit more value.professor

They should be mature enough to reach a compromise,which is necessary here.
It sounds like they potentially have a great relationship in the making,,would be a shame to spoil it with the pressure of marriage vows..

Theyres nothing to stop them getting married a little further down the track...Perhaps.bouquet
Very good, molly....a compromise! A nice little ceremony without an official but with family and friends - just two people saying their personal committments to each other.
Eleg...I am the queen of compromise angel


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I called "under table" marriage, Molly...rolling on the floor laughing
Well, that is one sided and rather disrespectful. She can keep him as a fun partner or drop him altogether. I know what I would do. wave kiss (they don't have an emoticon for "mooning")
She's getting a tiny bit whiny about it. I wish she wouldn't.
Ah now Lucy if you secured your scapled fella and it really, really mattered to you to turn him into Mr Maud, and everything else was great? laugh
The whiny bit is probably one of the stages she needs to go through before realizing that there's no point in "wishing and hoping......" (song by Petula Clark)
And wouldn't he be the luckiest man in the world! laugh
Another viable alternative would be for him , on a romantic night in, to blindfold her and lead her over to the hob, and let her burn her hand over the open flame.

Then the following day ask her to go with him to the cooker again.

She'll say 'No, are you mad..I got burned last time I did that!'.


He can then say, 'now you understand '.







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Hahaha Lucy I think he would! Time someone made an honest man of him rolling on the floor laughing
I found the single persons tax allowance was a useful tool in the UK, don't know if that's changed now dunno
Molly - that is BRILLIANT wow
MJ, I wonder if that comment started a few hearts beating faster? hug
Z, I foresee some issues. Darling, I'd do it, but hell - lose my tax allowance? You ain't worth it ...

Hmmm .. rolling on the floor laughing
Im like a laxative Elegsabiff im ok in small doses it would be a brave woman to take me on full time angel devil laugh
It's all in the phrasing professor laugh that would never work but "I wouldn't be able to afford to buy you a new car" just might innocent rolling on the floor laughing
G'evening Ms Biff wave
i'v not read any comments here, but why not just say I DON'T WANT TO GET MARRIED? dunno
MJ - okay, my pulse just slowed back to normal rolling on the floor laughing
Z you're just a tad cynical ... Mary is actually slightly the better off of the two. Wealthy widow. conversing
Candy, you sound EXACTLY like Mary. She's heading towards those conversations. They've been together nearly 2 years and it has been very close and getting closer all the time but ....
Molly, you're the girl with the words. How does he make that clear in the fact of her stubborn beliefs?
Eleg, maybe as well as questioning the reasoning behind why one person definitely Doesn't want to get married, one should also question why another person Does want it so badly?
At the risk of disappointing all the men seeking my favour here on CS laugh , marriage is not on the list of my priorities in life or in a relationship. However, if I was in a serious relationship, I would expect the man to accept my self-sufficiency and independence while enjoying a mutually loving, respectful relationship with a large dollop of spontaneity and adventure. We have to respect and understand each other's values and, surely at this stage in life, it shouldn't be that difficult to do. Otherwise, it's a no-go really.
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