Bayer AG bids 62 billion for Monsanto....

Monsanto, is a US company that is big in crop pesticides and GMO seeds. Europe has done so well without GMO and pesticides. This can not be good....I can't chat about it, but will come back later........Oh, Bayer AG is a German Company......
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I am in two minds about Monsanto
Yet when we see the dry weather in Africa and other places

Then we might need Monsanto or Bayer AG for their GMO..
Maybe slightly off topic, but maybe not...

I'm against opening the EU borders for US agricultural goods - producing milk and meat in the USA is mostly done with hormones, something that is forbidden in the EU and I'm absolutely against. Flooding a market with high regulations compared to the rest of the world with food produced not to the same standard thumbs down

Did you keep an eye out on alternative ag companies? Alltech is growing hugely over the last number of years with all natural crop and animal feeding solutions with the aim to replace/reduce the use of antibiotics and pesticides.

What is happening is not talked about enough in the main stream media and there should be an outcry to NOT let food into the EU that isn't produced to the same standard - similar applies to Monsanto, consumers should take a stance against GMO seeds and too much use of pesticicides where it is not necessary.
KN,
I agree TTIP scares me uh oh
Most people do not know all the risks of bad food items in the us. Aluminum products in tortillas, bread and cocoa....azocarbimine(so?) In bread..the list goes on and on. With Alzheimer's and dementia so huge....i winder why people get these thu gs? Well, I read everything, don't eat meat not drink dairy and I feel a thousand times better.
Really scary is that Bayer AG could buy Monsato for any price they'd be asked to pay for!

Roundup is not new to Germany, it just didn't get the same attention like other European country,
Around 40% of pesticides being sprayed in Germany is Glyphosate.
Same here Callio. thumbs up

KN. thumbs up

Non. Yes, TTIP are standardising everything now - not to the higher standards, but to the lowest. doh
It should Non, currently lots of EU farmers (bad world market price, so dairy farmers struggle everywhere) are facing bankruptcy because of the current milk prices that are by far not covering the costs.

If we need to import dairy and beef, it most likely won't be produced to the same standards (e. g. there was residues of deworming paste found in South American meat, in the EU every animal is tested before slaughter of residues and if there is something found,the meat will be discarded, North America allows the use of hormones). I don't want any of these foods - problem is, if this meat is used in prepared meals or restaurants you can't always avoid it, it can only be avoided if you buy the food raw (and with correct labeling).
Currently people are trying to get glyphosate forbidden Seri. conversing

They haven't been coming up with a real alternative (a "healthier" one for a lack of better word) in the last decades though.

It is good that alternatives are coming onto the market and these are taken on by a lot of farmers. thumbs up
I buy organic carrots , grown in Spain ( organic certified!)
But it doesn't state if the seeds are organic or the soil!

That's the problem, organic farmers are being ripped for trying to make a living by selling good food!
And the consumers have to pay for that!!

Pharmaceutical companies don't want consumers to eat good and healthy,
they want us to pay for food that makes us sick so that we have to pay for their products to get better again!
With TTIP, I can't see that happening soon K, and Monsato or Bayer won't let that happen.
Seri, if a farm wants to change their production to organic in Ireland, it takes 5 years before they are a certified organic farm - that does include everything - seed, production methods, fertilizer use. Farms with animal are only allowed to feed organic produce, also the amount of feed that can be bought in as supposed to homegrown is limited.

The consumer can make a choice, but if people are willing to pay €2.50 for a whole chicken or 10 cent for a yogurt, they shouldn't be wondering why local/EU farmers are going bankrupt and we get food in from the other side of the world. Some consumers don't care and a lot are not informed enough, but then, it is up to everyone else to get information about what they eat.
And the charge( a fine!) to certify organic products is a joke in Ireland, not very encouraging isn't it?

I can't even keep my own chickens anymore without a certificate, even if it's just for my own consumption ...
Don't shoot the messenger Seri, I know someone that works in one of the certification bodies and they are doing a lot to encourage and built up organic farming in Ireland. I don't know the exact amount to pay to be a member of an organic organisation, but it was manageable for a farm as far as I can remember. Would you need one to sell your own products?

Didn't know about the chicken. Problem is some idiots that don't know anything about chicken or how to keep them healthy have probably caused problems in the past and that's why you need a certification these days. Same with pigs btw., even farmers need a cert if they want to keep them.
You can sell your products without a certificate but you can't claim it's organic ...
Fair enough I suppose.

Yeah, some have cause trouble and I'm aware it's about the right conditions and care for the poultry..
If I would know someone sells homegrown stuff from their own garden in a responsible way, I would buy it Seri. thumbs up

Went to see an organic farm that sold eggs, having all the hens outside, a transportable hen house for the night and access to fresh water with vinegar against parasites - they knew what they were doing, I think you need to know proper nutrition and taking care of them in regards to parasites etc., otherwise people could get sick and that would be a disaster for the whole sector...

I have a (farmer) friend and I do get my eggs from him from time to time (if I buy in the supermarket, I buy organic).
I'd do that too K, but more I'd like to have time and space to grow my own with a little pet farm grin
KN agree wholeheartedly with you. They test gm crops BUT forget (or not) that fencing crop with sign posts is stupid, the seed drifts into god knows what. It should be covered if they must, all food should be labeled if anything gm is in the making of products. Laws need tightening.
Mybe generations from today will find gm food is harmful
moping moping I want to keep planet safe for future generations.
Hi james, I agree with you. Some aspects of the GMO process is for the crops to require less water. In places as you've mentioned it can be very beneficial....wave
Hi KN, the problem with the deal is that it will make one enormous sized company, which for small companies like Alltech, they will eat them for lunch. I'm hearing talk that they may have to sell off the seed business to get approvals......I concur.wave
Hi Non, TTIP should scare all of us.....it's being done in a vail of secrecy and undemocratic processes.
Hi Seri, that's so true, as a matter of fact they are offering 62 billion ALL cash. That's unheard of, usually it's a mix of stock and cash....

Yep, Glyphosate, the weed killer and then some.......how can people drink well water when everyone in the neighborhood uses such a toxic chemicaldunno wave
I had no choice, I have a terrible thistle problem. I used straight vinegar and the thistle just thrived. I use Round -up last week and the thistle just thrived. If they could only make crops that have the staying power of the thistle it would be great.....laugh
Yes Dan, the same I just commented to Non aboutwave
Hi Red, labeling is another topic. The Food Industry is so powerful, they won again a few weeks back (here) not to be required to label a GMO product....can't winfrustrated
Sands, thistle (Milk thistle!)can be eaten for liver disorders and many other conditions! Look it up!
What I've learned about weed is that they are actually the true species of super foods,
because they are absolutely indestructible ! We are not paying enough attention to the goods nature is serving us to heal ourselves!
for a moment Seri I thought I was rich.....the milk thistle is good for cats and dogs as well, but unfortunately, my thistle doesn't have that purple flower. When I get some time I have to see which one I have...sad flower
Funny because this is a blog about a pharmaceutical giant like Beyer and we are taught to destroy the natural resources with toxic chemicals they sell us! Irony isn't it?
......Gaia
yeah, now my weeds are the new 'MOTHER OF THEM ALL'laugh
Enjoy your farm Seri, I like big animals & will give the "Kleinvieh" a berth. wave
You are right Red. Legislation & what actually is good for animals & crops - recommendations from official bodies change every couple of years. Glyphosate was deemed harmless for many years (think is on the market for 40 years confused ). Realistically no one knows yet if GM will be a curse or a blessing. conversing
There are lots of mergers in the business, Alltech is the 5th biggest company in that area, the only one privately owned & bought 14 companies since 2011. Bayer & Monsanto are bigger players but has a different product offering.
That was a reply for Sands wave
Hi KN, that's good to hear....so there is hopewave
Hi Hans, do they make anything that kills thistles? wave cheers
Bespoken, that says it all.......wish it wasn't so difficult to implementwave cheers
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