Goodbye Nato - Goodbye world peace.

For some unknown reason huge numbers of people see the EU as cuddly , a bit like the teddy-bear you had as a child, always there when you needed it......... get real doh

The EU is a project to acquire complete undemocratic federal control of Europe, always has been from day one, the British people were duped into joining it back in the 70's by being told it was a common market. Most of the world's population isn't interested in what the EU is up to as they think it doesn't\won't affect them.....think again professor

Britain has been a pain in the arse for the EU for decades, vetoing there excesses, soon Britain won't be there anymore to do that, already the EU is forging ahead with plans for an EU army, that will of course be a nuclear power, this will of course mean the collapse of NATO as many NATO members are also EU members. NATO has kept peace in the world since the last war by the principle "You attack any NATO country you attack them all", in addition Trump has said if he's elected, which looks highly likely as Clinton is rumoured to be dying, he will withdraw the support of NATO from countries not spending 2% of GDP on defence, that's most of them, so either way NATO is a dead organisation walking sad flower

The EU is controlled not by elected MPs as it appears, they're there to rubber stamp the decisions made by unelected commissioners, a shadier bunch you wouldn't want to meet , but ALL the unelected hierarchy have one thing in common when you look at there backgrounds, they have all either worked for or have connections to Goldman Sachs, the last retired President of the commission has just taken a directorship at yes you guessed it Goldman Sachs. Sachs is bank, It's for others to decide what there interest is in controlling the whole of the Europe, and indeed who's behind it dunno
Post Comment

Comments (51)

Best thing we ever did was to get out, will take a couple of years to prove it was the right decision,......cheers
Scotty, I couldn't agree more, but I'm fearful of where the EU, assuming it survives the immigration crisis, will go, I can see this leading to a world economic slump that'll make the last one look like kindergarten play. Also without NATO Europe's defence will be in hands of the EU, I can't begin to imagine how useless that will be, all of America's nuclear missiles will have be withdrawn from Europe, along with these new missile defence installations, one is tempted to think Russia could just walk in, but even more likely would a takeover by Turkey backed by other Muslim countries, at this point I'm glad I've had most of my life, I feel sorry for the kids of today who haven't doh
That wont happen in our life time and they are just pre threats before Brexit,.............cheers
Scotty, what won't happen confused the EU army has been in the planning stage for years & is included in this years budget, all that I've said could happen in the next 6 months\year imo, the survival of the EU has been put squarely in the hands of Turkey with the agreement they hold back immigrants, part of that agreement is visa free travel for Turkey's entire population, as this is not looking likely Turkey has said it will withdraw in October, that's two weeks away, so either way there will be a massive move of non Europeans into Europe before the end of the year. I personally am hoping to live longer than Christmas but then that's out of my hands laugh
Trust me, it wont happen,.....cheers
Both the NATO,and UN foreign ambassadors received DIPLOMATIC immunity.After years of criminal investigations is it any wonder
that it has done more harm than good.Never having any respect
or common decency when aboard is hypocrisy.
If you are tactful,you are diplomatic.Their actions say otherwise, flaunting their immunity as "above the law", Unconscionably.
An International Mafia.
Just like diplomats Ash,.......beer
I won't rehash what Z has blogged.I concur.thumbs up
A dead organ will affect,the other functions over time.In an anology they are the organs thieves,selling to the black market,yelling
I've found the cure.Brutality combined with monetary power.barf
Perpetuation of crimes against humanity.
Ash, thumbs up but I was hoping our American bloggers might care to shed some light on Goldman Sach's involvement in what's happening here dunno
When a new regime topples the predecessor's most symbolic structures,
it claims their ultimate motive is not to assimilate,but annihilate.
We are taught to ignore the obvious and romanticize conquerors.thumbs down Legends,gods of war and wrath.sigh
Ash, I can see what you're saying is true I just can't see the benefit in doing so, surely they must see that all they're doing will make America the most hated place on the planet confused that's hardly conducive to good business practice.
They are beyond the pale,purposefully.I once believed I could have a better understanding of our worlds by joining an international site.
You and others help me to remain hopeful,but more than that you kept
hearts and minds connected too.Thank you friend.handshake
" NATO has kept peace in the world since the last war by the principle "You attack any NATO country you attack them all", in addition Trump has said if he's elected, which looks highly likely as Clinton is rumoured to be dying, he will withdraw the support of NATO from countries not spending 2% of GDP on defence, that's most of them, so either way NATO is a dead organisation walking"

In line of your thinking Z, if in fact it has served its purpose as laid out, then it should be kept and maintained for the same principle as founded.

Below is the core of NATO's purpose:


"NATO’s essential purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of its members through political and military means.

POLITICAL - NATO promotes democratic values and encourages consultation and cooperation on defence and security issues to build trust and, in the long run, prevent conflict.

MILITARY - NATO is committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. If diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military capacity needed to undertake crisis-management operations. These are carried out under Article 5 of the Washington Treaty - NATO’s founding treaty - or under a UN mandate, alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organizations."

If we look at its objective, it serves to underscore aggression by any other country that is not a member but if it eventually dismantled then the real survival of the fittest will rise. Country against any other country and the alliance and or union of any country that will subdue the aggressor will just be done when it happens. Just as the Allies against the Axis.

What I see is a a very unstable world that is skirting any escalation of conflict that will give rise to another global war. Maybe it is a plan all along that is initiated by those of military and economic means?
there will be a massive move of non Europeans into Europe before the end of the year.

This is not new Z. I thought we already covered the migration crisis initiated by Merkel and that it wouldn't stop. The problem is that there is no way of stopping them and all these recent development strengthens the crises even more. With Britain no longer a member of the union, seems likely that there is not abating now or in the future. Is there?
Z I am sorry to inform you that the core of the American politics is well embedded by the blood and glory of the original 13 families that run the Federal REserve of which has all the investment in Europe as well as the whole world.

So saying it in contempt about the Americans should and must not meddle in Europe's business is like telling your own child to stay away from the cake in the cover..

Having said that, we have to understand that the role the US has made in its global relation is not because of the demographic location, these same people as the Goldman Sachs, the Rosenthals and the IMagnin, rule the world Z.
LJ, don't know what went wrong with that mob's control, but America should never have let the internet loose on the world, there's no keeping things quiet with the net rolling on the floor laughing
Yep, you are right on this one Z. But for all its intent, the web is a very neutralizing agent in making all information in the open. To the advantage of those like you and me, of ordinary stature. Before all of the military and political activities of any countries were all kept only to the privileged few, now anyone can know all these. Imagine the power of information Z. It kind of like make us empowered, right?
But going back to the weakening stature of NATO or its eventual dismantling, I am more concerned of the true impact on the world on this move. It means that there is a massive global war that will far supersede and outdo the last second world war. A most scary sight Z. And while we are so focus of the power of Korea and or China, imagine the capability of Saudi Arabia. Has anyone thought of this?
LJ, I did sort of mention that earlier when I talked of Turkey, with the backing of our Muslim countries, walking into Europe without NATO being there to protect it doh
Thanks to America we went into a world finance crisis,..........doh
And it is not surprising why the cozyness of Obama to the muslim world. he was a prince of lies and deceit to have carved into American consciousness about the weakening of our military power to serve his agenda of serving the objective of all muslim countries.
Ash, I agree, and yes the USA is rich in resources etc, I don't see it as beyond redemption but no country can live as we do now without trade with others, I'm sure nobody wants to go back living in the dark ages uh oh it's only the will of the population that can overcome this dominance of the few over the masses, it will come but how much damage will be done in the mean time dunno

As was seen in the recent vote in the UK, all the resources chucked at keeping Britain in EU proved fruitless, the people saw right through the BS & voted to get out.
Exactly Z, what country would be dumb enough to turn away orders from another country and not be able to buy in return, cut your nose off to spite your face springs to mind,........beer
LJ, despite what the controlled media may have us believe here in Europe a vast number can see where this immigration is leading & the people are making moves to stop it, Hungary for example has a referendum coming up very shorty to decide whether to defy the EU & refuse to take any in.
I am aware of that Z. If infact there is a unity among all those that refuse to take these immigrants in, how would they go on stopping them now? Create border? Kill all those that keep on coming from the sea?
Thanks Z.Be well.teddybear from my family to yours
Going back to your vocalized truth of why there is a perennial conflict of those who are muslims against the non muslim Z. It is imperative for one to think as to what is it and why is it such a conflicting matter? Of course as far as the muslims are concerned, they feel obligated to calipate the world. What is it to us? That is the question. Isn't it? More importantly, who is truly invading who and who is truly causing harm to who?

Scotty you hear?
Ash, ok I'm with you thumbs up all the more reason to get together & fight it now while you still can.
Im going to depart this blog but I respect all of your views and opinions and cheers to you all and have a good day/evening,....peace
Scotty, I've got to laugh that you assume this guy is German laugh you're quite right of course he is rolling on the floor laughing but I certainly wouldn't assume all Germans were, I have German friends here & they don't talk to him either laugh
Z,...rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing cheers
That is a fact Scotty yet can't be proven either. We never know when they turn around, and that is the crux of the problem. But for people to be so devoted to even just the way they wear clothes, imagine every single chance of change that come upon them, they'd say..Hell no!frustrated
Like getting a Kardashian to wear wool.(my skin,my skin)rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
So - what do we do?
I mean you've made quite a leap and wiped out NATO

and pointed fingers in directions I am too politically challenged to understand

and it all sounds very alarming

are you just reporting or is there something that can be done?

if just reporting, I shall take up my famous imitation of an ostrich laugh
Z okay, you got my vote so far.
Bif, we've passed civil laugh I totally agree an EU army with Junker, he'll probably give himself a military commission doh so General Junker, in charge will be a complete shambles, but I beg of everyone is not to bury there heads in the sand, that's what they're relying on doh

Just coming back to the ttip agreement, we don't for sure what's in cos it's secret, how the hell can we object to something we don't know about, fortunately the EU being the leaky old barge it is we have a have a good idea, taking two of I think 27 points, the EU will agree to the privatisation of all Europe's public services, that's things like the NHS in Britain, America will in effect be able to buy it outright & sell the service back to the government, point two, it will allow American corps that have invested in Europe to sue any government that in it's opinion reduces there profits by a change of government policy, say the USA has bought all of the nuclear power stations in the UK & there was an accident, so the UK government decides nuclear power is too dangerous, the American company can sue the UK for loss of profits they may have made, despite the fact it would be there power that blew up, that's a bad example really but there are already such agreements in place & several European governments are currently being sued for loss of profits. Big pharma is especially interested in being able to sue when a government decides it's drug is too expense cost for benefit.
Z.....a total loony loser cow has written a blog about you......obviously with 'no comments'.....
Jazz, I was just reading that? What a bash, I tell you...
Post Comment - Let others know what you think about this Blog.
Meet the Author of this Blog
zmountainmanonline today!

zmountainman

Motril, Andalusia, Spain

Originally from the UK I retired & moved to Spain 20 years ago, whilst it's not paradise it's probably as close as I'll ever come to it, living on a mountain with the sea in front & mountains behind & 320 days of sunshine a year. Still reasonably fit [read more]

About this Blog

created Sep 2016
2,261 Views
Last Viewed: 22 hrs ago
Last Commented: Sep 2016
zmountainman has 107 other Blogs

Like this Blog?

Do you like this Blog? Why not let the Author know. Click the button to like the Blog. And your like will be added. Likes are anonymous.

Feeling Creative?