When will it stop !...the muslim questions

For the last 30 days or so there has been little blogs about muslims and terror.

When will people look back at history to see why we are where we are, and who is really at fault ? Oil. That is what the modern Middle Eastern geopolitics have usually been about. Given the vast energy resources that form the backbone of western economies, influence and involvement in the Middle East has been of paramount importance for the former and current imperial and super powers, including France, Britain, USA and the former Soviet Union.

Prior to the discovery of oil, the region had been a hotbed for religious conflict and wars over other rich resources and land. The declining Ottoman Empire paved way for the rising European imperial and colonial powers interested in securing various territories and controlling access to Asia. In more recent times, interest in the region has been due to the energy resources there.

As a result, for centuries, western populations have been acclimatized to a type of propaganda and vilification of the Arab and other people of the Middle East, and of Islam in general. This was especially so during the European colonial times, as so vividly examined by Edward Said, in his well-respected book, Orientalism. This negative stereotyping has served to provide justifications for involvement and to ensure stability for the national interests of the powers that want to be involved in the region.

This cultural stereotyping and racism has occurred in the modern times too. Often, especially in the 1980s, war films depicting an Arab or Islamic group as the bad guys were common place, sometimes reflecting prevailing turmoils at the time. Even in the 1990s, those ideas continued, where the bad guy was often a despotic Arab from one of the rogue states and as a result of the terrorist attacks against the US in September 11, 2001 and the resulting War on terror, such imagery is likely to continue. Over such a long time then, such boundaries of discourse about the Middle East have already been framed. To overstep those boundaries is to be labeled anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, anti-West or some other equally negative label. For most journalists in the mainstream then, self-censorship is often the course, sometimes unknowingly.

To maintain superiority, control and influence over the region, the West has placed corrupt Arab leaders into positions of power and supported the overthrow of those that are not seen as favorable. This has also served to keep their populations at bay, in return for militarization, power and personal wealth of the elite. Sometimes this has been done in the name of fighting communism. The common theme underlying it though has been the struggle to control access to important resources such as oil.

The Middle East is the most militarized region in the world and most arms sales head there. A suppressed people that sees US influence as a major root cause of the current problems in the Middle East has led to a rise in Islamic militancy, acts of terrorism and anti-west sentiment, anti-US in particular. When looking at some of the actions of the US, it can often be seen why this is unfortunately so.

Comments (20)

..so wake up,hold onto direct your hate, dislike, what ever you want to call it, and just look over the fence at the other and what they have to say for once.

if your kid comes home and says I've been bullied and a bruised face, do you go round and smash that kid in the face ? or do you get their side of the story? just to see if your kid has lied, so he don't get in trouble ..confused
Follow the money.......
The ultimate depiction of Arabs as bad guys...

*What* was done...

YouTube - NOSED OUT simonshack

*How* it was done...

YouTube The Great American Psy-Opera 07 - The Key CollinAlexander

It is my opinion the shot from Fox News Chopper 5, taken by Kai Simonsen, was deliberately set up to go out as it did.
If so, Mr. Simonsen is a true hero.

The Psy-Opera vid is 45 minutes long. The first 15 minutes or so are all you need watch to get the gist.

What a difference a hundred years makes...

YouTube Blood and Oil, The Middle East in World War I

sad flower

The bitter lake..Adam Curtis.
The Bitter Lake...

I took a brief look. Seems like a good watch!

It's true to say that Islam would not even be the minor to moderate force it is today without the oil. Hard Islam was nearly finished 100 years ago. Black gold gave them the money and Israel gave them the focal point of all their hatreds: hating Israel and getting rich by literally standing still and going nowhere has been a boon to Islamic conservatism. 50/60 years ago you could get away with saying all kinds of things you couldn't today in a land such as Egypt.
Sounds a fair assessment to me thumbs up
Buddy..but in goes hand in hand..the industrial world and our countries would be nothing without the oil to run our cars, ships, planes, industry, power stations, whilst we have the knowledge to create, the oil the Arabs have, gives them money to buy our goods, one cannot be without the other.
I am just reading the first part of your post Ian, and maybe you are completely right. But that is only in the beginning of the 80s. Why don't we go further down and read Sept. 11, 1846?

That is the day that the publication of the calipation order of the Muslim leaders have started.

Now, you very well know that at the current situation, there is always a justifiable reasons why we, the Americans got involved in the Middle East. At least I know as I remember the reason why we declared war against Iraq. That was when it attacked Kuwait. We had to get involved because of the holdings of oil asset there. Now should have it not happened, I don't know maybe there is no war at all.

When Iraq was finally done, guess what happened. They abandoned that place which gave rise to the creation of ISIS. Now you know where it is going from there.

Now with Syria, it is claimed that Assad is protecting these terrorists.

So it is continued to be a mess.

Do you have a solution? If you do, I hope it works.
I do like your example Ian. Let us all hear what they have to say.

Now I have another question to ask you.

Apparently the Muslims, also are killing their fellow muslims, is that true? The Shia against the Sunnis?

Not that it bears any weight to your post, just that I thought it is interesting because I always thought the muslims hate us so much and therefore doing all the terrorism and kill us.
Do you know what history is dead and gone, thank goodness so is slavery and cannibalism.

Todays world loves labels so Christians, Muslims, Catholics Jews, etc etc all have people who hate and want to kill under a banner. Even Athiests, agnostics, priests, BUT in todays world we have to be very careful whom we trust.

Close the gates and start again with new policies that fit the times.

What was Brexit ? Part of it was immigration from where ever without checks or the need for skills in our country.
Just said in a different way then stop all immigration.

We in our country have had demos about Trumps statement, people love demos our country did not have 9/11 where afterwards politicans did nothing to stop it happening again. Did we see people jump out of burning building, These pictures will for ever stick in my mind something must happen to stop it happening again but you must know your terrorists first, they blend in very well, so innocents get caught up in the foray.

Yes iraq left room for these evil groups so lessons are being learnt we cant take back deeds that have been done but they can be put right. Lets hope Trump does that and not end up just like all the others.
"but you must know your terrorists first, they blend in very well, so innocents get caught up in the foray."

That is the hardest thing to do Red. As you remember the San Bernardino case, born here in my country, guess what, he chose to go get married to a Pakistani with history of terrorism and bam wreak havoc at a very unsuspecting crowd. Now knowing exactly who they are is the biggest and most important part to avoid all these killings. That is why I believe Trump would rather ban all the possible countries where they most likely to come from.

I do hope that he would do a good job in stopping all these terrorism. Then our world will rest.

Iraq fought a ware against iran, helped and funded by Kuwait and saudi, and approved by the US..after the war any many deaths both sides,around 1 million, Kuwait wanted iraq to pay back the money !..Saddam said..are you kidding ! I fought this war on your behalf, and proxy war on behalf of the US.

Saddam asked the US to get involved, they washed there hands of it. What Kuwait did next was to drill oil from underneath Iraqi soil, and increase its production, lowering the price of the barrel, nearly bankrupting Iraq.

Thats why Saddam went into Kuwait, then this jumped up story that Iraq caused 911..Now Saddam has gone its a total mess...Answer your question ?
Well Ian based on your story, it does seem like the whole thing was all started by both ME countries. My question, if US wouldn't have been involved, as being counseled upon by these countries, what would have happened?

At least we now know that the major countries who started it all are both Middle East.

Now I am sure the US stake on these oil was high at that time.

But look at that syphoning the oil underneath. What a story.
Actually the Iraq Iran war was given the green light by the US...Iran was sleeping with what was going on there, the intelligence given to Iraq was by the US..so the US started it because their chosen leader of Iran..the Shah had been kicked out...the US wanted to control the oil again...
The friends,of,America,at the time, and,saddam was, did nothing without the US saying yes..
Hi Ian wave

There is a long and deep story for this subject ,can't be mentioned in one statement .
Yes Ali but history going over and over it will not solve today's problems sadly. Mistakes bad ones made, now we must try to solve todays problems hug
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