feminism
I wanted to post a comment on the most recent feminism blog, but I see the comments had been disabled. Let it be known, I will not attack anyone on their personal opinions and perceptions. I don't see a productive furthering the discussion of a serious topic if we are in a sense intimidating others from contributing.The videos the previous blogger posted have very valid points that were being made and I encourage others on checking out what is being said.
The exact anger and frustrations that men may currently feel are the exact same emotions that drove women to take the extreme stances they have today. I feel there is no constructive and mutually beneficial way in becoming more understanding of each other if we are going to perpetuate these negative behaviors.
But...that is just my thoughts...
Anyway, the comment I wanted to make on his blog was:
Last night, a buddy and I went out. We were both standing by the bar and a woman and her friend came up to the bar next to my buddy. From what I think I know about women, now days, a lot of women need to give you the green light to approach them. (maybe I was informed wrongly). But, my buddy is more the traditional guy. He just went ahead and tried to talk to them. Boy, did he get an ear full. *&%^ off, why you talking to me you #%$#...the lady started screaming at him.
Just today, I seen two younger women broke down with their car. Granted I seen that while I was driving by the parking lot...they seemed to be confused/perhaps stuck on what to do.
I just wonder if they were maybe not waiting for a man to show up to help them?
My thought was...after these relatively two current situations that I personally witnessed....Is it that men are only good to women when they are needed? I hear it a lot, I only want a man around when I want them around....some women say.
Not to mention...I am sure some of you were waiting for my input.
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Some love men, some don't. Some are b1tches, some aren't. Some welcome the help of men and their knowledge, some don't.
I could go on, but I'm sure you get the idea,
I know my limitations. I know I can't lift very heavy things, I know I can't do certain DIY jobs, etc. I will be the first to admit I am extremely thankful for the help of men in those circumstances. And am lucky to have good ones who willingly help me.
But then I will help them with things that they may not be good at. That's the way the world goes around.
If there are some women who don't appreciate men, then just say 'adios ' to them, and move on.
When I do I also tell them to read my profile..and also my blogs...as this is what I wrote in my profile.
If a man can't be bothered to read and quote something I said in order to show some interest...then I can't be bothered to reply either!
You've also got to wonder how many women has he approached with the same line???
You surely know I was joking with my comment.
It was just for fun.
I haven't watched any videos on the blog you mentioned so i can only imagine the
Women are woman's worst enemy and i don't care who argues differ till the cows come home but anyways thats my view on it just the same.
Johnny, thanks for picking up where goof nut's blog let off. He deleted a comment I made so it must have hit a bit too close to home
Things work best when there is cooperation rather than competition. I believe that most women see cooperation as natural. For the women who have decided that they need to morph into male like personalities? Well, I don't know anything about them or what they are thinking.
I resonate with the idea of "equitable division of labor" and the win/win. Don't much care which gender is involved
I appreciate you bringing up the subject. It is also a subject that I have talked a lot about. I have never watched any videos or really looked into what others have written about it. But, I have just spoke about what I have seen. It is refreshing to see some women pointing out similar and other inequities men face in today's society. Who knows, with the wider spread the extreme feminist movement grows, it could spell real threats to society as we have known it.
I know that is the point of feminist, to change society as we have known it. I am talking about perhaps the demise of it completely. Again, I don't know.
Thanks for sharing the videos. I have not watched them all and intend on watching more of them.
You know what I think about women Molly?
Well, here it is. First off, I think like you. There are all different types out there. When I am around women, I just be myself. I have learned and genuinely accepted life as I live it. I enjoy myself....and if, along the trail of this life I am living, a Ms. happens to open her door to me, we will just see where that path takes us. Until then, they can be as hating or loving as they want to be. I am still happy.
But I will do some blogging about it though.
I was curious on how a child grows into an adult from a single parent family.
Robert:
Not a true comment from you?
You would not gain much from the videos with that mindset.
Thank you for your comment, it is nice to see you around. Hope all is well with you.
I was curious on how a child grows into an adult from a single parent family.
Hi johnny,I can fully understand us women having the right to vote and getting paid equal pay as a man providing that the women can do the very same exact job that men can do.
I'm not the least bit afraid to admit that there were/are some jobs that men could/can do better than me and I didn't expect equal pay anyhow.
Women have it a lot easier today than women had long ago and they still aren't grateful.
I agree with Itchywitchs post about how women are their own worst enemies.
That would be interesting to hear from some extreme feminist to see what they think. From watching videos, it sounds like they are just pretty much angry people.
Maybe we are just giving this feminism thing way too much attention and credit and nobody really is a feminist?
Good to hear from you.
....that is what I wonder. In traditional days, children had their role models in the house with both parents. Now it is in many cases one parent in two different households or just outright one parent where they spend their time in daycare while that one parent is out working. I am curious as to what that will do with the up and coming generations. ....think we are seeing some results in the current newest young adult generation of today.
@johnny,Obviously the Traditional days are totally gone and have been gone for a long long time.
Kids aren't raised anymore not in the traditional ways.They are mainly raised by sitters.
I doubt if there are any traditional households left.
I think my multitasking days are over.
I was agreeing with Itchy that women are our own worst enemies. Not enough supportive energy. Too much competitive energy.
So, it would be unfair to ask you if you have a snap on if you are all woman.
No need to answer that.
No problems, really. Just annoyances.
Since you're a great story writer I thought you would be good at charming the ladies and could write more than one sentence in an email to attract her attention.
Johnny. ..I'm glad to see from the comments that there are still women who love men and enjoy having them around and also have such values.
Any act that puts anyone to a disadvantage is not a mark of social progression for humanity. It's my perception and conclusion that this movement is a mark of progress for all.
This world is far better by eliminating the excess that women assert because of this right.
I just have a moment here before I need to head out.
First of all, I would like to thank you for sharing your point of view. Your point of view I agree with 100%. From reading it once, I would not change a single word you used.
However, the only issue I have with it is that it does not really address the changes in society that the message of feminism is giving. The feminist movement is providing a message to women and how they should perceive their place in the world.
Depending on what feminist message you listen to, this will determine just exactly how moderate or how extreme your position should be.
Maybe I am biased because I am a man.
I think this is the concern about feminism. Again, the videos that (free) shared have some good information.
That is really the overall point of this blog.
Again, what you say is perfectly put in my opinion and spot on.
Thanks.
Thank you for sharing your point of view. From what I see, there are a lot of valid statements you put forward. I think the danger might be polarization between the genders. That would be a shame.
I do see where you do not condone the extreme spectrum of feminism...
But, I think it is possible that some of these, in my opinion, negative extremes could slip into the perceptions of some women who are still perpetuating the feminist message.
I did get a chance to read your responses on the other blog.
That is very reassuring that you are very well able to make up your mind about your beliefs. Although I have no absolute proof, but I almost wonder if the teachings and ultimately instilled behaviors that the extremist form of feminism is not like the boiling of water with the frog in the pan. But from what I have seen personally, there are many instances where the younger generation seems to be taking things to near extremes. Maybe the up and coming generation may take things to the next level.
Anyway, I appreciate your thoughts and sharing them. They are very well founded and grounded. :)
With that elected Polish gov. official, that is really uncalled for, in my opinion. That is just not a great message to foster family cohesion.....any countless other aspects of humanity.
And using what criteria?
It's just i want to get a head start and get my quota in before my holidays.
Maybe you can start with feeding us spam. Ruin our health...or is that stuff healthy?
I don't know, that is what that lady was saying in one of the videos. She noted how an early notable feminist of the late '60's wrote about that. Perhaps we can try and contact her.
It's not nor ever was in the contention of original plans on elevating the rights of women to be in the extreme. Those videos are and excess that doesn't do justice to anyone. They are not my kind of feminism. It implies over bearing and unpleasant position that completely defies the goals to promote women's regignition as equal to men.
We've gone so far and achieve such a colossal success. I, as a woman can only be grateful and thankful.
SR
With the example of the Polish MEP I simply wanted to show that there are people with extreme opinions out there that shouldn’t have any place in society. I have no doubt that some guys might have the same opinion, but that doesn’t mean that they are getting somewhere and this attitude is changing society. I have read about it, but it is not something I have lost any sleep about.
What do you think you will be achieving with writing constantly blogs about how terrible feminism is? I never have heard of any of these people that are mentioned, and the last thing I would do would be listening to something like that.
Is that a behaviour that helps you meeting a person to build up a meaningful relationship?
Indeed, feminism has brought some wonderful things in today's society for women.
Thanks SR.
Very good point, there are extremist on opposite ends of the spectrum. I am surprised you ladies have not started a blog about that yet.
Well, possibly in very short time L.L., feminism might be the least of our worries with old DT.