Mystery, Intrigue and a Miracle

Friday the 13th will be the 100th anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima's 6th and final appearance to the 3 children of Fatima, Portugal.

Fatima, Portugal in the year 1917 began what is now known as the 'Miracle at Fatima' Three children ages 7-10 were the recipients of the Blessed Virgin Mary apparitions. There were 6 Apparitions in total and they began on May 13th and followed each 13th of the month until the final one on October 13th.
In the 3rd Apparition Blessed Mary stated the 'Three Secrets of Fatima:

In the 6th and final Apparition the Blessed Virgin Mary performed the miracle she said she would in the 3rd Apparition: As the miracle for the crowd began on Oct 13, 1917, the heavy rain-filled clouds suddenly parted and the people could stare at the sun without hurting their eyes. Then the sun began to spin in place and gave off different colors; first red, then green, then blue and each color fell on the people.
The sun stopped and started spinning again two more times,faster and with more beautiful colors. The sun then zigzagged like a yo-yo in the sky and finally started to fall, plunging toward the earth.
The witnesses thought this larger and hotter sun would burn and crush them, and then the world would end. In fear, they fell on their knees in the mud and cried to God for mercy, begging Our Lady for Her intercession and prayers.
At least 70,000 verified theses changes that day, including Atheists and Agnostics. What happened next also proved that what they saw was NOT a mass hallucination or even a natural weather phenomenon, because as often happens and we expect the worst--especially when things are already going badly- God granted a great good, just preternatural.



Saint Francisco de Jesus Marto (11 June 1908 – 4 April 1919), his sister Saint Jacinta de Jesus Marto (11 March 1910 – 20 February 1920) and their cousin Lúcia Santos (1907–2005)



The crowd of 70,000 showed up for the 6th Apparition


Comments (63)

seaworthy
The first secret was 'The vision of Hell'.."The rays of light seemed to penetrate the earth, and we (the three children) saw as it were a sea of fire. Plunged in this fire were demons and souls in human form, like transparent burning embers, all blackened or burnished bronze, floating about in the conflagration, now raised into the air by the flames that issued from within themselves together with great clouds of smoke, now following back on every side like sparks in huge fires, without weight or equilibrium, amid shrieks and groans of pain and despair, which horrified us and made us tremble with fear. (it must have been this sight which caused me to cry out, as people say they heard me do). The demons could be distinguished by their terrifying and repellent likeness to frightful and unknown animals, black and transparent like burning coals. terrified and as if to plead for succor, we looked up at Our Lady, who said to us, so kindly and so sadly:"
seaworthy
The second secret was:
This war will end WW I, but if men do not refrain from offending God, another and more terrible war will begin during the pontificate of Pius XI. When you see a night that is lit by a strange and unknown light [this occurred on January 28, 1938], you will know it is the sign God gives you that He is about to punish the world with war and with hunger, and by the persecution of the Church and the Holy Father.

To prevent this, I shall come to the world to ask that Russia be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart, and I shall ask that on the First Saturday of every month Communions of reparation be made in atonement for the sins-of the world. If my wishes are fulfilled, Russia will be converted and there will be peace; if not, then Russia will spread her errors throughout the world, bringing new wars and persecution of the Church; the good will be martyred and the Holy Father will have much to suffer; certain nations will be annihilated. But in the end my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and the world will enjoy a period of peace. In Portugal the faith will always be preserved
seaworthy
The 3rd secret is the most intriguing has it has led to major controversy in the Vatican, with many books being written. In 1960 the Vatican issued a press release stating that it was "most probable the Secret would remain, forever, under absolute seal." This announcement produced considerable speculation over the content of the secret. According to the New York Times, speculation ranged from "worldwide nuclear annihilation to deep rifts in the Roman Catholic Church that lead to rival papacies." On 2 May 1981, Laurence James Downey hijacked an airplane and demanded that Pope John Paul II make public the Third Secret of Fatima. On May 13, 1982, Pope John Paul II asked in his sermon, “Can the Mother with all the force of the love that She fosters in the Holy Spirit and desires everyone’s salvation, can She remain silent when She sees the very basis of Her children’s salvation undermined?” The Pope then answered his own question, “No, She cannot remain silent.” Here the Pope himself tells us that the Fatima Message concerns Our Lady’s warning that the foundation of our salvation is being undermined. Then, on May 13, 2000, the Pope in his sermon during the beatification ceremony warned the faithful to beware of the tail of the dragon, and he cited Chapter 12 verses 3 and 4 of the Book of the Apocalypse. The Book of the Apocalypse, Chapter 12 verse 4 speaks of the tail of the dragon sweeping one-third of the stars from heaven, which is commonly understood to mean one-third of the Catholic Clergy
miclee
TONIGHT on the Coast To Coast AM radio program...

Schedule for October 11, 2017 - October 13, 2017

Fatima Miracle/Occult & Magic -
Wednesday, October 11, 2017 pointing

Hosted by George Noory
Guest(s): L. A. Marzulli, Lon Milo DuQuette

First Half: Researcher L.A. Marzulli will discuss his new work on Fatima. He'll describe the events which unfolded on October 13, 1917 and witnessed by 70,000 people in a field in Fatima, Portugal and why they remain controversial 100 years later.

...The program starts 12:00 a.m. CDT (05:00 GMT, I think).

If y'all can't get it on a radio station, I think it can be streamed @ the Coast To Coast AM website.

Could be interesting. And informative.

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cowboy
seaworthy
Mr Miclee, thanks, it should be interesting, unfortunately, I won't be able to listen to the report. If you do, keep us informed of any earth shattering revelations, tip hat
capricorn62
Very interestingwine
ashlander
Mr.Seaworthy did the word secret has a special significance, instead of prophecy or visions.?
miclee
Coast To Coast -

Mr. Marzulli based his research pprimarily, if not solely, upon the earliest accounts of the event - those of the children & local clerics/magistrates.
He concluded that much of what we 'know' of it was added in later recounts in the 20s and after.
Among the additions were the Three Secrets.

He also claimed that the children didn't claim that the apparition was that of Mary, but a 'lady'. When asked whence she came, they simply pointed up.

The description of the event as 'The Miracle Of The Sun' originated in the account of a Lisbon reporter, and that name (Mazulli called it a misnomer) has stuck for a hundred years.

A local Catholic priest of the time was of the opinion that it demonic in origin. Shortly thereafter he disappeared without a trace; his whereabouts remain unknown.

Many first-hand accounts relate that the lights and other phenomena emanated from a silvery disc or orb.
The object was variously described as disc or orb shaped depending upon the vantage point of the witness.

The lights played upon the crowd; several persons later reported a sunburn-like burn afterwards.
Marzulli speculated that such effects would today be described as radiation burns.

Witnesses reported anomalous phenomena regarding vehicles in the area - shattered glass windows, failure of engines to start, exploded batteries.

His conclusion - the phenomena were consistent with what would today be recognized as a UFO encounter.
He tended to agree with the assessment of the missing priest that the event may have been demonic in origin.

He also pointed out that reports of the events and interpretations of the reports have been controversial for a hundred years - and will likely remain so.

(Plenty of fodder there for the tinfoil hatters, eh? tinfoil hat )
laugh

cowboy
Annleerose
Satan has blind the mines of the unbeliever and even the very elect would be deceived, for those of you who believe this.
Annleerose
Satan has blind the mines of the unbeliever and even the very elect would be deceived, for those who want to believe that
seaworthy
Ms Capricorn, Yes, very interesting, especially when the local anticlerical liberal newspaper editor wrote, everything they say is true and correct. What has become more of interest is the cover-up/misinformation of the 3rd secret, which I will post info on a little later today.
seaworthy
Mr Miclee, everything I've read doesn't support those theories, especially the UFO one. Remember, Our Lady said in the 3rd Apparition which would have been July 13th that there would be a miracle in October, that's why there were 70k ppl there. Now, the UFO theory is absurd as well as the 'Dancing Sun' was seen from 40 kilometers away, and no one reported seeing any kind of eclipse.thanks for sharing their comments.
seaworthy
Ms annleerose, when I get time later I will post what I believe to have been the correct 3 Rd secret and that will tie in to the corruption we are experiencing in the Papacy today.
seaworthy
Ms ashlader, I could only think that the word secret would be a word a child would use vs using the word prophecy. Hey I never knew the word prophecy until I saw some of Mr Stringmans videos. laugh
miclee
Mr. Marzulli did say the event was, is, and likely will remain controversial.
I presume we can all agree on that. handshake

Note that he did not say there were no secrets, only that they were included in Lucia's later recounts of the event - beginning around 1928 if I remember correctly.
There may be reasons why she and Jacinta did not speak of them earlier, or possibly that they had mentioned them but the information was excluded in original 'official' renderings of her account.

I've also read that the event was noticeable from some distance.
Aerial phenomena taking place at, say, 3,000 m (10,000 ft.) could be reasonably assumed to be detectable some 40 km (25 miles) distant.
I know by timing the difference between a lightning flash and the accompanying thunderclap that lightning can be detected from a similar distance.

Some other points -
He reported the the lady communicated non-verbally with the children - telepathically.
Only the children could see the lady, and only the girls received the non-verbal communications from her; Francisco did not.
He further claimed that such a method of communication is consistent with reports of people claiming to have had contact with entities associated with UFOs.

Interestingly, he claimed that the children described the lady attired in a skirt that reached just below her knees.
This was unusual - even scandalous - in that time & place as respectable women were expected to wear dresses extending to their ankles.
Women who wore hemlines such as the children described would've been considered significantly less than respectable or prostitutes.
Curious. confused

Looking forward to you further info regarding the 3rd Secret.

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cowboy
miclee
daydreamThis blog will have the tinfoil hat types showing up soon. I feel it coming.

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cowboy
seaworthy
Mr miclee, can't get into detals, but Lucia was told by Our Lady to keep the secrets, but when she became a nun and was asked by the then Bishop (Lierin) sp she could not disobey a direct order.
miclee
BTW - I've heard some sources (not Mr. Marzulli) note that the event took place in Fatima and that the city shares its name with Mohammed's daughter.
I've also heard it asserted that Muslims are visiting the site.

Some speculate that this is somehow "the lady's" endorsement of a union of Christianity & Islam...Chrislam.

That sounds like quite a stretch to me...roll eyes
dunno

cowboy
miclee
More on the 'Fatima/Islam Connection', including a perspective from Bishop Sheen in 1952...



dunno

cowboy
stringman
Johnny_Sparton
Sounds UFO-ish to me also.

I am not sure how the calendar works. Is that normal, for every 100 years the date and day of the week lines up perfectly like that?

Otherwise...Friday the 13 in 1917 and Friday the 13 in 2017 seems a bit interesting. dunno
Johnny_Sparton
so you were right Mic....the tinfoils were indeed coming. laugh
Johnny_Sparton
just as something else too...

Like Ash mentioned in another blog, the Annunakis.

The ancient Sumarian text aligns up quiet well with the Bible.


*However you spell Sumarian.
dunno
lindsyjones
Sea, a very interesting story.

I believe and messages come in many forms. wine
miclee
seaworthy
There is so much controversy about this 3rd secret, I found what I believe is the true 3 rd secret, because I have studied the situation: "Also, a news article quoted former Philippine ambassador to the Vatican, Howard Dee, as saying that Cardinal Ratzinger had personally confirmed to him that the messages of Akita and Fátima are "essentially the same." The Akita prophecy, in part, contains the following: "The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. … churches and altars sacked .

It's happening before our eyes; Father James Martin, a Jesuit Priest, appointed by Antipope Francis has declared "“project of outreach to LGBT Catholics.” Four other Bishops support his thoughts, The “additional church leaders (who) have also lent their support for Fr. Martin’s project of outreach to LGBT Catholics” are Cardinal Blase Cupich of Chicago; Bishop Jon Stowe of Lexington, Kentucky; Archbishop John Wester of Santa Fe, New Mexico; retired Archbishop Joseph Fiorenza of Galveston-Houston; and Bishop Patrick Dunn of Auckland, New Zealand.

A priest in Dublin, Ireland during Mass told the congregation he is gay. There is no stronger harm then being a sodomite priest representing his congregation...none.. The Vatican is full of sodomites, (well known), they go into town and hit the bar scene no different from other gay men. Since the 2nd Vatican council in 1962 (a failed council) Satan has entered the Curia of the Vatican and is slowly destroying Catholicism. I believe this is why the 3 rd secret took so many years until being revealed, and even then was massaged......no one wanted to shine the light on the Curia. But, now the second in command George Pell, top Antipope advisor has been charged with s*xual assault offenses.

Pope Francis earlier this year ordered Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, the top doctrinal watchdog in the Roman Catholic Church, to fire three priests from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which is the keeper of the church’s orthodoxy and presides over investigations into s*xual abuse. These priests were all conservatives or one could say anti-liberal. The cover-ups have started, but it will all come out sooner than later.
seaworthy
Mr miclee, good links, I guess you won't have to travel far to reach your pilgrimagelaugh
seaworthy
Ms lindseyjones, sure, a little Faith can go a real long way
seaworthy
Mr johhny_sparton....Johnny, Johnny, Johnny....70,000 ppl did not get it wrong, it was not a UFO. Remember, Mary told the children that there would be a miracle in Oct. I don't think she was referring to an UFOlaugh
seaworthy
Mr stringman, I had to write-off LA Marzulli. After listening to most the video he states that Mary is not the Queen of the universe...had to go!!!!
seaworthy
Someone sent me this, thought I would share:

As the Miracle of the Sun unfolded for 70,000 people on Oct 13th, 1917, we must realize that many non-believers in the crowd were converted after they saw what happened. Consider the testimony of Dr. Almeida Garrett, an atheist science professor who confirmed all aspects of the miracle and said kept its light and heat while standing out in the sky as a very clear disc with a sharp gleaming edge. He was also amazed people could stare at the sun for a long time without any eye pain or damage.

Alvelino de Almeida the Masonic editor-in-chief of the Lisborn newspaper, O Seculo hated the church and came to mock the witnesses,but he was also amazed at what he saw, describing this event as a unique and incredible spectacle that he would not of believed unless he saw it for himself. He then wrote the truth in the Lisbon newspaper instead of distorting the Faith as usual.

Virtually everyone who witnessed these events regarded them as miraculous, including those who described themselves as non-believer or atheists before coming that day. Many more testimonies from both local residents and tourists can be read in several good books that record what the witnesses saw:



Duromojon
why these kids told them watch for the Russians.

when it was Germany invading everyone confused
Duromojon
and the so called the 3rd secret. really, the attempt to kill the pope in 1982?

that was the secret? guarded for so many years? people, I, was expecting the

big kaboomcool
ashlander
Well you could not blame Mary's forewarning children of molestations in the church.The devil can not penetrate souls,our truth and light . Becoming a nun, historically occurred for many reasons,some so sorrowful they were later sainted
stringman
seaworthy
Mr stringman, very interesting video, more than I surmised, but not what I felt deep inside as the 'probable' scenario....thanks...I guess sad
miclee
Today (Oct. 25)
12:00 am CDT
05:00 GMT

Coast to Coast AM
wwwCoast to Coast AM

'Update on Fatima from the Catholic perspective.'

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cowboy
miclee
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cowboy
capricorn62
How long till it is revealed?
Waiting another 100years from nowdunno
miclee
The 'secrets' have all been revealed, cap. grin
I won't say what they are because I'd probably not get it quite right.
You may search the subject.

I'll say that they dealt quite a bit with the ending of WWI, another future and even lsrger war, Russia and its future (in 1917) atheistic regime & such things.
The interviewee (Fr. Sean Connelly, if I heard it right) was interesting & well informed.
He presented the Catholic perspective well.
Both he & L.A. Marzulli agreed on the basic description of what occurred (see also the OP roll eyes ).
They differed in their interpretation of the events.

The host asked about the possibility of a hoax.
Fr. Connelly cited secular newspapers of the time that were openly dismissive of the event during the lead up to it.
The papers assigned reporters to document the 'superstitious' goings on that had 'become an embarrassment' to Portugal.
The reporters stated in subsequent article that something extraordinary - 'formidable' - had, in fact, taken place.
He opined that it would've been difficult, if not impossible, to stage a hoax of such magnitude & proportions.

In a previous program (see above roll eyes ) L.A. Mszulli claimed the lady wore a knee length garment.
Fr. Connelly claimed her mantle came to her knees; her robe/dress extended to her ankles.
That makes sense to me.
The knee length thing sounded a bit strange...confused

cowboy

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