Killer flu - a warning

In 1918 Spanish flu swept the world, killing an estimated 50 million people.

100 years later, Aussie flu (as it is called except in the US) is knocking people down like ninepins. Some aren’t getting up.

We live in an age where exaggeration is rife, everything is the biggest and the best and the worst, so when people say this is the next Spanish flu, well, take everything said with a pinch of salt. Whatever you call it, it is a type A influenza, H3N2, bad news.

This isn’t usual flu. It isn’t even man flu. It’s worse.

In the US it has become the most widespread in 12 years, affecting all but 2 states (as at 2 days ago) and has officially been declared an epidemic. It has been spreading in the UK and Europe for a bit longer, and the mutating virus is becoming more serious.

H3N2 flu has been around since late 2017 but it won't go away and is spreading worldwide. Some doctors are treating with antibiotics, others say it is mutating so fast that antibiotics won’t help.

Don’t tough it out. Those with bad cases couldn't go out if they wanted to, they are too weak, but keep warm, take plenty of liquids, treat the symptoms and don’t push yourself. This one is bad.
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Good morning Biff! wave

Well.... I´ve been in contact with the "virus" many times and haven´t got it. In fact, I haven´t had the flu for years- applause

I have such a strong anti-virus that nothing will attack me! Not even a man! laugh
I usually get the 'feel bad or miserable' symtoms in the afternoon. After a good sleep my cold or whatever is gone with the wind. Hope it stays that way.laugh Take carebouquet
Yep, people have died. wow

It seems to be a bad one - kiddo was sick for over a week with high fever and asked to go to bed early every night. Himself was sick as well and he said it's quite painful - Nurofen helped both of them.

I have no idea why I didn't catch it yet. confused

We both got the flu injection - himself in Ireland and I got it in Germany - would be interesting if these 2 countries used different strains in their vaccine?

Hope you're feeling better soon. wave
Am worrying for my Arty...... blues
Hey, Daniela, keep strong laugh

I haven't had flu since I was 11 and don't have it now but a friend does have it and is completely struck down, weak as a kitten. So I looked it up and found all the above info, golly. Statistically at least some of us on CS will get it.

uh oh
Luke, that's the usual, and luckily you guys are in summer, not in this unusually cold winter, you should duck any issues yay
Mimi, keep him indoors on skype to you and safely out of harm's way ... hug
It seems to be more than just the sniffles, himself was in pain and feeling dreadful and the kiddo simply looked terrible. blues

Tbh, I don't think I'll take 1 or 2 days in bed with a book of this stuff if I can avoid it. help
KN, yes, this one is WAY worse

What I meant was keep a careful eye on symptoms, don't just shrug off the first signs as just another cold!
You're right - normally himself would have gone to bed and rest until it gets better. A GP on the radio gave recommendations what to take and I got it in the pharmacy for himself. It did work for him.

If someone gets really weak or high fever, I would send them to the doctor. conversing
KN, what were the recommendations? Buddy is refusing to go to the doctor.
See also -
Recent report from U.S. Center For Disease Control & Prevention (CDC)...



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Ah ah ah aah Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Choooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! sleep
Donald Trump gets the best flu,
Hi Biff, that flu has hit here too.
But luckily I, nor any of my family, have been struck down by it.
I only got the flu once in my life. It is horrible.You want to die you are so sick.
That is why it annoys me when people who have a cold say they have the flu! There is absolutely no comparison.
Hi Biff
It is the Aliens transport trying to exterminate us. The Anunaki said they were coming back.professor
run for the hills.
hug
Mick, thanks for all the data uh oh

I shoulda done my homework better ... but even those calm and measured reports are saying it is not good news for the populace at large.
And Non I think you'll find he gets the bigliest scold

Baig, I sometimes wonder what it would be like to look like Melania for just a day or two. Anyone, really, who lives in the world of the beautiful. Wouldn't want her life, though, not even for a day or two. uh oh
Cat, they failed in 1918 and they shall fail now. snooty

We shall fight them on the beaches etc etc

Apparently you guys, by contrast, are being whacked with a fairly horrible gastro, or is that confined to Natal? Safest probably to shoot anyone from Natal, if so.
Biff,
A friend and his wife just left here about ten minutes ago. He's in a terrible condition. Working stomach, heavy perspiring, fever etc.I told him to go and see a quack. I did not connect it to the thing in the Republic of Natalia but now I wonder...

I hope it is not contagious.hole
hug
Cat, exceptionally contagious, and keeps returning wow

Good luck, sunshine. Hope your immune system is in tiptop condition comfort
Spanish flue is one of the best examples of exageration, every year is killing more people. There were no stadisticts, and exagerating is becoming also related to other interests. An example: the terrible doom, the bird flu was going to kill all of us, but somehow (like the 2000 computer issue) it did just make a hole in the finances of many health services. In Spain, it also made a terrible damage to those breeding chicken, the complete sector collapsed. When the pork flu came, several year lates, it was called pork flu everywhere, but in Spain, The pork farm sector is closely related with the provinces where an specific party has a majority, and newspapers and tv news were very careful about not relating the flue with pigs, pork, sousages, whatever.
In any case, the problem with flue this year is, that the vaccine made for treating the people with risk factors (pregnant women, elder people, inmunosupressed, etc.) is not effective, so that a bigger rate of deaths is lquite clear. But the flu is not worse for the people out of those sectors. Every year, the WHO decides the strains to be used for the vaccine, and this year they failed, and the strain hitting is one that was not foreseen.
KN, will get more, it's the fever that leaves victims so completely wiped out, thank you!

hug

I tried my first Spanish cough syrup last night, it is pure, solid, sugar. It even tastes grainy. Ew! And that was the pharmacist's recommended one, too.

wow
Most of the adult cough sirups don't taste nice. (I do find Spanish and Italian sweets excessively sugary). Himself got a kiddy cough bottle from the health shop but it must have been a different variety than before - apparently it's yukky and someone doesn't want it. laugh

Last time I had a cold I tried the inhaling thing - salt & rosemary essential oils in hot water, worked pretty well to keep the sinuses from blocking. conversing
Hey Vier, critical is over 65, under 10, or with asthma and complicating conditions, yeah?

The problem is that the opening symptoms are so mild, same as any other cold, and by the time you're on the floor crawling to the doctor has its own challenges ...

We'll all get through this. But statistically some on CS are going to get it, and a couple will get it badly.

uh oh
thumbs up
Non, I had to re-read all the comments to see what you were ahing about

I thought you were sticking out your tongue and saying ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh but you wouldn't have done that until I put on my nurse outfit, right?

So I had to re-read the whole thing laugh Bigly. Got it. Happy to help on the mot juste.
Cheers Biff. wine

Anyone can post up a bottle? conversing

Tried Biltong for the first time last Saturday - it's an hmmmm acquired taste. conversing
KN, hahaa!

Beef? game? ostrich?
dry? semi-dry?

yes it isn't to everyone's taste, it's quite strong and can be salty but beef semi-dry cut into slices so your jaws don't go into meltdown - mmmmmmm - daydream

Don't force yourself, though. Send the rest to me laugh
KN, a taste for biltong is something I don't think I will ever acquire help


Apologies all Saffers
No apologies required, more biltong for us.

My daughter's husband hates it too, which she is very happy about - no sharing - and calls her Biltong Breath when she's been indulging.

They love each other really.

I only got into droe wors when same daughter was teething, these things don't happen overnight.
Hastily googling yet another foreign food typing


Let's be honest here...I don't like sausage, of any kind

Sorry Pat
Dry (and very hard) beef biltong, quite salty. Glad I got the chance to taste it, just too hard for me. conversing

Their kids really liked it and were chewing away.
I find it incredibly confusing to walk past row after row of long skinny dried sausages here - they look a bit like droewors, but they're greasy and highly spiced and a bit ew.

Map has a dealer, he'll fix me up when he remembers.

Ahem. Coff coff.

Map has a dealer, he'll fix me up when he remembers.
KN, kids do take to it. Darling daughter was very fretful when teething, we had a long drive to make and were told to give her iced carrot sticks, and droewors, one in each chubby fist.

She wolfed down the droewors, so I tried a little piece. Ooh. Tried another. Then another. Then husband tried. Ooh. We finished her stock in about 20 minutes, stopped at a butcher's on the road and bought pretty much his entire stock.

Her teeth are lovely laugh
Bliff
This is very true! Even now days, a simple cold still be hanging around a person. It's like, you don't have it today with you. But the next day! It's back hanging out around you. Then the day after that, it feels like it's gone away from you. But the day after that, It'll repeat itself! ( A Simple Cold?).....conversing hmm!
This particular strain of the flu virus is quite deadly...the vaccine covers only approx. 30 % according to stats...but the vaccine may decrease the severity of the symptoms...

Unless you are experiencing pneumonia, it would be wise to treat your illness at home...plenty of fluids and rest...not to mention using medications to help reduce the severity of your symptoms...

Elderly and young children should be immunized...frequent hand washing is also important...and stay away from hospitals and or populated places...

Anti-biotics do not help if your dealing with flu viruses...cannot tell you how many times I had to work in an environment where people visiting spread the flu to staff and patients...just stay at home please...lol...

The norwalk virus is common among cruise ships and care homes...again...if not feeling well...stay home and do not visit...or work...patients and employees do not need to be exposed...

Read the CDC recomondations regarding best practices...


Cheers



wine
The goal is Bri g poured out....wow
Something is going around here too. But I don't get or catch flues. I never got Malaria when all my family got it one time or another in Africa. There must be something wrong with me, I think.

Anyway, I hope your friend rest and recover soon, and you stay immune to take care of him.bouquet
Lou, I would say the biggest problem right here, as severe as this flu is, would be knowing when it had crossed the line into pneumonia?

I did look that up, with the following symptoms offered, would you agree?

Coughing up mucus or even blood
Extreme fatigue
Trouble breathing
Chest pain that gets worse when you breathe deeply or cough
High fever with chills
Headaches
Frequent sweating with clammy skin
No appetite
Acting confused

I mean I have the chest pain even though not otherwise particularly ill, just grumpy and miserable. sigh also no appetite and acting confused, although frankly that last is sometimes my default state.

Waiting to hear from sick buddy today to see whether a rescue / intervention is in order, so I am quite keenly interested in the difference between flu and pneumonia, i.e. doctor or no doctor.
Calliope, long time no see GF! but I don't understand your response laugh the only reference found when I googled BRI G was a beauty salon

Yes I need that laugh
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