Can love exist without respect.

I ask this because New Girl and I were just chatting and she told me she knew people who said that they loved each other but didn't respect each other. She could no more understand how that was possible than I can! What do you think?
I'm just passing by the way because I had to ask this question!
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Hello CestMero,wave I can t see how love can exist without respect, confused Isn t being considate, respectful, thoughtful and caring....... a part of love. I ve always thought love is more than just a physical attraction. I do know having no respect for others can sure chase away more people than it will attract.
Thanks One, I'm on your page with this one.
Back again, wave I know times are changing, and at times I wonder if I m too old fashioned, confused but the thought of having a friendship, a relationship..... without putting forth a honest, respectful attitude is beyond me. If this by chance is a new trend out there, doh bring back the old days.
Yes, I asked; the people New Girl was talking about are forties, fifties. So not new apparently. You're dead right and it defeats me utterly how the one can exist without the other!
Personally, I don't think true love can exist without respect. My daughter has had a relationship with her b/f for 12 years - and he's totally disrespectful to her (and me). He's verbally abusive, controlling and manipulative. I don't call that love, it's power and she's completely subservient to him because she's afraid of the consequences. How can that e love?

Nope, love is caring more about the other person's happiness than your own, and you can't do that without respecting them.
One more thing - when I got married, I totally respected my now-ex and loved him with all my heart. That love and respect died when I realized he lied and manipulated people and wouldn't take responsibility for his own actions. The one behaviour in people that I absolutely detest is manipulation. thumbs down
Hi Cest,

Can love exist without respect?

It can and it does.....though invariably is unhealthy and toxic to all involved.

I hope all is going well with your new lady....wave
Imp, hug thank you for expanding on that. I agree it is sad but like you said, as an outsider one must recognise that it is impossible to interfere. In the mother-in-law's case we actually physically packed her up and kidnapped her. We lived over 200 miles away at the time so distance was a deterrent for him. We gave her a little house he didn't know, and a canine companion. She got herself together, and credit to her, when she was ready went back as she still had the youngest daughter at home. The daughter supported her mother no end and would reprimand her father for being ignorant or controlling. His behavior improved a little and he always knew I was there with the elbow. Once the daughter got married, her mother divorced him.
The whole family rose up against him and told him if he even thought about contesting it we would hit him with the cruelty stuff and take everything he had ever worked for. He behaved. And the Mother-in-law? she lived happily ever after! No not really, but at least is able to do her own thing. I have to say I admire how you have put your life back together knowing how difficult that must be. wine
Love has nothing to do with respect. Respect refer to a value hierarchy from wich respect comes. It is comparison. It is about culture and education. Respect is not admiration.

But love is beyond this. Love starts with admiration. No values and no comparison. Is just being present without any thoughts.

When no love then respect is required.
Swami hi wave Thanks for the input, however the question still remains. Could you live with and love someone you did not respect? I could not and would not be able to be emotionally involved with someone I did not respect. Maybe that's just me. laugh Oh! And New Girl as well and the others who have so far commented here, yourself possibly also. The fact that I can respect someone I do not love, or even like has no bearing on the fact that I could not love someone I did not respect.peace
Berry, very kind of you to drop in, I agree, it cannot make for a good relationship and for me, the two go hand in hand. And thanks for asking about New Girl, yes it's good, I'm a bit scared 'cos it is almost too good. I keep waiting for the sting! We talk a lot and my Spanish has improved, or rather changed because she speaks South American Spanish so I get confused sometimes. She's babysitting granddaughter at the moment so we're on whatsapp messenger at the moment. That's how I have time out to be here today.
Love happens respect is earned ....

so yep, I reckon it can.
Cest,

scold We don't all have a sting in our tail, only for perhaps those who are deserving angel

Agree...respect and love go hand in hand thumbs up

May you your good times continue wine
GG wave Hi girl, thank you for the comment, yes I agree, love grows in the relationship and becomes stronger and respect has to be there also in order for love to grow. And thanks for the Psychiatric point of view, much appreciated.wine
I don't think that I could be in a relationship with any man unless I had/have respect for him.
Berry, yes you're right, I know there isn't always a sting. And now I must ask you all to excuse me New Girl has got granddaughter to sleep so we can talk. Bye for now, I'll look in tomorrow so please all keep commenting.
Nope definitely not.
No it cannot
I don't think I can feel any kind of romantic love for someone I don't respect. Love and respect go hand in hand. I left my husband when it got to the point where I had no respect for hm anymore.
Nothing worse than lowering your standards thinking maybe just maybe that's a huge no no!~
Mercedes, EK, thanks, I appreciate the input. I guess these are things we have to learn as individuals and it frustrates me sometimes how people have to keep re-inventing the wheel when the answers are clearly there before them. It's the hot thing again! A child has no concept of hot until it has touched the pretty glowing red thing. Then it has.
I had not previously thought of respect in terms of my own life but yes, that is when it all fell apart, she lost her self respect, I won't be boring with detail, took to medication and fell into the abyss. I should have recognised what was happening and pulled her back before it was too late but I didn't. My fault entirely.
I never fell as low as you did I think having my son back then was my life line when you have a child you have to think what's best for them not so much for yourself.

I've made three blunders in life..Does that make me less of a woman?..Nope.

Does that make me less of a fabulous mum?..Nope

Does that make me less of a friend?..Nope

We learn as we continue our journey in life it doesn't matter how old we are our journey in life is a continous life lesson I'm still bloody learning.

It's weird because my adult son is yet to miss a beat any decision he makes in regard with any thing in his life he aces it he's bloody fantastic.

My son call's in or call's me from any where in the world thanking me as a mum for educating him with the tools I gave him to deal with in this big bad world yet me myself I've stuffed up a couple of times go figure cause I can't laugh
"respect (verb)

1540s, "to regard," from Middle French respecter "look back; respect; delay," from Latin respectere, frequentative of respicere "look back at, regard, consider," from re- "back" (see re-) + specere "look at" (from PIE root *spek- "to observe").

Meaning "treat with deferential regard or esteem" is from 1550s. Sense of "refrain from injuring" is from 1620s. Meaning "have reference to" is from 1560s. Related: Respected; respecting. To respect the person was "show undue bias toward (or against) based on regard for the outward circumstances of a person;" hence respecter of persons, usually with negative, from Acts x:34, in the 1611 translation.""

"Google defines respect as "a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements." This definition seems correct but, if that's all we have to go one, we're limited in our capacity to truly appreciate the great power of this virtue in our relationships. Do we genuinely respect everyone we meet? Certainly not at first!

How many people do we simply write off when our first impressions don't evoke feelings of admiration? How many people have we known for some time but still don't respect? The etymology of the word brings light and healing to this broken truth about our relationships. From the Latin, spectare means "to look," and re means "again." Respect means "to look again." When we find nothing to admire at first glance (or second, or third...) we must look again, and again, and again, until we find it. That's what it means to respect someone.

It's such a sad state of mind to claim we don't like people. To not like a person is a travesty. Isn't it actually certain things about people we don't like, often trivial things at that? Sometimes it's more serious or even dangerous defects of character (Jesus calls us to see his face even in brokenness). Sometimes there's real personality conflict, or even malice. Humility bridges this gap, and allows us to look again. Everyone has something unrepeatable and beautifully unique to offer, and we'll find it if we maintain respect. Keep looking.

How often does this failure to get to know people warp and diminish our experience of Church? We make rash judgments that we simply can't have relationships of friendship with certain people, and we fail to look again. Catholicism calls us beyond this superficial level of looking at our brothers and sisters. Christ is in our midst, but we must grow in the virtues necessary if we want to see him. Respect is one such virtue.
But I Have Called You Friends
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I've been reading this book by Mother Mary Francis, and it inspired me to write this post. Every page is another gem on the art of Christian friendship. How beautiful the Body of Christ is! May we all have the humility to forgive, and the respect to look again. This notion of friendship is the seedbed of deeper personal conversion, the remedy to our broken relationships, and the foundation for what JPII called "the civilization of love."

Believe me when I say I'm preaching to myself! As Church, it's our duty to challenge one another in areas such as these. It matters. So often grace turns all of our presuppositions and expectations on their head, and this is a perfect example. Rather than sitting around the metaphorical water cooler pointing out flaws and disappointments in people (which only blinds us), let's try and find something to admire instead."
Swami, thank you for the in-depth input. Your last paragraph makes a very important statement, even if slightly off topic, and I agree with that sentiment. Thanks again.thumbs up
Still offtopic. comfort At first I said "bite your tongue", I wonder, if I should have.



I wasn't alive during WW2, is this what most people did back then? I admire peace. peace wine
Was I off topic?

I have a bad habit of doing that but not on purpose
But it is true, pointing out flaws and disappointments definitely blinds people. sigh
Is it possible that she was hinting that you have this lovely new relationship but are still hanging round the singles website?

I haven't read the other comments, apologies if this has already been covered in detail.
I don't understand why people don't ask the person who has them confused rather than ask strangers on the net.
Mercedes. laugh You definitely have your work cut out for you with all these questions Cest. rolling on the floor laughing
Look he just vanished into cyberspace. wave
Have been posting for about 12 years I stuff up so many times blushing giggle
I just checked I was off topic for the subject line but was on topic with Cest's reply I think giggle
Not every relationship is based on love, quite some are based on practicality, economic or other selfish reasons. I think these relationships neither need love or respect.

My myself, I know that I can't love someone I don't respect (or the love went when I lost respect) and I wouldn't want to be with someone that doesn't respect me - I think if someone claims that there is love in that scenario, it's more about possession than caring.
Sorry team, I was invited to dinner with friends. Forty minute drive each way. I took New Girl on the phone. That was interesting. Friends don't speak Spanish, she doesn't speak French, but somehow it worked and with much hilarity.
Er ...... Keepers yes I bit mine as well. I thought I best.
Mercedes, I loved you comments about your son and your three blunders, I also think you are stupendous.hug
Have to walk the dogs now, back in a while.
Thanks Cest..Enjoy your walk hug
Have we got you again for the day? applause
Biff, wave thanks for dropping by, you would probably be right if she knew I was even on here, but she doesn't and as she doesn't speak English is unlikely to find herself up here. And this is why I haven't been here for a week, because I felt I should be faithful to what may develop. I only came to ask this question, because it interested me, but then I got caught up in other blogs which I find so compelling and of course had to come back this morning to answer responses on this blog. But I'm being good, honest, no ogling or looking at potential candidates, truly.
Mercedes, I think it is important that things do wander off topic because then so many other interesting things are encompassed. What seems like a thousand years ago, when I was billeted for training, I shared a room with a guy from Liverpool and one night we talked for hours about one thing and another and finally found ourselves wondering how we wound up at the point we had reached. So we traced it back and it was so interesting how one topic had led to another and to see what the links were.head banger
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