Burning Down the White House

As a trade war heats up, Canada is making our own stance in regards to the illegal tariffs that are being slapped on the free trade goods. Even the US NAFTA negotiator said that Canada's move was brilliant, targeting those areas and states that would affect trump supporters.

The current trade war isn't because of Canadian steel and aluminum, but is actually due to the fact that we don't accept US dairy products into Canada. As the US injects their cows with rBGH, a synthetic growth hormone (supplied by Monsanto), Canadian scientists tested it years ago, and could not confirm Monsanto's claims, and thus banned the substance and US dairy. At that time, the scientists were fired by the conservative government, but not before they released their findings, thus ensuring that Canadian health was protected.

Current testing is inconclusive, however rBGH has been known to increase certain cells that cause breast, ovary and prostate cancer. With the number of cancers in western civilization, we don't need to exacerbate that in any way shape or form. Nor do I think we need to put Canadian health at risk, or to decimate our own dairy industry.

I wrote a few weeks ago how I'd run into a dairy farmer and how he'd asked me not to post photos of his farm and house on the local Facebook page. I hadn't, but he wanted to ensure that I didn't, either. No problem. He told me at that time he's a key figure in the Dairy Farmer's of Canada organization.

As this dairy issue is coming to a head, I contacted him today via a fb message asking him why negotiations to take illegal US milk were even a consideration and what about protecting our own dairy industry? He responded that he would get back to me as he was in a meeting and thanked me for my concern on this issue.

These current tariffs are punishment for not accepting the dairy into Canada, and as far as I'm concerned, an illegal substance is an illegal substance and there's no room at all for any negotiation on it.

Canadians are generally sick and tired of the US' bullying in regards to our resources and trade, and we haven't forgotten the $5 billion that California still owes us for power they were sold when they didn't have enough and the $5 billion that the courts ruled the US owed us on softwood lumber that was also never paid (and some idiot minister forgave). Despite the courts ruling that the US owes the $5 billion for the power, we have yet to see a penny of it. It'd be great to see another power shortage in Ca and for Canada to tell them so sorry. No can do, you don't pay your bills. If Ca has one of the highest economies in the world, then why can't they pay their bills? Maybe it's why they have one of the highest economies, they screw over their suppliers.

Regardless of that issue, there's simply no reason for Canada to have to bend over to take the excess milk and dairy that the US can't dump anywhere else. The EU won't take it, and up until now, neither has Canada, nor should they. They need to find other markets for their dairy, and if Canada and the EU won't take it because of the hormones injected into the cows, then perhaps they need to rethink their methods.

As far as I'm concerned, the trade war can go on indefinitely, Canada can start restricting her sale of resources to the US and adding tariff upon tariff in retaliation and an effort to protect OUR country and citizens. There are many other trade partners in the world, and it's more than time Canada sought other partners.

The US should be careful about insulting us, considering we supply them with much needed power. And it's always a Republican president who starts this divisive bs, pissing off their allies. As much as I love my US friends, this trade war is not doing either country any good, and I hope our PM has enough balls to tell trump to shove his dairy where the sun doesn't shine.

Looks like it may be time for Canadians to burn down the White House again, metaphorically speaking.

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As the US injects their cows with rBGH, a synthetic growth hormone (supplied by Monsanto),

Pure greed. barf
Cow on steroids

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Imp ~ Ireland is doing the same thing, known for so many years for it's grass fed beef and clean meat.... but the injecting of Cattle with steroids is going to have a very sick nation.
I do watch the American News and I am aware you don't acept Dairy products from US. it is just horrific.
The bigger picture, is frightening for humanity.
Karl - thanks - those are great memes! thumbs up
Lukeon - yep, it absolutely is. very mad
Track16 - yep, pretty gross! wow
GG - correct - we haven't for the past 19 years as rBGH was banned in Canada. And to this day, Monsanto still can't provide our scientists with any further verification or data of their claims. thumbs down

Canadians made it very clear to the government and the dairy producers - we do not want hormonal milk. Period.
We need a new party in there so are tax money is used right.
we don't need a carbon tax. useless.
Why should we pay for green when china you cant even see the sky, look on utube videos and notice they have to wear face masks.
So again this tax is useless. Guess who brought it in.
another waste of money.
Your fellow Canadians don't see it as you di.
Thank you for the truth.

Yes it's very true, we spend so much money on military so protection is all up to us. wave
Good for you. Neither will I buy anything from your inferior products.

By the way did you realize how militarily I'll equipped you are? Who's your ally again?

Ehmmm, I thought so.
Then what is Canada's excuse for charging 290 % on NZ dairy products . I am just dying to know .
E my goodness, now let us hear it from these hypocrites then?
@ LJ bgh is nothing more than a non tariff trade barrier , a red herring for any debate if you can call it debate . I am no fan of the US dairy industry either with the high subsidies paid to producers . US preaches free market then practices any thing but . NZ used to pay producers subsidies as well , beef , wool , milk , lamb and mutton . Lost all that in the eighties , we struggled for years as the industry's re-adjusted , now we make good money on most apart from wool . Both the US and Canadian industrys will need to change , not only do they need to stop getting government support but need to pay their share of tax , a quantum leap from where both are now . NZ stopped paying subsidies because it broke the economy , US borrowing trillions per year can't last ,same issue . I checked what Canadian's in Ottawa are paying for milk , about twice what we pay .
Thanks for the explanation E. I believe the reason for the subsidies was to make the industry survive bad economy. When there was no oranges produced because of bad weather, all the farmers would have been bankrupted. It is a bit tricky here in the US but I understand.

Now I don't drink milk other than a goat milk which I am so accustomed to. My dad was a farmer and we had our own organic fed animals, from chicken to cows to horses and goats. I don't even eat any meat except once in a while, New York steak. So all these chemically induced meat products are not my concern. I do feel bad for the people who are fed non organic products.
I don't know what the results of all of this is going to be but I know one thing, its going to be in future history books (if Trump and Putin don't kill us all).
@ LJ , there is nothing wrong with supporting producers when there is a weather event , drought ,floods , storms you name it , they all come along from time to time . US milk subsidies are not about that and have US producers over producing , 2-3 years ago milk was being dumped into pits with no hope of sale , this is what Canadian farmers are protecting themselves against , but while they have been doing that they have become inefficient in the extreme , 80 cows average compared to ours 400 . Last time we had herd average of 200 was 1996 . As for 80 average , not in my working lifetime .
Very few could ever hope to have a 400 cow milk herd in Canada. The average 70 cow dairy farmer has a net worth of 3.7 million dollars. To buy a quota for one cow is about $37,000. The cost to start up a 70 cow dairy farm would be at nearly 3 million dollars, not counting land and equipment. Canada went from nearly 140,000 dairy farms in the 60's to less than 12,000 today. The average dairy farm owner makes about 60% more than the average Canadian. Trudeau is buying votes from Quebec and Ontario where most of the farms are located. The quota system makes it nearly impossible for new people to get into dairy farming unless they inherit it.
Imp have a beautiful weekend.
I am sure things will get sorted.
There is an amazing amount of issues on the plate.In comparison, they have
separate agendas to benefit
the Americas I believe.
The crux may be the unprotected borders.I would not be surprised
if trade reflects where he acquires the most support from.( Mexico/Canada).
If should be even more heated once Soccer is hosted here next year.

Is the dairy issue more pressing than aluminum and steel then?
* it
laugh sorry re-read the second paragraph of your blog topic intro.
I was looking for what the title actually references.Found that interesting also.
When you have an opportune moment please tell you friend we met a month ago hello,best regards.hug
Ash - thank you and you have a wonderful weekend, too! hug

I'm a bit confused re: the friend you met a month ago? confused
The dark haired lady.I guess you were new arrivals,but not acquaintances.
Anyways...don't mind the politics category fussing,neighbor. hug
Ash - do you mean Unfayzed?? She is a friend and a wonderful, wonderful woman. She's left this site, but she is an absolute doll.

And no, I won't worry about the politics. It's something I try to avoid and focus on more positive and happier things. hug
'Then what is Canada's excuse for charging 290 % on NZ dairy products . I am just dying to know "

Lady, since you expressed so much disappointment if not outright contempt on the tariff imposed on you on your products. I am still waiting for your response on this post of Epirb from New Zealand?

Isn't hypocritical of you to be disgusted on the accusation you took so proud about and you don't justify this act?
Exactly E, Imagine, look at it from his objective of making America First. The past administrations has lost a staggering amount of 817 billion dollars on these unfair trade practices. Now we have do what we have to do in order to protect our interest. Other countries don't like it? Too bad. Imagine, untaxed goods sold to our country and we pay exorbitant amount to export our goods>

They must have been so clever to have this arrangement at our own expense.

I am still waiting for Lady's answer.
Yes,yes oh my gosh I went backwards through pages of blogs till April and thought I must have imagined you knew each other.blushing
Sorry she gave us her real first name too.
@LJ there is no good answer , while this fight lasts I just hope it is remembered our US -NZ trade is in balance , about 4 billion both ways , moves from time to time with a 10 % margin both ways . It would be good to increase trade so we could afford to replace our Herk's , was nice to be give them originally to transport troops in and out of VNam . It makes no sense to me for US farmers to use growth regulators to produce more milk that cannot be sold and give Canada an excuse to shut out US dairy products from their market , it would anyway but even so .
I don't understand that part either E. Why there is a need to produce more milk and get forced on to a country that considers our goods to be of less quality or inferior?

I would rather that create balance in a quota based production factored in local consumption.
I meant to say, control the quota that is just enough for our local consumption.
I already responded lindsy - right above my response to Ash. I haven't been here for a couple of days, so my response is late. I don't call you names, and I'd appreciate it if you would keep your remarks on point and without personal attacks.
LadyImp, so are you saying NZ agreed to the 290% dunno

I had to look up NAFTA, didn't see anything about NZ in it, seems to me as an outsider looking in that it's a case of the pot calling the kettle black dunno I stand to be corrected if I'm missing something here professor
LJ uh oh wow war doh this is a row about some milk , bit soon to start talking war laugh I can well see why Canada wouldn't want your milk, the USA uses (from memory) around 980 substances banned in the EU, so we wouldn't want it either laugh

I personally feel a lot of people are not in tune with the way Trump does things, he's the sort of Al Capone of politics laugh much as his detractors would love to be here saying all there pre election forecasts have come true, the dollar is used as fire lighters, the stock market has plummeted making the Wall St crash look like a walk in the park etc etc, but of course none of this happened so they now look like idiots, same thing is happening in the UK with Brexit, so what are they left with dunno character assassination dunno

I do tend agree that all this has a lot to do with defense, for years many countries have not been pulling there weight in defense spending, leaving the USA to pick up the bill, and Trump is now, in his own unique way, redressing the balance laugh It's a bit like watching a high speed car chase, at some point you it crash & burn but it's fun while it lasts rolling on the floor laughing
Thanks for understanding my position Z. Yes I believe, for us to be able to carry the weight of military spending, we have to create balance. NAFTA was never good for the US as far as I am concerned. I didn't approve at all when it was first conceived by the Bush administration, carried on by all the previous administration. According to his speech prior to meeting with Un, there is about 817 billion dollars we lost just by this unfair trade practice.

When it comes to the quality of the milk product, like I said, I don't drink them. I know they should do something about those substances and I feel sorry for the consumers. We might need to voice this concern for our health sake.

Now going back to the countries, even the G7, there is not a single country that spends money on military among them other than the US. Think about it Canada.
On your comment about his pundits looking like an idiot Z, yes they should feel that way, but no they are still so arrogant brandishing their hatred and very Un American attitude. They are the true enemy of my country.
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