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Feb 28, 2009 7:02 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
southernangel
southernangelsouthernangelcovington, Georgia USA3 Threads 37 Posts
I have 2 kids a boy 12 and a girl 8. Their dad has terminal brain cancer and I know that death is coming. But today we buried his dad, my kids grandfather. My son cried a little but for the most part stayed tough, which is bothering me, I told him it was okay to cry. My daughter on the other hand cried so much that she hyperventilated. How do I get them over this. Is this a sample of what is to come, should I force my son to talk. The peditrician says that he needs to be in counseling, and they both are for the cancer that their dad has but, do I need to do more......What are some thoughts because I don't know what I am supposed to do
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Feb 28, 2009 7:07 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
kissmedeeply
kissmedeeplykissmedeeplyPetitcodiac, New Brunswick Canada70 Threads 15,139 Posts
southernangel: I have 2 kids a boy 12 and a girl 8. Their dad has terminal brain cancer and I know that death is coming. But today we buried his dad, my kids grandfather. My son cried a little but for the most part stayed tough, which is bothering me, I told him it was okay to cry. My daughter on the other hand cried so much that she hyperventilated. How do I get them over this. Is this a sample of what is to come, should I force my son to talk. The peditrician says that he needs to be in counseling, and they both are for the cancer that their dad has but, do I need to do more......What are some thoughts because I don't know what I am supposed to do


No that would be a big Mistake..

Let him deal with it in his own way...

I think in time he will probably ask you if his
grandfather is happy up in heaven..

He may later ask many questions..but dont be botherd
to try and get him to talk..he will..

Just be there for them...talk..hug...or just sit try
and to the daily things you always do..but i am sure
in time he will open up and tell you how he feels..

but for now as i say pls dont force him at all..it
may be the worse thing you can do...

All the best to you and ur children..teddybear
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Feb 28, 2009 7:09 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
southernangel: I have 2 kids a boy 12 and a girl 8. Their dad has terminal brain cancer and I know that death is coming. But today we buried his dad, my kids grandfather. My son cried a little but for the most part stayed tough, which is bothering me, I told him it was okay to cry. My daughter on the other hand cried so much that she hyperventilated. How do I get them over this. Is this a sample of what is to come, should I force my son to talk. The peditrician says that he needs to be in counseling, and they both are for the cancer that their dad has but, do I need to do more......What are some thoughts because I don't know what I am supposed to do
I lost my parents at a young age dad when I was 12 mom went into a nursing home when I was 14 and pasted when I was 16 ,let them greif as they need,no one can say how one should grief ,just be there and make sure depression does not take over , kids are better at this than most think they are. talk to them and it will work itself out.hug
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Feb 28, 2009 7:13 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
southernangel
southernangelsouthernangelcovington, Georgia USA3 Threads 37 Posts
That was what I was thinking, me and my kids have an awesome relationship. But the peditirician tells me that she sees the signs and that she is worried that he has an anger issue. i don't see it I see him wanting to be by himself, not really wanting to talk. But I don't want to lose my little man either. I dont' want to force him, he talks when he is ready but then Im just a mom, not a doctor. Im just scared I will mess up.
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Feb 28, 2009 7:14 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
Jackson
JacksonJacksonPowell, Tennessee USA31 Threads 680 Posts
southernangel: I have 2 kids a boy 12 and a girl 8. Their dad has terminal brain cancer and I know that death is coming. But today we buried his dad, my kids grandfather. My son cried a little but for the most part stayed tough, which is bothering me, I told him it was okay to cry. My daughter on the other hand cried so much that she hyperventilated. How do I get them over this. Is this a sample of what is to come, should I force my son to talk. The peditrician says that he needs to be in counseling, and they both are for the cancer that their dad has but, do I need to do more......What are some thoughts because I don't know what I am supposed to do

I lost my Mother when I was 19 y/o. Without a doubt, the most difficult thing I've ever experienced! Yes, death is INDEED their father is gone, but YOU are here for them, and one parent is W-A-A-Y more better than none!

If I can help, girl, please let me know!! Please know that you need to PRAY for guidance in this situation!

God bless you & yours!!

Jackie
teddybear
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Feb 28, 2009 7:15 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
ive been thru this

there are a couple great books for that age group

better source than well meaning and lovely folks at CS


no offense intended to anyone





sorry for these changes...it will get different

hug
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Feb 28, 2009 7:16 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Jackson: I lost my Mother when I was 19 y/o. Without a doubt, the most difficult thing I've ever experienced! Yes, death is INDEED their father is gone, but YOU are here for them, and one parent is W-A-A-Y more better than none!

If I can help, girl, please let me know!! Please know that you need to PRAY for guidance in this situation!

God bless you & yours!!

Jackie


yes let's pray.

best thing we can do


bestconversing hug comfort
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Feb 28, 2009 7:18 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
southernangel
southernangelsouthernangelcovington, Georgia USA3 Threads 37 Posts
mindfful: ive been thru this

there are a couple great books for that age group

better source than well meaning and lovely folks at CSno offense intended to anyonesorry for these changes...it will get different


where do I start looking because I am driving myself nuts.
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Feb 28, 2009 7:19 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
southernangel: That was what I was thinking, me and my kids have an awesome relationship. But the peditirician tells me that she sees the signs and that she is worried that he has an anger issue. i don't see it I see him wanting to be by himself, not really wanting to talk. But I don't want to lose my little man either. I dont' want to force him, he talks when he is ready but then Im just a mom, not a doctor. Im just scared I will mess up.
When Dad pasted i was very angry for some time he has to deal with it in his own way, jmo, of course you know him better than anyone sad flower
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Feb 28, 2009 7:23 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
southernangel: where do I start looking because I am driving myself nuts.


ill mailthumbs up
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Feb 28, 2009 7:24 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
sassygirl08
sassygirl08sassygirl08spring hill, Florida USA1 Threads 7 Posts
First let me say I am so sorry, how are you coping? Has their father sat and talked to them, or just your son, man to man? I think your son feels he has to stay strong for you but we know that really doesnt work. You dont get them over a death, everybody copes in different ways but it cant hurt to get them outside help, how about their dad goes with them to family counseling? Dont forget to take care of yourself and deal with your own feelings so you can be there for your kids, wishing you the best of luck
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Feb 28, 2009 11:13 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
ireland1916
ireland1916ireland1916dublin, Dublin Ireland2 Posts
very sorry 2 hear ur loss u need 2 sit down wit ur kids and have a propper chat wit dem about the situation and tell dem everytin is ok and explain 2 dem dat granda loved dem so much and he will all ways be with dem no matter wat and as 4 der da makr sure ser der wit him 2 da end everey second countc in life
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Feb 28, 2009 11:21 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
ireland1916
ireland1916ireland1916dublin, Dublin Ireland2 Posts
listen im a father u will no wat 2 say wen da time c*m kids heal quick u will no wat 2 say dont worry it will be ok just be der 4 ur kids and sit down and listen 2 dem ur kids will gt u threw dis dont worry
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Mar 1, 2009 12:05 AM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
something
somethingsomethingDublin, Ireland10 Threads 5 Polls 238 Posts
I think the best way to go in this situation, Is to go with your motherly instincts. you know your children best,thy may look at you and follow your example. Take care of yourself.
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Mar 1, 2009 10:35 AM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
southernangel
southernangelsouthernangelcovington, Georgia USA3 Threads 37 Posts
Thank you guys, Ive been up all night worring about my kids, my son still hasnt even reacted and my little girl, she will be fine one moment and then upset the next. They say that death hits in threes and grandpaw was the first, and the closet, if my kids are reacting like this how in the world are we going to get through losing their dad. Tomorrow is Monday, school/work, do we just go on with our lives, or do I see how they are doing and make that call in the morning. God this is so hard, I have no family to turn to with this and what if Im screwing up something, What if Im supposed to say something or do something that I haven't......crying
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Mar 1, 2009 10:39 AM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
curefan
curefancurefanmount olive, Mississippi USA38 Threads 2 Polls 674 Posts
southernangel: I have 2 kids a boy 12 and a girl 8. Their dad has terminal brain cancer and I know that death is coming. But today we buried his dad, my kids grandfather. My son cried a little but for the most part stayed tough, which is bothering me, I told him it was okay to cry. My daughter on the other hand cried so much that she hyperventilated. How do I get them over this. Is this a sample of what is to come, should I force my son to talk. The peditrician says that he needs to be in counseling, and they both are for the cancer that their dad has but, do I need to do more......What are some thoughts because I don't know what I am supposed to do
so sorryhug
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Mar 1, 2009 2:05 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
nuala
nualanualadublin, Dublin Ireland12 Threads 6,456 Posts
southernangel: Thank you guys, Ive been up all night worring about my kids, my son still hasnt even reacted and my little girl, she will be fine one moment and then upset the next. They say that death hits in threes and grandpaw was the first, and the closet, if my kids are reacting like this how in the world are we going to get through losing their dad. Tomorrow is Monday, school/work, do we just go on with our lives, or do I see how they are doing and make that call in the morning. God this is so hard, I have no family to turn to with this and what if Im screwing up something, What if Im supposed to say something or do something that I haven't......


Hiya first i am so sorry that you are in this situation, as i do know how hard it is for you and the worry is the hardest part of it all. I have 8 children and their dad died (he took his life) when my youngest was 6 and the eldest it was her 18th birthday he was found dead on. So i told my youngest ones who ages were 6, 8 and 10 that their daddy chose to go to heaven and they cried but my youngest hadnt a clue what was really going on, the older ones i told them the truth, naturally enough they were upset but one of my lads cried a bit and then went to bed and slept. It was odd but i let him as i felt it was his way to deal with and watched him as time went on.....We as mothers over protect our kids at such a sad time and dont allow them to breath. But my advice is talk in simple terms to him and ask how he is then accept his answer even if its just ok!! let him feel you are there for him not pushing him to talk. Over time he will talk when he is comfortable to talk to you but until then act like you do when someone close dies, remimise the little things and make that person's life worthwhile after all its your child grandad. Tell him how you were when your grandad died. I wish you well and fully understand what you are going thru. If you need me i am only a mail away. teddybear
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Mar 1, 2009 2:18 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
southernangel: Thank you guys, Ive been up all night worring about my kids, my son still hasnt even reacted and my little girl, she will be fine one moment and then upset the next. They say that death hits in threes and grandpaw was the first, and the closet, if my kids are reacting like this how in the world are we going to get through losing their dad. Tomorrow is Monday, school/work, do we just go on with our lives, or do I see how they are doing and make that call in the morning. God this is so hard, I have no family to turn to with this and what if Im screwing up something, What if Im supposed to say something or do something that I haven't......


Hi southernangel...My children lost their dad about 2 weeks ago...very unexpected and sudden. My kids are 10, 17, and 18 years old..they each have dealt with it differently..not sure any one way is right or wrong.
We have had many sleepless nights and many long conversations..and other times we just cry. Keep your ears open to their pain and thoughts, and your eyes open just so you dont miss something...
It's a very hard situation to be in and I never thought I would have to deal with...at least not at this age.
My heart goes out to you and your children...Im sending my prayers and best thoughts and hopefully soon you can find some comfort and peace.hug
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Mar 1, 2009 3:18 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
I'm not qualified to give a proper response, only an opinion. If I read your initial post right, then both children are already in counceling to learn to deal with their dad's cancer.

Presumably this councelor is a PhD Psychologist or a licensed clinical social worker with childhood experience. So the first thing I would do is talk to that councellor and discuss the grandfather's death. Since he/she already knows the children, he/she can better evaluate how to incorporate grief counceling, if necessary.

Two separate councelors might be overkill and make matters worse (as in confuse him with different therapy approaches).

I was 14 when my grandfather passed on and I didn't cry either and didn't display grief in front of others. Every child is different in how they deal with things. Your son's at an age where he is probably connecting the dots between grandpa's death and the possibility of dad passing soon; the relationship between the two men, he being the next "man in line" so to speak... so, again, talk to your current councelor first. Just m.o.
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Mar 1, 2009 3:24 PM CST need advice on helping kids deal with death
dcj22
dcj22dcj22Somewhere, Tennessee USA102 Threads 3 Polls 11,581 Posts
jessejess47: I lost my parents at a young age dad when I was 12 mom went into a nursing home when I was 14 and pasted when I was 16 ,let them greif as they need,no one can say how one should grief ,just be there and make sure depression does not take over , kids are better at this than most think they are. talk to them and it will work itself out.




Excellent advice, my friend. I'm sorry you had to go through this. Probably the worst ages of a persons life to deal with the tragedies that you had to go through. hug
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