I have been talking with a man for several weeks and even met him, but there is one thing about him that keeps bugging me. We mostly talk about him and what's going on in his life. And I discuss it with him.
When I talk about me, he quietly listens, but rarely has anything to say about it. Is he just listening, or does he have a problem talking about others?
We are still too new to each other to know for sure. I looked up narcissism, and this may be what I will find, I don't know yet.
Any suggestions for questions I might ask, or conversations I might ask to feel this situation out more would be appreciated?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Narcissism is a pattern of selfishness and self-centeredness that, in the extreme, can be a psychological condition called narcissistic personality disorder. People with narcissistic personality disorder lack a healthy emotional core. They are driven by a moment-to-moment monitoring of their worth. Since they find it difficult to provide self-worth, they seek it from external sources. They must be "right" or the center of attention; their relationships, possessions, or careers must be "the best" and "special." As in the Greek myth of Narcissus, who fell in love with his reflection, narcissistic people are in love with their image and consequently see flaws as mortal sins.
While we can have empathy for those suffering this disorder, it can be hard to be around them. Narcissistic people tend to treat others as objects that exist to emotionally feed them. They test others with controlling, ugly behavior. Then, if their partner leaves, they conclude that the partner wasn't good enough, and seek a replacement. If their partner stays, they feel validated in their specialness, concluding: If my partner stays with me despite my hurtful behaviors, I must really be exceptional and desirable.
Some suggestions for dealing with narcissistic people:
Don't expect to change them. Individuals with this disorder rarely think they have a problem until they're on the verge of losing everything. Even then, their primary focus may be to maintain their veneer rather than to get to the root of their problem.
Play your game, not theirs. The minute you start competing, you have lost. When you're around a narcissistic person, focus on being the person you want to be and liking who you are.
Be realistic. While narcissistic people can have moments of generosity and charm, they are unaware of your needs and uninterested in meeting them. If you want support, go elsewhere.
Be honest with yourself. Sometimes we mistake a narcissistic person's certainty for strength. If you struggle with low self-esteem, being around someone who seems so confident may give you a temporary boost. In the long run, you are better off attending to the causes of your low self-image rather than catching "reflected" light - even if it means a period of loneliness.
Your post immediately made me think of Toby Keith's song.. I wanna talk about me! Made me giggle.
Gosh, I have no good advice really.. except that if this is the way it has been for several weeks, then it's likely it's not going to change. Maybe he IS listening.. but damn, I'd be wanting a little feedback.. a question or two to let me know that he's not only listening but gives a crap about what I'm saying. That's just me. I hope if he's otherwise a good guy, that it works out the way you want it to.
NeWildflower: Your post immediately made me think of Toby Keith's song.. I wanna talk about me! Made me giggle.
Gosh, I have no good advice really.. except that if this is the way it has been for several weeks, then it's likely it's not going to change. Maybe he IS listening.. but damn, I'd be wanting a little feedback.. a question or two to let me know that he's not only listening but gives a crap about what I'm saying. That's just me. I hope if he's otherwise a good guy, that it works out the way you want it to.
Yes the feedback would be nice. So far he seems like a good guy, I am just curious cause he is different than the men I have been around. I could be just being paranoid and waiting for the shoe to drop so to speak.
NeWildflower: Your post immediately made me think of Toby Keith's song.. I wanna talk about me! Made me giggle.
Gosh, I have no good advice really.. except that if this is the way it has been for several weeks, then it's likely it's not going to change. Maybe he IS listening.. but damn, I'd be wanting a little feedback.. a question or two to let me know that he's not only listening but gives a crap about what I'm saying. That's just me. I hope if he's otherwise a good guy, that it works out the way you want it to.
I agree with this. Time will tell, Lela...but usually if something is bugging you, it's with good reason. Ask him about it upfront. Maybe he just doesn't realize you want feedback. His reaction to you telling him that this is bothering you will tell you a lot about him.
I met on CS a man from Maine. We did fine in email but he wanted to talk on the phone so one night he called me. He talked about himself for an hour and a half. Never asked me anything about myself. I think a relationship is a two-way deal on everything. People don't change. There was no point in telling him what bothered me about him. The next day I told him in email that it wouldn't work out for us and he agreed.
mylifewithu: I have been talking with a man for several weeks and even met him, but there is one thing about him that keeps bugging me. We mostly talk about him and what's going on in his life. And I discuss it with him.
When I talk about me, he quietly listens, but rarely has anything to say about it. Is he just listening, or does he have a problem talking about others?
We are still too new to each other to know for sure. I looked up narcissism, and this may be what I will find, I don't know yet.
Any suggestions for questions I might ask, or conversations I might ask to feel this situation out more would be appreciated?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Narcissism is a pattern of selfishness and self-centeredness that, in the extreme, can be a psychological condition called narcissistic personality disorder. People with narcissistic personality disorder lack a healthy emotional core. They are driven by a moment-to-moment monitoring of their worth. Since they find it difficult to provide self-worth, they seek it from external sources. They must be "right" or the center of attention; their relationships, possessions, or careers must be "the best" and "special." As in the Greek myth of Narcissus, who fell in love with his reflection, narcissistic people are in love with their image and consequently see flaws as mortal sins.
While we can have empathy for those suffering this disorder, it can be hard to be around them. Narcissistic people tend to treat others as objects that exist to emotionally feed them. They test others with controlling, ugly behavior. Then, if their partner leaves, they conclude that the partner wasn't good enough, and seek a replacement. If their partner stays, they feel validated in their specialness, concluding: If my partner stays with me despite my hurtful behaviors, I must really be exceptional and desirable.
Some suggestions for dealing with narcissistic people:
Don't expect to change them. Individuals with this disorder rarely think they have a problem until they're on the verge of losing everything. Even then, their primary focus may be to maintain their veneer rather than to get to the root of their problem.
Play your game, not theirs. The minute you start competing, you have lost. When you're around a narcissistic person, focus on being the person you want to be and liking who you are.
Be realistic. While narcissistic people can have moments of generosity and charm, they are unaware of your needs and uninterested in meeting them. If you want support, go elsewhere.
Be honest with yourself. Sometimes we mistake a narcissistic person's certainty for strength. If you struggle with low self-esteem, being around someone who seems so confident may give you a temporary boost. In the long run, you are better off attending to the causes of your low self-image rather than catching "reflected" light - even if it means a period of loneliness.
druidess6308: I agree with this. Time will tell, Lela...but usually if something is bugging you, it's with good reason. Ask him about it upfront. Maybe he just doesn't realize you want feedback. His reaction to you telling him that this is bothering you will tell you a lot about him.
Thanks Dru that I do plan to do and see if he is self centered, or scared or what. Maybe he will talk with me and if he won't then my gut might be right here. All I know is after talking with him , I feel alone. Although that could be me cause of keeping my heart out of it till I know him better, don't you think.
snugglysenior: I met on CS a man from Maine. We did fine in email but he wanted to talk on the phone so one night he called me. He talked about himself for an hour and a half. Never asked me anything about myself. I think a relationship is a two-way deal on everything. People don't change. There was no point in telling him what bothered me about him. The next day I told him in email that it wouldn't work out for us and he agreed.
That is the same here, we did pretty well in mail but then on the phone and when he was here all I heard was mostly about him. He never asked any questions of me at all either.
That might be the perfect question for me to ask him, something such as ok do you have any questions about me or want to know more about me. Something like that.
Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada3,320 posts
snugglysenior: I met on CS a man from Maine. We did fine in email but he wanted to talk on the phone so one night he called me. He talked about himself for an hour and a half. Never asked me anything about myself. I think a relationship is a two-way deal on everything. People don't change. There was no point in telling him what bothered me about him. The next day I told him in email that it wouldn't work out for us and he agreed.
OMG, I am wondering if it is the same man I met from maine. Username O.L.M.? by any chance.
Arlene101: OMG, I am wondering if it is the same man I met from maine. Username O.L.M.? by any chance.
I honestly can't remember his name. If I do, I'll send it in private email. I will say that he's a widower and has 95 acres of property. Does that help?
snugglysenior: I honestly can't remember his name. If I do, I'll send it in private email. I will say that he's a widower and has 95 acres of property. Does that help?
But the land may have increased with the next story to the next woman.
Arlene101Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia Canada3,320 posts
snugglysenior: I honestly can't remember his name. If I do, I'll send it in private email. I will say that he's a widower and has 95 acres of property. Does that help?
Well this guy I am referring to told so many lies but he told me he ws divorced and the rest sounds the same.
mylifewithu: I have been talking with a man for several weeks and even met him, but there is one thing about him that keeps bugging me. We mostly talk about him and what's going on in his life. And I discuss it with him.
When I talk about me, he quietly listens, but rarely has anything to say about it. Is he just listening, or does he have a problem talking about others?
We are still too new to each other to know for sure. I looked up narcissism, and this may be what I will find, I don't know yet.
Any suggestions for questions I might ask, or conversations I might ask to feel this situation out more would be appreciated??
Like many others already said, yes, give it a little more time, don't go by just one meeting.
My question to you Lela: while talking with a man for several weeks - was he the same way? just interested in talking about himself only? Because you seemed happy for some period of time. There must be something good was going on before you've met him?
Laura25: Like many others already said, yes, give it a little more time, don't go by just one meeting.
My question to you Lela: while talking with a man for several weeks - was he the same way? just interested in talking about himself only? Because you seemed happy for some period of time. There must be something good was going on before you've met him?
I was happy and still am for now, but I had a nagging feeling at the same time.
I just kept giving the talks one more chance to see if I can get him to have a conversation more than just about his day, his work, his fun going fishing, his complaining about neighbors,etc.
But at least he doesn't go on about his past either though. So in a way that is good. But He doesn't talk about anything really about his past, I did get him to tell me a little about his couple marriages but thats about it. Maybe he is just a very private person. And he will tell me more over time or if I ask the right questions. Like I said he is different than any I have known.
Laura25: Like many others already said, yes, give it a little more time, don't go by just one meeting.
My question to you Lela: while talking with a man for several weeks - was he the same way? just interested in talking about himself only? Because you seemed happy for some period of time. There must be something good was going on before you've met him?
Oh and the main thing I was and still excited about is he is a simple man, loves to do most of the same outdoor stuff that I do. Which is something I really want. But I also want a close relationship and not a shallow one.
What I need most to know I think, is what questions should I ask and how to ask them to see if he will talk on more a personal level about me also, or about us. It may be he is just scared and very private. So I don't know.
mylifewithu: What I need most to know I think, is what questions should I ask and how to ask them to see if he will talk on more a personal level about me also, or about us. It may be he is just scared and very private. So I don't know.
Welllllll...ask him about his growing up...about his parents...more indepth about his marriages and then ask him what he wants to know about you....
Hugz_n_Kissez: Welllllll...ask him about his growing up...about his parents...more indepth about his marriages and then ask him what he wants to know about you....
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We mostly talk about him and what's going on in his life. And I discuss it with him.
When I talk about me, he quietly listens, but rarely has anything to say about it. Is he just listening, or does he have a problem talking about others?
We are still too new to each other to know for sure. I looked up narcissism, and this may be what I will find, I don't know yet.
Any suggestions for questions I might ask, or conversations I might ask to feel this situation out more would be appreciated??
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Narcissism is a pattern of selfishness and self-centeredness that, in the extreme, can be a psychological condition called narcissistic personality disorder. People with narcissistic personality disorder lack a healthy emotional core. They are driven by a moment-to-moment monitoring of their worth. Since they find it difficult to provide self-worth, they seek it from external sources. They must be "right" or the center of attention; their relationships, possessions, or careers must be "the best" and "special." As in the Greek myth of Narcissus, who fell in love with his reflection, narcissistic people are in love with their image and consequently see flaws as mortal sins.
While we can have empathy for those suffering this disorder, it can be hard to be around them. Narcissistic people tend to treat others as objects that exist to emotionally feed them. They test others with controlling, ugly behavior. Then, if their partner leaves, they conclude that the partner wasn't good enough, and seek a replacement. If their partner stays, they feel validated in their specialness, concluding: If my partner stays with me despite my hurtful behaviors, I must really be exceptional and desirable.
Some suggestions for dealing with narcissistic people:
Don't expect to change them. Individuals with this disorder rarely think they have a problem until they're on the verge of losing everything. Even then, their primary focus may be to maintain their veneer rather than to get to the root of their problem.
Play your game, not theirs. The minute you start competing, you have lost. When you're around a narcissistic person, focus on being the person you want to be and liking who you are.
Be realistic. While narcissistic people can have moments of generosity and charm, they are unaware of your needs and uninterested in meeting them. If you want support, go elsewhere.
Be honest with yourself. Sometimes we mistake a narcissistic person's certainty for strength. If you struggle with low self-esteem, being around someone who seems so confident may give you a temporary boost. In the long run, you are better off attending to the causes of your low self-image rather than catching "reflected" light - even if it means a period of loneliness.