From Russia with loss! (44)

Mar 17, 2009 10:38 AM CST From Russia with loss!
Tigerjay
TigerjayTigerjayNorth west, Gwynedd, Wales UK5 Threads 15 Posts
Met a beautiful Russian lady a couple of months ago when she contacted me through my sister. At first I was annoyed that my sister had dished out my Email address but I slowly forgave her when I found the Russian girl to be unlike the others. I've had a few Russian ladys trying it on for money so I was dubious. So we began by sending Emails and I soon found her to be honest, I can tell when they are genuine or not. We mailed eachother quite a bit and around the tenth mail we both began to rely on the mails. Then she sent me her phone number and we chatted, I even chatted to he grandmother, well tried to anyway. I always called from my boss's office phone(he'll kill me when he see's the bill!) Then the calls progressed to hand written letters as our friendship gained ground. Soon enough the letters were not enough for her and she wanted to see me in person. I always said I would never send money over and she was a bit put out with me for mentioning it. She had no intention of taking money as she had a good job(she sent me pictures of her in her workplace) she just wanted to take it further and set about organising her trip which has many loopholes but in the end all was sorted. She was to come to me for two-weeks, I was gonna put her up, seperate beds, I'm a gent like that. She merely wanted to see if "we" could work. She said she was more than fond of me and wanted to see if we could take things further, she was very affectionate. In her last call to me, she was very excited about the trip and I was to call her back that evening for the flight details. She never answered, the line was dead! Her mails have stopped,she doesn't answer mine. My sister thinks she gave her my details through MSN, but i cannot trace her, tried everything.
Maybe she got cold feet but I can't help thinking she may have had an accident or something because she was genuinly optomistic about the future and she assured me she wasn't gonna mess me about. I will never know why, it's been three-weeks now, we spoke or wrote almost everyday and now nothing.
A lesson learned here for me, never take this dating thing for granted and never fall for someone you have never met! Ta for listening, jay.
Mar 17, 2009 10:55 AM CST From Russia with loss!
lint874
lint874lint874Leeds, West Yorkshire, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 414 Posts
Did she talk about getting her visa? How she'd been to the British Embassy and got her visa?

If not, then your correspondence with her was all a joke at best, or a subtle scam at worst.

There's no point in arranging flight details till you've got your visa.

Any Russian seriously planning a trip to the UK would know that you arrange your visa first. That this is the most difficult thing to do and that success is not guaranteed. If you get your visa you then sort out your flights.
Mar 17, 2009 11:04 AM CST From Russia with loss!
Tigerjay
TigerjayTigerjayNorth west, Gwynedd, Wales UK5 Threads 15 Posts
yes she said it was sorted. Not sure what it was actually called, it could have been a "fiance visa" unsure, but she did asure me she had one
Mar 17, 2009 11:08 AM CST From Russia with loss!
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
Tigerjay: Met a beautiful Russian lady a couple of months ago when she contacted me through my sister. At first I was annoyed that my sister had dished out my Email address but I slowly forgave her when I found the Russian girl to be unlike the others. I've had a few Russian ladys trying it on for money so I was dubious. So we began by sending Emails and I soon found her to be honest, I can tell when they are genuine or not. We mailed eachother quite a bit and around the tenth mail we both began to rely on the mails. Then she sent me her phone number and we chatted, I even chatted to he grandmother, well tried to anyway. I always called from my boss's office phone(he'll kill me when he see's the bill!) Then the calls progressed to hand written letters as our friendship gained ground. Soon enough the letters were not enough for her and she wanted to see me in person. I always said I would never send money over and she was a bit put out with me for mentioning it. She had no intention of taking money as she had a good job(she sent me pictures of her in her workplace) she just wanted to take it further and set about organising her trip which has many loopholes but in the end all was sorted. She was to come to me for two-weeks, I was gonna put her up, seperate beds, I'm a gent like that. She merely wanted to see if "we" could work. She said she was more than fond of me and wanted to see if we could take things further, she was very affectionate. In her last call to me, she was very excited about the trip and I was to call her back that evening for the flight details. She never answered, the line was dead! Her mails have stopped,she doesn't answer mine. My sister thinks she gave her my details through MSN, but i cannot trace her, tried everything.
Maybe she got cold feet but I can't help thinking she may have had an accident or something because she was genuinly optomistic about the future and she assured me she wasn't gonna mess me about. I will never know why, it's been three-weeks now, we spoke or wrote almost everyday and now nothing.
A lesson learned here for me, never take this dating thing for granted and never fall for someone you have never met! Ta for listening, jay.
Sounds very dodgy to me, I reckon you're well out of it.

You are right in what you say in your last paragraph though... Never fall for anyone you've not met or take anything for granted, wise words thumbs up
Mar 17, 2009 11:21 AM CST From Russia with loss!
Tigerjay
TigerjayTigerjayNorth west, Gwynedd, Wales UK5 Threads 15 Posts
Yeah, i always had that niggling doubt which helps I suppose, ta zell
Mar 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST From Russia with loss!
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
Tigerjay: yes she said it was sorted. Not sure what it was actually called, it could have been a "fiance visa" unsure, but she did asure me she had one


I know you must feel pretty bad but I was talking to a woman one time from the States, she was having a similar realtionship with somebody from near where I live. It got pretty serious over the months, it was all online and they hadnt met but she took the chance and sold her house and belongings, arrived in England with her son - and got stood up - he just didnt show at all and she never heard from him again - I got talking to her cos she was asking women in this area if we knew him.........

Its a bit of a nerve wracking game this ole internet dating thing isnt it........ uh oh
Mar 17, 2009 12:39 PM CST From Russia with loss!
Angel_Diva
Angel_DivaAngel_Divawales, South Glamorgan, Wales UK62 Threads 2 Polls 901 Posts
stick to welsh girls mate.....


wine
Mar 17, 2009 3:11 PM CST From Russia with loss!
Pinkerbell
PinkerbellPinkerbellShropshire, England UK6 Threads 77 Posts
Tigerjay: Met a beautiful Russian lady a couple of months ago when she contacted me through my sister. At first I was annoyed that my sister had dished out my Email address but I slowly forgave her when I found the Russian girl to be unlike the others. I've had a few Russian ladys trying it on for money so I was dubious. So we began by sending Emails and I soon found her to be honest, I can tell when they are genuine or not. We mailed eachother quite a bit and around the tenth mail we both began to rely on the mails. Then she sent me her phone number and we chatted, I even chatted to he grandmother, well tried to anyway. I always called from my boss's office phone(he'll kill me when he see's the bill!) Then the calls progressed to hand written letters as our friendship gained ground. Soon enough the letters were not enough for her and she wanted to see me in person. I always said I would never send money over and she was a bit put out with me for mentioning it. She had no intention of taking money as she had a good job(she sent me pictures of her in her workplace) she just wanted to take it further and set about organising her trip which has many loopholes but in the end all was sorted. She was to come to me for two-weeks, I was gonna put her up, seperate beds, I'm a gent like that. She merely wanted to see if "we" could work. She said she was more than fond of me and wanted to see if we could take things further, she was very affectionate. In her last call to me, she was very excited about the trip and I was to call her back that evening for the flight details. She never answered, the line was dead! Her mails have stopped,she doesn't answer mine. My sister thinks she gave her my details through MSN, but i cannot trace her, tried everything.
Maybe she got cold feet but I can't help thinking she may have had an accident or something because she was genuinly optomistic about the future and she assured me she wasn't gonna mess me about. I will never know why, it's been three-weeks now, we spoke or wrote almost everyday and now nothing.
A lesson learned here for me, never take this dating thing for granted and never fall for someone you have never met! Ta for listening, jay.


Wow, that's crappy...and it sounds like you've learnt something the hard way. I would say forget and move on. It's always difficult with things like this and you have to trust and believe people, up to a certain point...but you should always try and keep your wits about you.

Me? I reckon I'm far too cynical to fall for anything like that..sigh
Mar 17, 2009 4:24 PM CST From Russia with loss!
Twelfthmonkey
TwelfthmonkeyTwelfthmonkeyHarrogate, North Yorkshire, England UK1 Threads 45 Posts
Pinkerbell: Wow, that's crappy...and it sounds like you've learnt something the hard way. I would say forget and move on. It's always difficult with things like this and you have to trust and believe people, up to a certain point...but you should always try and keep your wits about you.

Me? I reckon I'm far too cynical to fall for anything like that..


I'd be guarded as well, she may well have played you, along with others, and she jumped to the one that got caught on the hook first. I personally believe you've had a very lucky escape my friend.

Gotta do as Pinks says, take it as a learning curve and move on.

Remember that we're all friends on here, if a bit crazy sometimes! Jump in get involved, but never, NOT ever, must you pry the Voddy bottle away from Angel (it's like taking candy from a baby)....rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 17, 2009 4:30 PM CST From Russia with loss!
mutley123
mutley123mutley123oxford, Oxfordshire, England UK10 Threads 1 Polls 58 Posts
stay clear comfort
Mar 17, 2009 4:40 PM CST From Russia with loss!
Tigerjay
TigerjayTigerjayNorth west, Gwynedd, Wales UK5 Threads 15 Posts
Ha ha, pass the voddy Angel
Mar 17, 2009 5:17 PM CST From Russia with loss!
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
trish123: I know you must feel pretty bad but I was talking to a woman one time from the States, she was having a similar realtionship with somebody from near where I live. It got pretty serious over the months, it was all online and they hadnt met but she took the chance and sold her house and belongings, arrived in England with her son - and got stood up - he just didnt show at all and she never heard from him again - I got talking to her cos she was asking women in this area if we knew him....
I've heard of this happening a few times uh oh
Mar 17, 2009 5:18 PM CST From Russia with loss!
Zellarrone1
Zellarrone1Zellarrone1Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England UK33 Threads 4 Polls 7,644 Posts
Zellarrone1: I've heard of this happening a few times
Not a few times to same person, to different people I mean uh oh
Mar 17, 2009 6:09 PM CST From Russia with loss!
lint874
lint874lint874Leeds, West Yorkshire, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 414 Posts
Tigerjay: yes she said it was sorted. Not sure what it was actually called, it could have been a "fiance visa" unsure, but she did asure me she had one


It wouldn't have been a fiance visa. One of them would have required a lot of documents from you.

Did she discuss with you, how and when she was going to get her visa? Or did she just seem to magically get one?

Or did she have one from very early in your correspondance or even before your correspondance started?


The British and American embassies have a fearsome reputation amongst Russian people, due to the number of Russians, especially attractive single women who get visa applications refused.
Mar 17, 2009 7:56 PM CST From Russia with loss!
geminiman61
geminiman61geminiman61nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK3 Threads 759 Posts
I do know what kind of things get said they must play a good game i have chatted to 3 Russians all could be models and all seem so genuine i was at my sisters the other day and mentioned it to her she said mention it to our Lloyd well Lloyd came moments later he has actually been out there a few times and he says they are stunning looking and although some do want money he has met one that seems genuine unless she's in it for the long gamekiss
Time will tell we live in hopeteddybear
Mar 18, 2009 5:32 AM CST From Russia with loss!
gussi
gussigussiVilters-Wangs, St Gallen Switzerland12 Threads 2 Polls 4,032 Posts
I suspect a scam TJ no matter what.

head banger
Mar 18, 2009 5:42 AM CST From Russia with loss!
leisure07
leisure07leisure07birmingham, West Midlands, England UK29 Threads 1 Polls 7,059 Posts
gussi: I suspect a scam TJ no matter what.
and where the hell is latvia anyway i get a lot of mail from there its binned immediatly
Mar 18, 2009 6:07 AM CST From Russia with loss!
Pinkerbell
PinkerbellPinkerbellShropshire, England UK6 Threads 77 Posts
Zellarrone1: I've heard of this happening a few times


Me too. Exactly the same story. Woman meets guy in America, sells up and moves over there and he's a no-show. I mean, really...would anyone in their sane mind do that?!?dunno
Mar 18, 2009 6:37 AM CST From Russia with loss!
geminiman61
geminiman61geminiman61nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England UK3 Threads 759 Posts
Pinkerbell: Me too. Exactly the same story. Woman meets guy in America, sells up and moves over there and he's a no-show. I mean, really...would anyone in their sane mind do that?!?

Sometimes the heart rules the head smitten

When beer goes down the neck sense goes out the window so it's

true when someone offers what we crave for some people are

gullible buy me gain hair loose fat attract women/men the media

plays on your dreams and desiresfrustrated doh confused
Mar 18, 2009 6:40 AM CST From Russia with loss!
Pinkerbell
PinkerbellPinkerbellShropshire, England UK6 Threads 77 Posts
geminiman61: Sometimes the heart rules the head

When beer goes down the neck sense goes out the window so it's

true when someone offers what we crave for some people are

gullible buy me gain hair loose fat attract women/men the media

plays on your dreams and desires



I understand that we all have moments of weakness, but surely at some point...when you five minutes to think about it, there must be a thought in the back of ur mind, that giving ur whole life up for someone u've never met...is just a bit radical!

Or am I really being harsh about it? I'd love to hear a success story...
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