According to Newt Grinrich.....President Obama did not accomplish much.
He points out.....
President Obama sought military forces for Afghanistan from NATO.............and got 5000 trainers for the Afghan police force and two F-16s
President Obama tried to get Russia and China into a supporting greater UN sanctions on Iran. Neither supported the motion in the Security Council.
President Obama gave a speech on nuclear disarmament and the North Korean launched a missile several hour prior. Attempted to enter Russia into nuclear talks, none were arranged.
President Obama sought to gain support from the G-20 regarding the world's economic situation. That his stimulus plan, US budget, and continued support for bailout of companies was the path to take. Yet few seem to join the continued spending spree to the degree that Obama desires.
While I did not vote for him, I will support our Pres....but at least give him some time. Rome wasn't built in a day, or even a month or a year. I wouldn't expect our President to fix everything in such a short time, or even the given four years allotted to him.
ttom500: According to Newt Grinrich.....President Obama did not accomplish much.
He points out.....
President Obama sought military forces for Afghanistan from NATO.............and got 5000 trainers for the Afghan police force and two F-16s
President Obama tried to get Russia and China into a supporting greater UN sanctions on Iran. Neither supported the motion in the Security Council.
President Obama gave a speech on nuclear disarmament and the North Korean launched a missile several hour prior. Attempted to enter Russia into nuclear talks, none were arranged.
President Obama sought to gain support from the G-20 regarding the world's economic situation. That his stimulus plan, US budget, and continued support for bailout of companies was the path to take. Yet few seem to join the continued spending spree to the degree that Obama desires.
Thoughts?
at least he didn't get a shoe thrown at him when he was in Iraq.
He's doing more and fixing than you are willing to believe. I have heard what he has said with my own 2 ears, and have listened to how the republicans turned his words around to suit their needs. Definitely NOT all of them, there ARE some smart ones who are reevaluating their ideals, and starting to understand where their party failed.
I think that all these threads, and all those words are fear. Fear because the Republicans have screwed up our country in such a way over the last 30 years that he will succeed ( which I have no doubt about )
ttom500: According to Newt Grinrich.....President Obama did not accomplish much.
He points out.....
President Obama sought military forces for Afghanistan from NATO.............and got 5000 trainers for the Afghan police force and two F-16s
President Obama tried to get Russia and China into a supporting greater UN sanctions on Iran. Neither supported the motion in the Security Council.
President Obama gave a speech on nuclear disarmament and the North Korean launched a missile several hour prior. Attempted to enter Russia into nuclear talks, none were arranged.
President Obama sought to gain support from the G-20 regarding the world's economic situation. That his stimulus plan, US budget, and continued support for bailout of companies was the path to take. Yet few seem to join the continued spending spree to the degree that Obama desires.
Thoughts?
yes oh boy here we go again........alot of us are sick and tired of the constant badgering by said people like the OP of how bad obama has done so far.........
While I did not vote for him, I will support our Pres....but at least give him some time. Rome wasn't built in a day, or even a month or a year. I wouldn't expect our President to fix everything in such a short time, or even the given four years allotted to him.
obamas trip accomplished alot...he got us back on friendly terms with all our allies something bush destroyed when he was in office...now maybe we may have turkey japan russia and all the other nations fighting with us in afghan...he took the us to a giant step which it desperately needed at this time....
evilcherryqueen: Well since his trip is in the past, it IS history
Only time will tell what he achieved in his trip. I love the way some people are judging him on a daily basis, when in reality, anything takes time. Screwing up the US took time, screwing up foreign relations took time. It will take time to undo the damage done. At least he is taking his job seriously and not sitting at camp david for 3 weeks for a vacation.
I agree and it's only common sense that it will take just as much time to undo the damage as it took to inflict it...and that didn't happen overnight like ya said doll....
I will even say this....that I doubt McCain would have done any more on this first trip.
The cards were stacked against him to accomplish much on a first trip. There were established European leaders with agendas in both NATO and the G-20. So pretty tough for President Obama to achieve much of his desired programs and goals.
Also I don't think that it was President Obama that failed to make the request for additional troops in Afghanistan...he did....it was the European leaders that did not step up to the plate in the matter.
So in being fair here. I am totally willing to say that the trip had to be done. That somethings were accomplished. But that I suspect even he would say it was less than what he had hoped for. If you think that I am off here. US media other than FOXX is saying the same.
ttom500: According to Newt Grinrich.....President Obama did not accomplish much.
He points out.....
President Obama sought military forces for Afghanistan from NATO.............and got 5000 trainers for the Afghan police force and two F-16s
President Obama tried to get Russia and China into a supporting greater UN sanctions on Iran. Neither supported the motion in the Security Council.
President Obama gave a speech on nuclear disarmament and the North Korean launched a missile several hour prior. Attempted to enter Russia into nuclear talks, none were arranged.
President Obama sought to gain support from the G-20 regarding the world's economic situation. That his stimulus plan, US budget, and continued support for bailout of companies was the path to take. Yet few seem to join the continued spending spree to the degree that Obama desires.
Thoughts?
still better than not being popularly elected IN THE FIRST PLACE, lying about WOMD's to get into a war for oil, creating a prison at GITMO that violates human rights, having a law passed stating dissent of government was illegal, ALLOWING no holds-barred-torture at abu ghraib, THEN BLAMING CERTAIN SOLDIERS FOR DOING THIS (whipping boys anyone??).....DO YOU REALLY WANT ME TO KEEP GOING??????
rocketqueen: still better than not being popularly elected IN THE FIRST PLACE, lying about WOMD's to get into a war for oil, creating a prison at GITMO that violates human rights, having a law passed stating dissent of government was illegal, ALLOWING no holds-barred-torture at abu ghraib, THEN BLAMING CERTAIN SOLDIERS FOR DOING THIS (whipping boys anyone??).....DO YOU REALLY WANT ME TO KEEP GOING??????
I do....you can even go into more detail if you'd like
the thing is, they don't see where this is wrong, and that IS the problem. Most will never see it.
It's still good to read though..carry on if you want to.
ttom500: I will even say this....that I doubt McCain would have done any more on this first trip.
The cards were stacked against him to accomplish much on a first trip. There were established European leaders with agendas in both NATO and the G-20. So pretty tough for President Obama to achieve much of his desired programs and goals.
Also I don't think that it was President Obama that failed to make the request for additional troops in Afghanistan...he did....it was the European leaders that did not step up to the plate in the matter.
So in being fair here. I am totally willing to say that the trip had to be done. That somethings were accomplished. But that I suspect even he would say it was less than what he had hoped for. If you think that I am off here. US media other than FOXX is saying the same.
hope its not the same source that stated saddam killed 495,000 people EVERY YEAR saddam was in government
(ie:12 and a half million, half the population in the whole 23 years he was in office)
blueyes34: obamas trip accomplished alot...he got us back on friendly terms with all our allies something bush destroyed when he was in office...now maybe we may have turkey japan russia and all the other nations fighting with us in afghan...he took the us to a giant step which it desperately needed at this time....
I hope you are right. But only when those troops show up in Afghan will we really know. There were no solid promises to send them. So it at best it is a maybe at this time.
rocketqueen: holy crap!! do you know something the rest of the world dont????
if yer talking about afghanistan, not being a war that bush started you are living in a dream, my friend........it was terrorists hiding out in afghanistan, not the taliban, they simply refused to give them up.........
In your GWB post...you said GWB started TWO wars. The Taliban and AlQeada started the Afghan war with 9/11. GWB started the Iraq war. Only one war did GWB start, RocketQueen.
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rocketqueen: australia is in both wars too robbie with combat troops
I know, but what most people won't know is that Canadians train with with the Americans, and have a common agreement, and likewise the Australian's also train in unit's and "exchange" personnel with the SAS.
I can name all manner of nations that do work together, but the point i was trying to convey is that say Russian and American troops will have difficulty working and serving together because of the completely different command and control structure.
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He points out.....
President Obama sought military forces for Afghanistan from
NATO.............and got 5000 trainers for the Afghan police
force and two F-16s
President Obama tried to get Russia and China into a supporting greater UN sanctions on Iran. Neither supported the motion in the
Security Council.
President Obama gave a speech on nuclear disarmament and the North Korean launched a missile several hour prior. Attempted to enter Russia into nuclear talks, none were arranged.
President Obama sought to gain support from the G-20 regarding
the world's economic situation. That his stimulus plan, US budget,
and continued support for bailout of companies was the path to take. Yet few seem to join the continued spending spree to the degree that Obama desires.
Thoughts?