Marry for health?? ( Archived) (26)

Apr 18, 2009 11:51 PM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
Would you..
Use to be for better for worse.

This is nothing new.
I know a woman that has no job.. thus..No health insurance.
She found out that she had cervical cancer and needed a complete hysterectomy.
She pursued a man that she knew had a good job and good insurance.
then she married him just so she could get her needed surgery.

Ended up in a divorce shortly after.
Would you, could you do something like this??

what are other **WRONG** reasons people get married?
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Apr 19, 2009 12:01 AM CST Marry for health??
gentlepaws
gentlepawsgentlepawsAny town, Ontario Canada1,019 Threads 13 Polls 9,583 Posts
There are quite a few American women that live close to the border and date Canadian men in order to use our Universal health care. They just say that they live Common Law.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:07 AM CST Marry for health??
Witchaywoman
WitchaywomanWitchaywomanCarpentersville, Illinois USA97 Threads 13 Polls 4,344 Posts
It would be wrong to marry a crazy stalker to keep him from ruining your life.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:09 AM CST Marry for health??
What_a_man_wants
What_a_man_wantsWhat_a_man_wantsEdmonton, Alberta Canada4 Threads 50 Posts
i don't think i would marry for health...
but your story,was captivating...
i would marry for love...heart beating
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Apr 19, 2009 12:16 AM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
What_a_man_wants: i don't think i would marry for health...
but your story,was captivating...
i would marry for love...


Since it was an extreme situation, I can kind of understand,
get the surgery or die from cancerdunno really a tough call.
But I think she should have explained this to him so he would have known the arrangement.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:19 AM CST Marry for health??
BOBANBOBAN
BOBANBOBANBOBANBOBANPozarevac City, Central Serbia Serbia8 Threads 3,464 Posts
rasgumby: Would you..
Use to be for better for worse.

This is nothing new.
I know a woman that has no job.. thus..No health insurance.
She found out that she had cervical cancer and needed a complete hysterectomy.
She pursued a man that she knew had a good job and good insurance.
then she married him just so she could get her needed surgery.
Ended up in a divorce shortly after.
Would you, could you do something like this??

what are other **WRONG** reasons people get married?



i would do the same

liar liar liar
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Apr 19, 2009 12:21 AM CST Marry for health??
What_a_man_wants
What_a_man_wantsWhat_a_man_wantsEdmonton, Alberta Canada4 Threads 50 Posts
rasgumby: Since it was an extreme situation, I can kind of understand,
get the surgery or die from cancer really a tough call.
But I think she should have explained this to him so he would have known the arrangement.







thats why i said captivating...conversing
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Apr 19, 2009 12:22 AM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
Here is another sad situation, and shows how screwed up our government is.

some friends that I went to high school with were married.
She ended up with cancer spread all over her body.. she had both breast removed. and needed much more care.
soon they got to the point that their insurance was maxed and no longer had coverage. They tried to get Government help but was refused because they said that his income was too highdoh Barely over min wage...

so to get her life sustaining help.. they had to divorce.. then her income (none) was low enough to get Government help.
They still live together.. but divorced

Just seems so wrong of our Government

scold
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Apr 19, 2009 12:23 AM CST Marry for health??
What_a_man_wants
What_a_man_wantsWhat_a_man_wantsEdmonton, Alberta Canada4 Threads 50 Posts
come to think of it they must haved loved eachother...hug
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Apr 19, 2009 12:27 AM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
HealthyLiving: I would like to have a marriage arangement like that!


If our economy gets any worse we will be forced to live like Mexicans....24 people in a 1 bedroom apartment.

Sorry, no offense intended to anyone, that is just how they seem to live around here.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:29 AM CST Marry for health??
Ras Here's a article I just ran across which was written last year but I think hits on what your thread topic pertains to.

By Stephanie C. Blog: Would you Marry for Health Insurance?
Sep 14 08

According to a recent Kaiser poll on economic problems facing Americans, 7% of respondents report that they or someone in their household tied the knot last year so they could get their spouse’s health benefits.* Apparently couples teetering on the edge – are we really ready for marriage? – have one more financial factor nudging them towards the big commitment.

Can’t you imagine the romantic how-I-met-your-mother stories? “She had me at ‘full medical and dental.’” Could a health insurance version of the movie “Green Card” be far behind? Raffish copywriter ( James MacAvoy ) marries responsible advertising exec ( Natalie Portman ) for her benefits – and then they fall in love! But their safe haven of subsidized healthcare is threatened when an HR exec ( Allison Janey ) starts asking too many questions.

All joking aside, I wonder what this means for contemporary marriage. Pooling resources through marriage sounds sensible. We already have to worry about the rising costs of food, fuel, and housing. High medical costs are bankrupting people all over the country. That financial ball-and-chain sounds a lot scarier to many than the emotional ball-and-chain of marriage.

After all, I think we can safely assume that the majority of these couples love each other. But with divorce rates being what they are, is the high cost of healthcare and the dearth of affordable insurance options placing too much pressure on relationships? The same financial pressures bringing these people together are exactly what can tear them apart. We all know what couples argue about most – money! And just because a married couple shares health insurance benefits doesn’t mean they’re completely sheltered from high medical costs – or, for that matter, other high expenses. Then you add kids to the plot – hey, once you’re married you might as well – and the financial pressures continue to mount.

According to an election-related Kaiser poll, independent candidates would prefer the next president to deal with high medical costs before expanding health coverage. It sounds like marrying for health coverage is just a band-aid for a much larger problem, one we all feel increasingly powerless to solve. But marriage? Two people negotiating a relationship and household in this complex world… that’s a challenge the average person can handle. Me, I’m just glad I have my own health coverage.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:34 AM CST Marry for health??
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
rasgumby: Would you..
Use to be for better for worse.

This is nothing new.
I know a woman that has no job.. thus..No health insurance.
She found out that she had cervical cancer and needed a complete hysterectomy.
She pursued a man that she knew had a good job and good insurance.
then she married him just so she could get her needed surgery.

Ended up in a divorce shortly after.
Would you, could you do something like this??

what are other **WRONG** reasons people get married?


No, I wouldn't and couldn't. The Department of Welfare would cover it if I didn't have insurance to do so, and I'd rather get public assistance while going through something like that than marry someone that I didn't love and put them through that scenario.

I have married twice for wrong reasons, but never to use someone...and it's really only been with hindsight that I saw how wrong I was with both of those. Funny, but when you're rebounding, you don't always realize that's what you're doing. And as to the first, well, chalk that one up to being stupid. doh

wave Hi, Ras!
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Apr 19, 2009 12:35 AM CST Marry for health??
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
rasgumby: Here is another sad situation, and shows how screwed up our government is.

some friends that I went to high school with were married.
She ended up with cancer spread all over her body.. she had both breast removed. and needed much more care.
soon they got to the point that their insurance was maxed and no longer had coverage. They tried to get Government help but was refused because they said that his income was too high Barely over min wage...

so to get her life sustaining help.. they had to divorce.. then her income (none) was low enough to get Government help.
They still live together.. but divorced

Just seems so wrong of our Government


I'll agree...but then there are many things wrong with our government, Ras. This is but one of the stupid things that you run into working with a government agency. wine
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Apr 19, 2009 12:39 AM CST Marry for health??
aeroz24
aeroz24aeroz24Seattle, Washington USA1 Threads 21 Posts
somechick: By Stephanie C. Blog: Me, I’m just glad I have my own health coverage.


Uh oh she shouldn't have said that, now she's gonna get tons of proposals ;)
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Apr 19, 2009 12:40 AM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
somechick: Me, I’m just glad I have my own health coverage.


I really hope this is not going to be part of Obamas universal healthcare strategyuh oh

Fathers will no longer give their daughters a blessing to get married.. unless the young man has a major medical planprofessor
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Apr 19, 2009 12:43 AM CST Marry for health??
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Btw, I do want to add that some choose to marry for the health of the other person. My late husband and I had never planned to get legally married, but I had excellent health insurance, and we knew he was seriously ill. We just didn't know with what, though we were beginning to suspect it. I married him to try to save his life, or at least to have a chance at whatever was making him sick getting treated and cured. It didn't work, but I have no regrets over marrying him for that reason. wine

Just giving an example of the flip side of the issue in the OP.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:44 AM CST Marry for health??
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
rasgumby: If our economy gets any worse we will be forced to live like Mexicans....24 people in a 1 bedroom apartment.

Sorry, no offense intended to anyone, that is just how they seem to live around here.



I have a big 4 bedroom house if anyone wants to move in and pay the bills!!!grin

But you MUST have OCD to live here!
Stuff out of order would just drive me NUTS!


wave Hi!
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Apr 19, 2009 12:45 AM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby: I really hope this is not going to be part of Obamas universal healthcare strategy

Fathers will no longer give their daughters a blessing to get married.. unless the young man has a major medical plan



I doubt if our healthcare system is going to change anytime soon.Nor will it matter who our leader is.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:48 AM CST Marry for health??
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
druidess6308: No, I wouldn't and couldn't. The Department of Welfare would cover it if I didn't have insurance to do so, and I'd rather get public assistance while going through something like that than marry someone that I didn't love and put them through that scenario.

I have married twice for wrong reasons, but never to use someone...and it's really only been with hindsight that I saw how wrong I was with both of those. Funny, but when you're rebounding, you don't always realize that's what you're doing. And as to the first, well, chalk that one up to being stupid.

Hi, Ras!


I had just moved here and had quit my job in SD. to do so,
So I had not insurance when I fell off of my roof here..2 surgeries and over $60,000 later... I had a battle, but the hospital finally sent my a notice that they had written the bills off completely. THANK GOD!!

I would have been paying for the rest of my life.

Now I have a great job at the same Hospital and fantastic benefitsbanana cheering applause

Go figuregrin
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Apr 19, 2009 12:49 AM CST Marry for health??
Scubadiva
ScubadivaScubadivaNew Jersey, USA106 Threads 11 Polls 2,689 Posts
rasgumby: Would you..
Use to be for better for worse.

This is nothing new.
I know a woman that has no job.. thus..No health insurance.
She found out that she had cervical cancer and needed a complete hysterectomy.
She pursued a man that she knew had a good job and good insurance.
then she married him just so she could get her needed surgery.

Ended up in a divorce shortly after.
Would you, could you do something like this??

what are other **WRONG** reasons people get married?


It is morally wrong to do this? maybe, maybe not.

If it came down to needing surgery to survive and marriage was the only way to get it, I'd do it. WTF... I'm not going die over morality. People have done far worse for far less.
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