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Apr 19, 2009 6:39 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
catchastar2
catchastar2catchastar2Corning, New York USA4 Threads 182 Posts
I had just heard something, that made me take a second thought.
While the banks are getting the tax payers money in the form of a bailout. People are now getting double feed and double finance charges being placed on the costumer, I assume to pay back the Government.
I don't see where that is right at all. We bail them out with tax payer money, and then they charge the tax payer to pay off there debt. Does anyone else besides my self feel we are getting the shaft?
I posted this in current events, but I would have liked to post it under scam storries
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Apr 19, 2009 7:14 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
catchastar2: I had just heard something, that made me take a second thought.
While the banks are getting the tax payers money in the form of a bailout. People are now getting double feed and double finance charges being placed on the costumer, I assume to pay back the Government.
I don't see where that is right at all. We bail them out with tax payer money, and then they charge the tax payer to pay off there debt. Does anyone else besides my self feel we are getting the shaft?
I posted this in current events, but I would have liked to post it under scam storries



It will all be in the taxpayers face with the new Disney film (and new ride!) this summer entitled "Investment Pirates Of The Caribbean" Then comes just in time to compete with Disney: "700Billion Leagues Beneath The Sea", followed by 'Bailout at 700 Billion': An Out of This World Adventure and the summer Reality-Sci-Fi flick '700 Billion Dollars To Earth'. No word yet who plays the 'good guy' or the 'bad guy'. Rumours have it the same actors are trying to play both...all that is known for certain is that they are all 'bad actors'...laugh
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Apr 19, 2009 7:14 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
catchastar2
catchastar2catchastar2Corning, New York USA4 Threads 182 Posts
I had seen this bit of information on CNN. And while I had mixed feelings on the bailouts. None which had me thinking that we would be giving them money to save there butts. Never would I have ever thought that they would get us to pay the money back to us.
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Apr 19, 2009 7:17 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
catchastar2
catchastar2catchastar2Corning, New York USA4 Threads 182 Posts
They can't be that bad of actors, because there are so many believing in what they say. Hell they even have encores!
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Apr 19, 2009 7:18 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
catchastar2
catchastar2catchastar2Corning, New York USA4 Threads 182 Posts
They can't be that bad of actors, because there are so many believing in what they say. Hell they even have encores!
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Apr 19, 2009 7:49 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
solitare
solitaresolitareBariloche, Rio Negro Argentina40 Threads 4,041 Posts
Of course they have encores; they are the only players/ actors in town and they will try to keep you dazzled and confused just like in any cheap magic show. Hold on to your seat however..."you ain't seen nuthin' yet!"wine
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Apr 19, 2009 7:50 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
sxc666
sxc666sxc666unknown, Queensland Australia51 Threads 16,853 Posts
Where's Indy hole
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Apr 19, 2009 7:51 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
sxc666: Where's Indy


Indeed and Conrad.

Hell, we should ask where Dude is too.
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Apr 19, 2009 8:00 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
Sommerauer71: Indeed and Conrad.

Hell, we should ask where Dude is too.



What do you need all of them for? To inform you of how it goes???dunno



help hole
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Apr 19, 2009 8:06 PM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
HealthyLiving
HealthyLivingHealthyLivingSomewhere In, Tennessee USA527 Threads 2 Polls 4,775 Posts
solitare: Of course they have encores; they are the only players/ actors in town and they will try to keep you dazzled and confused just like in any cheap magic show. Hold on to your seat however..."you ain't seen nuthin' yet!"



Oh, how well we know...
This is the calm before the storm!!!!

This is a double collection!

The banks collect from their customers, the American People.
The IRS collects from the American People.

Win! Win! Win! For the Federal Reserve!!!banana
And for Big Business who will charge YOU more
for EVERYTHING!!elephant

Perhaps you know of a way to post the cartoon I just sent you
in the ecard?dunno hint... hint...
wave Good to see you!wine
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Apr 20, 2009 2:46 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
---inflationary
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Apr 20, 2009 4:47 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
Da10th
Da10thDa10thThree Springs, Pennsylvania USA17 Threads 2,744 Posts
catchastar2: I had just heard something, that made me take a second thought.
While the banks are getting the tax payers money in the form of a bailout. People are now getting double feed and double finance charges being placed on the costumer, I assume to pay back the Government.
I don't see where that is right at all. We bail them out with tax payer money, and then they charge the tax payer to pay off there debt. Does anyone else besides my self feel we are getting the shaft?
I posted this in current events, but I would have liked to post it under scam storries



I wasn't in agreement with the bailout of WallStreet, but I did support he automotive bailouts
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Apr 20, 2009 4:51 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
Nothing should be bailed out ,if they can't make it let them fall to the wayside, thats how it will work ,but the bailouts make it worst , they think hey lets just spend spend spend and if we get into trouble the tax payers will bail us out....just plain dumb I say
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Apr 20, 2009 5:13 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
catchastar2: I had just heard something, that made me take a second thought.
While the banks are getting the tax payers money in the form of a bailout. People are now getting double feed and double finance charges being placed on the costumer, I assume to pay back the Government.
I don't see where that is right at all. We bail them out with tax payer money, and then they charge the tax payer to pay off there debt. Does anyone else besides my self feel we are getting the shaft?
I posted this in current events, but I would have liked to post it under scam storries


And that's not the worst of it. The money doesn't even exist.
It's not like there is all this taxpayer money lying around waiting to be wasted. The banks actually create the money in the form of a loan that has to be paid back by the government with interest. Every dollar of bailout erodes the value of all the other dollars in the world because no new wealth is created. The existing wealth is just spread out over more dollars.

What is really happening is that the wealth of the entire dollar economy is being siphoned off and given to bankers (who caused all the trouble in the first place).

It's not at all a measure to shore up the economy. It's a feeding frenzy to take every last bit of value out of the economy before it collapses.
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Apr 20, 2009 5:18 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
Atlas Shrugging!laugh
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Apr 20, 2009 5:55 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
A brief synopsis of the US situation.

For decades, deficit spending emptied the US treasury and acrued a massive US debt.

As the debt got bigger and bigger, other countries had to support the dollar by buying US treasury bonds because their own reserves were in dollars, and (under US pressure) OPEC countries demanded dollars as payment.

Eventually the inflationary pressure of all that outstanding debt became so great that other countries lost confidence in the US ability to ever pay its debts.

Countries began to diversify their reserve funds, selling dollars and buying Euros, Yen, gold, etc.

In the spring of 2008, Iran opened an oil bourse where OPEC countries could sell oil for Euros instead of dollars. That opened the floodgate. There was no reason for other countries to support the dollar anymore.

Dollar debt was no longer a good investment. Mortgage institutions went broke. The banks (who had wasted enormous profits in the past) were now losing money on their outstanding loans because of inflation. The bailout saved them from going broke immediately, but it only worsens the overall situation, robbing the populace to pay the bankers.

Meanwhile the government is militarizing its domestic police capacity (and building yet more FEMA camps) in preparation for the chaos soon to come.
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Apr 20, 2009 5:57 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
Conrad73: Atlas Shrugging!


Exactly
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Apr 20, 2009 6:00 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
Paradox67
Paradox67Paradox67Collegeville, Pennsylvania USA9 Threads 5 Polls 1,170 Posts
In response to: I had just heard something, that made me take a second thought.
While the banks are getting the tax payers money in the form of a bailout. People are now getting double feed and double finance charges being placed on the costumer, I assume to pay back the Government.
I don't see where that is right at all. We bail them out with tax payer money, and then they charge the tax payer to pay off there debt. Does anyone else besides my self feel we are getting the shaft?
I posted this in current events, but I would have liked to post it under scam storries



AND WE ALWAYS WILL GET THE SHAFT IN THE END.


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Apr 20, 2009 6:07 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
catchastar2: They can't be that bad of actors, because there are so many believing in what they say. Hell they even have encores!


That's just the thing. As situations get worse and worse, instead of waking up to reality, most people actually buy into the delusion even more than before. Because they can't bear to face the reality that they have been taken for everything they have and that they are about to lose it all. It's so much more pleasant to imagine that things will turn around and the economy will recover. It's at that point that entire nations are willing to throw their support behind some slick talking dictator who promises to solve the problem if he can get unlimited control.
And of course the media and all the "experts" will be singing his praises.
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Apr 20, 2009 6:23 AM CST What's your opinion on the bailout?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
solitare: Of course they have encores; they are the only players/ actors in town and they will try to keep you dazzled and confused just like in any cheap magic show. Hold on to your seat however..."you ain't seen nuthin' yet!"


This isn't even the opening act yet, it's just the preview trailer.
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