What is the spiritualism (19)

Apr 22, 2009 8:25 AM CST What is the spiritualism
Roomi
RoomiRoomiParis, Ile-de-France France17 Threads 38 Posts
In these days, one can see there are many people who like to introduce that they are spiritual but not religious. So, in other words, spiritualism is a kind of belief which is replacing the religionism. I happened to meet some people who said that they are spiritual. I asked some questions to know if it is the name of some principles, or if one person who is following the spiritualism, can understand his soul or spirit. But, frankly speaking, I did not have any idea about this spiritual thing!

So, I want all of you to share your knowledge regarding spirituality? I would appreciate if spiritual person move ahead and describe its philosophy, values and rituals!
Apr 22, 2009 9:45 AM CST What is the spiritualism
Phoenix
PhoenixPhoenixparis, Ile-de-France France89 Threads 23 Polls 2,325 Posts
Roomi: In these days, one can see there are many people who like to introduce that they are spiritual but not religious. So, in other words, spiritualism is a kind of belief which is replacing the religionism. I happened to meet some people who said that they are spiritual. I asked some questions to know if it is the name of some principles, or if one person who is following the spiritualism, can understand his soul or spirit. But, frankly speaking, I did not have any idea about this spiritual thing!

So, I want all of you to share your knowledge regarding spirituality? I would appreciate if spiritual person move ahead and describe its philosophy, values and rituals!


At the end of the day it's an 'ism'
Apr 22, 2009 9:49 AM CST What is the spiritualism
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Religion is for people who are scared of going to hell.

Spiritualism is for people who have already been there.




grin
Apr 22, 2009 9:53 AM CST What is the spiritualism
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
I'm just naturalconversing laugh professor peace
Apr 22, 2009 10:41 AM CST What is the spiritualism
Apostophe
ApostopheApostopheBoksburg, Gauteng South Africa64 Threads 1,937 Posts
A complicated subject (for me any way) to explain.

I will tell you though that a dj, a serious Poet and a profound mystical experience (trauma related, helped me to discover that i am not just material, but spirit also.

It is to quote Michael Jackson - knowing that the man in the mirror is you.

I resonate to Buddhist philosophy.


Not much help i know - mysticism is looking into muddy waters...


wave
Apr 22, 2009 11:12 AM CST What is the spiritualism
fatum
fatumfatumWarsaw, Mazovia Poland52 Posts
Spiritual creatures don't need the words to understand the similar
ones...but that's our secret. So look for your spirit inside of you, if you will find it.. spirituality becomes clear to you.
Good luck!
Apr 22, 2009 11:20 AM CST What is the spiritualism
Roomi
RoomiRoomiParis, Ile-de-France France17 Threads 38 Posts
fatum: Spiritual creatures don't need the words to understand the similar
ones...but that's our secret. So look for your spirit inside of you, if you will find it.. spirituality becomes clear to you.
Good luck!


Thanks for the nice advice.

But, I hope there will be a process for this discovery?
Is there any school of thought ?
Any special rituals? etc
Apr 22, 2009 11:25 AM CST What is the spiritualism
fatum
fatumfatumWarsaw, Mazovia Poland52 Posts
Roomi: Thanks for the nice advice.

But, I hope there will be a process for this discovery?
Is there any school of thought ?
Any special rituals? etc


I am sure you don't need the advice, you described yourself to be spiritual, so try and try and you will findcomfort
Apr 22, 2009 11:55 AM CST What is the spiritualism
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
Roomi: Thanks for the nice advice.

But, I hope there will be a process for this discovery?
Is there any school of thought ?
Any special rituals? etc


Hi Roomi - Interesting subject here! I describe myself that way, simply because I believe in a Higher Power, outside of myself, or inside of myself, whatever or wherever ..... but I do not subscribe to any Church Doctrine, am not interested in organised religion.

Some people like to describe it (being spiritual, or this "process" you mention) as an "awakening" to ones own spirituality......

When you begin to question these things, that is the process that leads to this "awakening of your spirituality"..... imo anyway.

"Seek, and you will find"...... Good luck in your travels ....cheers
Apr 22, 2009 12:13 PM CST What is the spiritualism
fatum
fatumfatumWarsaw, Mazovia Poland52 Posts
smoky: Hi Roomi - Interesting subject here! I describe myself that way, simply because I believe in a Higher Power, outside of myself, or inside of myself, whatever or wherever ..... but I do not subscribe to any Church Doctrine, am not interested in organised religion.

Some people like to describe it (being spiritual, or this "process" you mention) as an "awakening" to ones own spirituality......

When you begin to question these things, that is the process that leads to this "awakening of your spirituality"..... imo anyway.

"Seek, and you will find"...... Good luck in your travels ....


Hi Smoky,
I am limited with my basic English...You Did it PERFECTLY bouquet
jmo
Apr 22, 2009 12:40 PM CST What is the spiritualism
smoky
smokysmokyUnterland, Zurich Switzerland266 Threads 6 Polls 9,412 Posts
fatum: Hi Smoky,
I am limited with my basic English...You Did it PERFECTLY
jmo


Hi Fatum, and thank you for saying that. Well, thats just how I am. Went thru the whole "searching" process, and was not impressed, listening to Other Folks interpretations of what they Think is the Truth.

I`ve also found there are some pretty basic instructions contained in the Bible, if you can cut thru the crap, and read it with a searching mind. cheers
Apr 22, 2009 12:43 PM CST What is the spiritualism
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
spirits dwell in the thoughts you phatom...
Apr 22, 2009 1:15 PM CST What is the spiritualism
Roomi
RoomiRoomiParis, Ile-de-France France17 Threads 38 Posts
smoky: Hi Roomi - Interesting subject here! I describe myself that way, simply because I believe in a Higher Power, outside of myself, or inside of myself, whatever or wherever ..... but I do not subscribe to any Church Doctrine, am not interested in organised religion.

Some people like to describe it (being spiritual, or this "process" you mention) as an "awakening" to ones own spirituality......

When you begin to question these things, that is the process that leads to this "awakening of your spirituality"..... imo anyway.

"Seek, and you will find"...... Good luck in your travels ....


Thanks Smoky for your wonderfull and thought provoking reply, like always.

Spiritualism as I think, is based on the existence of spirit or sould and also on the relationship between the soul and the body. Some times I try to evaluate this theory in the frame work of Time and space and I get confused. For example, if our body is mortal our soul is not. Which means that our soul existed, some where, even before the creation of our material body. And, it will also exist when our materialistic body would be burried or burnt into the chambers. If it is true then a spiritual person must have the knowledge about his past, I mean the time before his or her birth.

In addition, he must also be aware of the world where his sould would go after the biological death. In other words, as I understand, for a spiritual person, there is no divison of past present or future. He is able to see where he likes to see. Is there any body who can claim that his awareness is not limited within the boundaries of time ???????
Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM CST What is the spiritualism
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
Smoky puts it well. I came onto this site because it said it was for spiritual people who are not religious. Still I find many people who conform to religions writing me and telling me religion doesn't matter in a relationship. Well, IMO it does matter quite a lot once it becomes a personal undertaking that really pervades your entire existance. Once you've awoken that spark in you, the inner knowing as I would call it (an inner knowing of your true nature) then it's pretty hard to suppress it. It's a connection to your deeper self so to speak that beckons you to grow as a person and not waste your life on trivia. This is very hard for the average person (by this I mean someone who says they belong to whatever church they were born into) to grasp, so I find that explaining it becomes a chore.

When you become interested in the real nature of spirituality and look beyond the dogmas presented by the religioius traditions, you do research and engage more and more in the task of building a belief system that really fits who you are and with which you feel comfortable. There are many things a spiritual person feels intuitively but may not "know" in the sense that you're describing it. I intuit that my soul is an everchanging entity that is detached from my body, so I believe that there is no reason to fear death. The idea of reincarnation was the first thing I took a look at when I started to become aware of these dimensions.

When you are serious about your spiritual growth you start to tolerate mindgames much less and so things such as the dating games here on this site can be harder to deal with. You are more aware and thus more sensitive than the average person.
Apr 22, 2009 2:00 PM CST What is the spiritualism
gongman
gongmangongmanCarcassone, Occitanie France28 Threads 2 Polls 515 Posts
Roomi you seem to be confusing spiritualism with spirituality.If English is not your "langue maternelle" this is understandable.They are two different things.

As for a definition of spirituality I can only quote Ekhart Tolle who gave the best definition I have ever read.

"Spirituality has nothing to do with what you believe and everything to do withhow aware you are about how aware you are.

Read his books,they are easy to find in multiple languages.The Power of Now and A New Earth.

Particularly A New Earth,there you will read about the pain body,what it is and how to get rid of it.

Be careful,there are many false gurus out there,particularly at this time when many people are searching for answers.....

For those who remember me I have been on the outside looking in and am happy in my own skin and being here back in France.Amongst the best of spiritual friends.

wave
Apr 22, 2009 2:04 PM CST What is the spiritualism
symbolistartist
symbolistartistsymbolistartistHanko, Southern Finland Finland10 Threads 761 Posts
Oh and of course, spirituality can cover many unconventional strands of religions but it's mostly a desire for the deeper values in life as described by the more mystical strands of religion. So some people may follow some rituals or dogmas but in general there aren't many and they are always custom made to suit the individual's personal needs. That's spirituality in the age of individualism. Just a step on the evolutionary ladder.
Apr 22, 2009 3:22 PM CST What is the spiritualism
And it is SPIRITUALITY,NOT calling up the Dead!doh doh doh
Apr 22, 2009 3:25 PM CST What is the spiritualism
Roomi: In these days, one can see there are many people who like to introduce that they are spiritual but not religious. So, in other words, spiritualism is a kind of belief which is replacing the religionism. I happened to meet some people who said that they are spiritual. I asked some questions to know if it is the name of some principles, or if one person who is following the spiritualism, can understand his soul or spirit. But, frankly speaking, I did not have any idea about this spiritual thing!

So, I want all of you to share your knowledge regarding spirituality? I would appreciate if spiritual person move ahead and describe its philosophy, values and rituals!
Good to the Earth,to yourself and others.conversing
May 3, 2009 5:01 AM CST What is the spiritualism
Rhiannon3
Rhiannon3Rhiannon3Wien, Vienna Austria2 Threads 66 Posts
I agree with Smoky and Symbolist - spirituality is having a sense of, and belief in, other (higher) powers, without necessarily subscribing to any organised religion or dogma.

I think there are a lot of people who are "religious" without being spiritual - they just follow what they are told to do because they are told it is "right". The might follow all the rules, but don't really think about it in any depth.

I think it's intersting how people see the importance (or not) of religion in a relationship. Personally, I for me it would depend on just how different the beliefs were - but am curious what others' experiences have been on this one!
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