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May 28, 2009 7:53 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
A term that I came across recently.

That is a term hard to translate in German, it does not work terribly well and where I live in Austria, it would never be understood.

What does it mean??

I know it is a term that is used in the North West of England, my father lives there, and it is a term I have not heard in years.

Does it mean, that there are undecent folk around?

In the German language, which underwent a change in recent years, if I translate it 'anstandig Volk'. (the word for decent is an Umlaut second 'a' but I am on a non international keyboard, so my apologies to German speakers for the incorrect use of their lovely language)

Terms such as 'ey up love' and 'ee by gum' are hard to translate so this 'decent folk' term intrigues me.

Anyone help?
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May 28, 2009 7:55 PM CST Decent folk.
jeepers
jeepersjeepersCowpet Bay, Saint Thomas Virgin Islands (USA)57 Threads 10,968 Posts
pointing Decent folk
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May 28, 2009 8:00 PM CST Decent folk.
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
My suggestion would be to simply say "gut Volken"...it is plural, after all. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't spoken German regularly in about 27 years. hug
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May 28, 2009 8:00 PM CST Decent folk.
Dknew
DknewDknewBarrington, New Hampshire USA262 Threads 10 Polls 7,077 Posts
The way I understand it here it can be translated to mean "Honest ppl"
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May 28, 2009 8:01 PM CST Decent folk.
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
druidess6308: My suggestion would be to simply say "gut Volken"...it is plural, after all. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't spoken German regularly in about 27 years.


"guten Volken" perhaps? Argh. doh
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May 28, 2009 8:03 PM CST Decent folk.
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Dknew: The way I understand it here it can be translated to mean "Honest ppl"
Ah, there's the thing, Dan...it can mean many things. Good, honest...hmmm. Yes, tough to translate at times. But then, all idiomatic sayings are hard to translate from their native language to another.

"Mon petit chouchou" doesn't work as an endearment in English, for example.
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May 28, 2009 8:04 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
druidess6308: My suggestion would be to simply say "gut Volken"...it is plural, after all. Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't spoken German regularly in about 27 years.


You know Dru, German is a gutteral language as you know. As a Germanic language it is hard to translate some English terms.

As a person who was educated in a Romance language, it has been quite a shock for me, even though English is a Germanic language.

That translates to 'good folk' Which is great, just that I saw 'decent folk' earlier and I wondered about it, because it is not a term used certainly in my area.

Strange, languages.
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May 28, 2009 8:14 PM CST Decent folk.
woody636
woody636woody636Elgin, Illinois USA3 Threads 1,267 Posts
Hiya Sommer! wave Pretty common expression over here. "Honest people" is just one interpretation. Can also mean lots of other things such as "normal, not weird", fun to be with/around, ect.
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May 28, 2009 8:19 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
woody636: Hiya Sommer! Pretty common expression over here. "Honest people" is just one interpretation. Can also mean lots of other things such as "normal, not weird", fun to be with/around, ect.


Hi Woody.. Goodness, you have been away for some time.

Yes, 'honest folk' seems to be the general standard for the term.

Nice to see you back.
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May 28, 2009 8:20 PM CST Decent folk.
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Sommerauer71: You know Dru, German is a gutteral language as you know. As a Germanic language it is hard to translate some English terms.

As a person who was educated in a Romance language, it has been quite a shock for me, even though English is a Germanic language.

That translates to 'good folk' Which is great, just that I saw 'decent folk' earlier and I wondered about it, because it is not a term used certainly in my area.

Strange, languages.
It's what I thought would be more commonly used there, rather than "decent folk". Most would say "good folk", and it would certainly get the point across.

I knew you'd understand it, Sommer. Easy one, really. I love German...something about its very gutteralness appeals to me, and also the way they have one word that says a phrase when translated to English. Varfegnuegen, for example. wine
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May 28, 2009 8:21 PM CST Decent folk.
woody636
woody636woody636Elgin, Illinois USA3 Threads 1,267 Posts
Sommerauer71: Hi Woody.. Goodness, you have been away for some time.

Yes, 'honest folk' seems to be the general standard for the term.

Nice to see you back.


I've been around quite a bit but lurking/reading instead of posting. Quite a bit of hostility on here for awhile and just decided to stay out of it. Got to get my "forum" fix pretty much daily, tho! grin wine
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May 28, 2009 8:23 PM CST Decent folk.
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
In response to: A term that I came across recently.

That is a term hard to translate in German, it does not work terribly well and where I live in Austria, it would never be understood.

What does it mean??

I know it is a term that is used in the North West of England, my father lives there, and it is a term I have not heard in years.

Does it mean, that there are undecent folk around?

In the German language, which underwent a change in recent years, if I translate it 'anstandig Volk'. (the word for decent is an Umlaut second 'a' but I am on a non international keyboard, so my apologies to German speakers for the incorrect use of their lovely language)

Terms such as 'ey up love' and 'ee by gum' are hard to translate so this 'decent folk' term intrigues me.

Anyone help?


Used In the South alot. People who are decent. (moral)
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May 28, 2009 8:24 PM CST Decent folk.
nurcnurc
nurcnurcnurcnurcLongwood, Florida USA6 Threads 1,192 Posts
Good people or good person. Not indecent just a person who is forthright.
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May 28, 2009 8:31 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
woody636: I've been around quite a bit but lurking/reading instead of posting. Quite a bit of hostility on here for awhile and just decided to stay out of it. Got to get my "forum" fix pretty much daily, tho!


Ah yes, that is very much the case and it is obvious to people who read the forums.

Nice to see you, Woody.
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May 28, 2009 8:34 PM CST Decent folk.
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Sommerauer71: I love the Brits and their terms, my Dad tells me I am a Brit, but I have been away for many years, even though I had a home there.

Many of the terms of the Brits, are nautical terms, which makes sense.

'Three square meals'

'Soap opera' is an American term that is known worldwide, came from Procter and Gamble.

I love learning about languages. Terms and given that my mother tongue is English, the fact that I was educated in another language is fairly obvious.

Even though I teach English as a foreign language, it is a foreign language to me, something I had to learn to speak again as a 22 year old. I sometimes struggle with the terms and of course languages evolve all the time.

Teaching English as a foreign language is very different from a native speaker to natives.
That would be something I would have enjoyed when I was younger and more fluent in my other languages. Sadly, I've lost quite a bit of all of them. I can still read and understand some French and Spanish, and German comes back if I get the chance to speak it. Languages always fascinated me, but I never wanted to become an interpreter (as my mother suggested a lifetime ago) because they would lose their aspect of fun. I'd still love to learn Gaelic, southern Irish dialect (my ancestry), another gutteral language.
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May 28, 2009 8:34 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
nurcnurc: Good people or good person. Not indecent just a person who is forthright.


Hi V!

Now my ears are pricked.

You say forthright?

Does that mean that a person is honest? Can give their views?
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May 28, 2009 8:42 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
druidess6308: That would be something I would have enjoyed when I was younger and more fluent in my other languages. Sadly, I've lost quite a bit of all of them. I can still read and understand some French and Spanish, and German comes back if I get the chance to speak it. Languages always fascinated me, but I never wanted to become an interpreter (as my mother suggested a lifetime ago) because they would lose their aspect of fun. I'd still love to learn Gaelic, southern Irish dialect (my ancestry), another gutteral language.


Dru, I sort of fell into teaching, primarily it was because of my young children, I trained as a chef originally.

And as an international student myself, I had a great headmaster, who without him I would have never have graduated.

It is hard, I have not spoken French for many years, yet when the occasion arises, I can. I speak more German than I give myself credit for.

PPV has a great command of the English language, he and I spend many an hour discussing.

Yes, my mother is too born, into the Gaelic language and my brother can speak that.
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May 28, 2009 9:00 PM CST Decent folk.
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Sommerauer71: Fabulous, I love this.

Superb.

Especially the part about 'empowered Moralists'

It is interesting, you write this. Because I have often stated that people who shout they are good, decent, honest, are in fact the complete opposite.

Honest, good, decent don't state they are, they just are and that will shine through, in my belief.


Do correct me,Sir, if I am wrong.
thumbs up Agreed, Sommer.
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May 28, 2009 9:03 PM CST Decent folk.
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
druidess6308: Agreed, Sommer.


I will be interested in this Gentleman's response, because I believe he has raised a great point, Dru.

In fact many.
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May 28, 2009 9:05 PM CST Decent folk.
In response to: A term that I came across recently.

That is a term hard to translate in German, it does not work terribly well and where I live in Austria, it would never be understood.

What does it mean??

I know it is a term that is used in the North West of England, my father lives there, and it is a term I have not heard in years.

Does it mean, that there are undecent folk around?

In the German language, which underwent a change in recent years, if I translate it 'anstandig Volk'. (the word for decent is an Umlaut second 'a' but I am on a non international keyboard, so my apologies to German speakers for the incorrect use of their lovely language)

Terms such as 'ey up love' and 'ee by gum' are hard to translate so this 'decent folk' term intrigues me.

Anyone help?
nice people non trouble makers ones that you don't mind associating with,
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