Studies have shown that on the average, women do not value physical beauty in the ways that men do.
I need it. I realize this now after my recent experience with my ex.
In a nutshell, I was not really physically attracted to her. She was really cool, nice, understanding, and gave me the freedom and space to be me. What more can I ask for?
Well, apparently I need more physical attraction, particularly somebody who is more fit and a little prettier.
Sound shallow? Why? Is that trend these days to judge somebody's particular interests?
I tried that. I tried to fall in love with somebody who I did not consider beautiful. I really did. It simply did not work.
Here is an interesting thought. Do you really think the world (media and Hollywood) has fairly defined what constitutes physical beauty?
Stop, I know it's ultimately what counts on the inside, but if I don't get excited by what's shining in the moonlight or sunlight on the outside, then what's inside is pretty much useless to me. We can be great friends as far as I am concerned.
So what if there was no media, no tv, no movies, no beauty pageants and so forth to help define what constitutes physical beauty? How would we determine what beauty is? Would we still think the world of beautiful eyes, slim and slender bodies, and other striking physical features? I think it's somehow inherent in some ways. If we were conditioned to appreciate ugliness, would it work? Even ugly plants and animals?
Stop again, I know I will hear beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, now I'm thinking that two strikingly beautiful people are more likely to be attracted to each other, and that two average looking people are more likely to be attracted to each other and you can do the rest of the math here.
I know there are many exceptions to this, but by observing what's going on now and who is together as far as looks go, I really don't see somebody really ugly and out of shape with somebody who is really beautiful and in shape? Is this inherent element governed by our inherent biological drifts (Darwinism)? Or is it that we are living what the world tells us is beautiful?
Answer as you wish and to any of the many thoughts I put up there. I know it may not be sensitively correct, but it's truth in many ways.
First of all wouldnt you rather have someone take care of your heart and not your head? Do nice looking people who have ugly parents love them any less because they are ugly? I have seen many nice looking men and women with the average or ugly person and be perfectly happy. As I always say the outside fades eventually and what you end up with is a perfect mess and your still miserable because now they are no longer attractive. A beautiful woman or a handsome man does not make the person. If I were a size 2 would I still not be the same person. Only less weight. You have to weigh your odds. Do you want someone that looks good now but is a piece of crap inside or do you want someone who is okay looking and will treat you like you were meant to be treated. Yes society has ruled as to what we should look like.
CaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK1,186 posts
I'll get back to you with a longer one, StressF, but for now, love really has very little to do with looks.
You're talking about falling in love, and I can see where you're coming from there, but love, at it's height, is so very far from the falling in love bit.
Falling in love is that little tickle a first spring beam of the sun wakes your skin in the morning with. Love is running through a most yellow beautiful field of rapeseed under a summer sun with your arms stretched up towards the sky and full laughter in your heart. Falling in love is the season of awakening which precedes the full blossom season of love to arrive.
When you love, you really see beyond anything physical, it becomes unimportant, irrelevant in a sense and not even second. If you don't, you really do not love, you “only” crave.
StressFree: Studies have shown that on the average, women do not value physical beauty in the ways that men do.
I need it. I realize this now after my recent experience with my ex.
In a nutshell, I was not really physically attracted to her. She was really cool, nice, understanding, and gave me the freedom and space to be me. What more can I ask for?
Well, apparently I need more physical attraction, particularly somebody who is more fit and a little prettier.
Sound shallow? Why? Is that trend these days to judge somebody's particular interests?
I tried that. I tried to fall in love with somebody who I did not consider beautiful. I really did. It simply did not work.
Here is an interesting thought. Do you really think the world (media and Hollywood) has fairly defined what constitutes physical beauty?
Stop, I know it's ultimately what counts on the inside, but if I don't get excited by what's shining in the moonlight or sunlight on the outside, then what's inside is pretty much useless to me. We can be great friends as far as I am concerned.
So what if there was no media, no tv, no movies, no beauty pageants and so forth to help define what constitutes physical beauty? How would we determine what beauty is? Would we still think the world of beautiful eyes, slim and slender bodies, and other striking physical features? I think it's somehow inherent in some ways. If we were conditioned to appreciate ugliness, would it work? Even ugly plants and animals?
Stop again, I know I will hear beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, now I'm thinking that two strikingly beautiful people are more likely to be attracted to each other, and that two average looking people are more likely to be attracted to each other and you can do the rest of the math here.
I know there are many exceptions to this, but by observing what's going on now and who is together as far as looks go, I really don't see somebody really ugly and out of shape with somebody who is really beautiful and in shape? Is this inherent element governed by our inherent biological drifts (Darwinism)? Or is it that we are living what the world tells us is beautiful?
Answer as you wish and to any of the many thoughts I put up there. I know it may not be sensitively correct, but it's truth in many ways.
Stress, I do think that Hollywood, magazine advertisements, TV commercials dictate what we should look like.
TV commercial: sensuous music playing, a long haired beauty with her hair flying in the wind, long legs up to her ears, tight jeans, skin glowing, and a smile to kill for....and then you find out it's a car commercial.
I agree to a point that we are attracted to beauty but I think it depends on your age. When I was 20 years younger I was looking for a handsome man but as I got older I realized that what I needed, more then what I wanted, was a man that could make me laugh.
And that is still the case. I don't care if he is handsome. I do care if he is tall and makes me laugh. If he has a beer belly, no big deal. If he has a big beer belly I can overlook it as long as he makes me laugh.
romancefairy1963: First of all wouldnt you rather have someone take care of your heart and not your head? Do nice looking people who have ugly parents love them any less because they are ugly? I have seen many nice looking men and women with the average or ugly person and be perfectly happy. As I always say the outside fades eventually and what you end up with is a perfect mess and your still miserable because now they are no longer attractive. A beautiful woman or a handsome man does not make the person. If I were a size 2 would I still not be the same person. Only less weight. You have to weigh your odds. Do you want someone that looks good now but is a piece of crap inside or do you want someone who is okay looking and will treat you like you were meant to be treated. Yes society has ruled as to what we should look like.
Gosh, VERY good reply to the OP, I agree with you 100%
A woman needs to take care of herself, and of course I do need to be attracted to her, but I've grown to have serious doubts about any woman that I lust after and can't keep my hands off of. I personally want the balance, but a woman that puts in the effort to take care of herself is more beautiful to me then one that is a supermodel that is out partying all the time.
And on another note I would be perfectly happy with a not so attractive guy if he treats me good. There are a lot of good looking people out there that are a real piece of crap. Physical attraction does not have to come from looks, it can be a jesture, a smile, a soft touch, some nice words. Yes it is shallow that you wouldnt want someone because they are not a beauty queen.
CaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK1,186 posts
StressFree: I tried that. I tried to fall in love with somebody who I did not consider beautiful. I really did. It simply did not work.
That’s why it’s called Falling in love. It’s not something you try, it’s not something you wish and it becomes, it’s nothing you can control. If it was, it would be called Throwing yourself in love.
But we fall.
When we least expect it.
The fall sometimes leaves a bruise, yes, but regardless it’s always a sensation like freefalling, skydiving through subtly moist clouds, like refreshing your face by lying down cheek towards a grass wet of dew of dawning.
CaptainBeirutIIILondon, Greater London, England UK1,186 posts
StressF, you know, to me you show so many signs of being a true Romantic, I have a little trouble for it adding up.
Yes, I think that she has to look a bit better than Miss Piggy, but I also think that when the right one appears, it will really not be the looks you want to keep her forever for.
StressFree: Studies have shown that on the average, women do not value physical beauty in the ways that men do.
I need it. I realize this now after my recent experience with my ex.
In a nutshell, I was not really physically attracted to her. She was really cool, nice, understanding, and gave me the freedom and space to be me. What more can I ask for?
Well, apparently I need more physical attraction, particularly somebody who is more fit and a little prettier.
Sound shallow? Why? Is that trend these days to judge somebody's particular interests?
I tried that. I tried to fall in love with somebody who I did not consider beautiful. I really did. It simply did not work.
Here is an interesting thought. Do you really think the world (media and Hollywood) has fairly defined what constitutes physical beauty?
Stop, I know it's ultimately what counts on the inside, but if I don't get excited by what's shining in the moonlight or sunlight on the outside, then what's inside is pretty much useless to me. We can be great friends as far as I am concerned.
So what if there was no media, no tv, no movies, no beauty pageants and so forth to help define what constitutes physical beauty? How would we determine what beauty is? Would we still think the world of beautiful eyes, slim and slender bodies, and other striking physical features? I think it's somehow inherent in some ways. If we were conditioned to appreciate ugliness, would it work? Even ugly plants and animals?
Stop again, I know I will hear beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, now I'm thinking that two strikingly beautiful people are more likely to be attracted to each other, and that two average looking people are more likely to be attracted to each other and you can do the rest of the math here.
I know there are many exceptions to this, but by observing what's going on now and who is together as far as looks go, I really don't see somebody really ugly and out of shape with somebody who is really beautiful and in shape? Is this inherent element governed by our inherent biological drifts (Darwinism)? Or is it that we are living what the world tells us is beautiful?
Answer as you wish and to any of the many thoughts I put up there. I know it may not be sensitively correct, but it's truth in many ways.
Oh!I can't wait to find your inner beauty, after seeing what shines in the moonlight and sparks in the sunlight!
Yeah! I am THAT shallow, dear!
You should come over and see how women rate men's beauty, in the hunk-a-ton thread...
CaptainBeirutIII: StressF, you know, to me you show so many signs of being a true Romantic, I have a little trouble for it adding up.
Yes, I think that she has to look a bit better than Miss Piggy, but I also think that when the right one appears, it will really not be the looks you want to keep her forever for.
reb56: like,a trophy wife,or the girl next door,or the movie star?
I know what's like to be the trophy wife, always put up front to make an impression, not judged for myself only for How many beauty contests I won or did print ad modeling. Many moons ago and a part of my life I don't like to think about.
I was an artist at that time. My apprection of the human form, the symetry I could deal with and not see a client as a future love interest. Don't look at the outside soooo much . Beauty fades and you have to deal with the person inside.
The woman you fall in love with might feel as you described.... about you one day. No matter how good or how much love you have for them you'll be castaway because of her superficial atitude. Be careful what you wish for
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I need it. I realize this now after my recent experience with my ex.
In a nutshell, I was not really physically attracted to her. She was really cool, nice, understanding, and gave me the freedom and space to be me. What more can I ask for?
Well, apparently I need more physical attraction, particularly somebody who is more fit and a little prettier.
Sound shallow? Why? Is that trend these days to judge somebody's particular interests?
I tried that. I tried to fall in love with somebody who I did not consider beautiful. I really did. It simply did not work.
Here is an interesting thought. Do you really think the world (media and Hollywood) has fairly defined what constitutes physical beauty?
Stop, I know it's ultimately what counts on the inside, but if I don't get excited by what's shining in the moonlight or sunlight on the outside, then what's inside is pretty much useless to me. We can be great friends as far as I am concerned.
So what if there was no media, no tv, no movies, no beauty pageants and so forth to help define what constitutes physical beauty? How would we determine what beauty is? Would we still think the world of beautiful eyes, slim and slender bodies, and other striking physical features? I think it's somehow inherent in some ways. If we were conditioned to appreciate ugliness, would it work? Even ugly plants and animals?
Stop again, I know I will hear beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, now I'm thinking that two strikingly beautiful people are more likely to be attracted to each other, and that two average looking people are more likely to be attracted to each other and you can do the rest of the math here.
I know there are many exceptions to this, but by observing what's going on now and who is together as far as looks go, I really don't see somebody really ugly and out of shape with somebody who is really beautiful and in shape? Is this inherent element governed by our inherent biological drifts (Darwinism)? Or is it that we are living what the world tells us is beautiful?
Answer as you wish and to any of the many thoughts I put up there. I know it may not be sensitively correct, but it's truth in many ways.