I am inferring from your posts that you are a person that doesnt really use the forums for communication, rather for issues to do with himself. If that is not the case and i was too swift to judge, i would expect you to do your homework on the quantum issue i raised for your previous thread, which you didnt. All this does not compell me to engage in a serious conversation on whether christians are proved to exist. This was the last time i will answer in a civilized manner on similar posts of yours. bye.
ps. if you feel dissatisfied by this, please report this post as a threat to the moderators, then they might be able to judge me and my discomfort with your stance.
you have ruined my day and taken away my inspiration for a smarter world in the future, and the sad thing is i know you are one of many.
The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Christian as "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or lives the lifestyle based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus."
A wide range of beliefs and practices is found across the world among those who call themselves Christian. Some of the most generally accepted beliefs among Christians include:
* that Jesus Christ is the Son of God * that Jesus was the Messiah promised in the Old Testament * that God sent his Son to earth to save humanity from the consequences of its sins * that Jesus gave his life on the Cross (the Crucifixion) and raised from the dead after the third day (the Resurrection).
A 2007 survey in the United States identified the following five typical American categories:
* Active Christians: Committed to attending church, Bible reading, and sharing their faith that salvation comes through Jesus Christ. They also accept leadership positions in their church. * Professing Christians: Are also committed to "accepting Christ as Savior and Lord" as the key to being a Christian, but focus on personal relationships with God and Jesus more than on church, Bible reading or sharing faith. * Liturgical Christians: High level of spiritual activity, mainly expressed by attending and recognizing the authority of the church, and by serving in it or in the community. * Private Christians: Believe in God and in doing good things, but not within a church context. In the American survey, this was the largest and youngest segment. * Cultural Christians: Do not view Jesus as essential to salvation. They are the least likely to align their beliefs or practices with biblical teachings or to attend church. They favor a universality theology that sees many ways to God.
Other countries may not show the same variety, especially where there is active persecution of Christians.
People who have a distinct heritage and come to believe in Jesus may also identify themselves differently. Messianic Jews believe that they are a sect of Judaism and that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and the Divine Savior. They seek to live in obedience to the remaining aspects of the Mosaic Law found in the Torah.
The term rice Christians refers to people who profess Christianity for material benefits.
liakos: I am inferring from your posts that you are a person that doesnt really use the forums for communication, rather for issues to do with himself. If that is not the case and i was too swift to judge, i would expect you to do your homework on the quantum issue i raised for your previous thread, which you didnt. All this does not compell me to engage in a serious conversation on whether christians are proved to exist. This was the last time i will answer in a civilized manner on similar posts of yours. bye.
ps. if you feel dissatisfied by this, please report this post as a threat to the moderators, then they might be able to judge me and my discomfort with your stance.
you have ruined my day and taken away my inspiration for a smarter world in the future, and the sad thing is i know you are one of many.
my prob i suppose.
Actually, you're partly right.
I do use the forums to work out thoughts in my mind. I like to find where I'm wrong, if I am. I don't feel satisfied thinking things through, without subjecting my ideas to outside criticisim. Buy doing this I am learning communication skills, and patience. I am learning to subject myself to ridicule, while staying polite.
I think the best thing for me personally is, when I first started posting in a forum, I called names, and engaged in personal attacks as bad as some people here. In a week or two, I felt really juvenile, and I started be more patient, and avoid name calling.
I find some people who I learn from in the forums.
I also use them for communication with friends, and to meet people who are like minded.
I am glad when I find someone who tries to communincate diverse ideas, instead of mocking, and posting emoticons. I'm sorry I didn't see that you posted again, that thread got spammed by some guy, who thought I should be by the computer hanging on his every word, I'll look for what you wrote.
In my other thread, people kept trying to get me to prove Christians exist. I got tired of attempts to change the topic, and sterotype me, so I started this thread.
And actually I hope this thread is an exhortation for Christians.
It is my hope that all of us will consider who we are, and what we're doing to love our neighbor as ourselves, no matter what we believe.
In case nobody noticed, I did not say, I don't believe in Christians.
I asked for proof they exist.
For anybody who is a Christian, what makes you a Christian?
I do use the forums to work out thoughts in my mind. I like to find where I'm wrong, if I am. I don't feel satisfied thinking things through, without subjecting my ideas to outside criticisim. Buy doing this I am learning communication skills, and patience. I am learning to subject myself to ridicule, while staying polite.
I think the best thing for me personally is, when I first started posting in a forum, I called names, and engaged in personal attacks as bad as some people here. In a week or two, I felt really juvenile, and I started be more patient, and avoid name calling.
I find some people who I learn from in the forums.
I also use them for communication with friends, and to meet people who are like minded.
I am glad when I find someone who tries to communincate diverse ideas, instead of mocking, and posting emoticons. I'm sorry I didn't see that you posted again, that thread got spammed by some guy, who thought I should be by the computer hanging on his every word, I'll look for what you wrote.In my other thread, people kept trying to get me to prove Christians exist. I got tired of attempts to change the topic, and sterotype me, so I started this thread.
And actually I hope this thread is an exhortation for Christians.
It is my hope that all of us will consider who we are, and what we're doing to love our neighbor as ourselves, no matter what we believe. In case nobody noticed, I did not say, I don't believe in Christians.
I asked for proof they exist.For anybody who is a Christian, what makes you a Christian?
Do you have verses to show you are one?
I am Christian, and In my case, I dont have to prove you anything....
mexikanska: The American Heritage Dictionary defines a Christian as "one who professes belief in Jesus as Christ or lives the lifestyle based on the life and teachings of Jesus; one who lives according to the teachings of Jesus."
A wide range of beliefs and practices is found across the world among those who call themselves Christian. Some of the most generally accepted beliefs among Christians include:
* that Jesus Christ is the Son of God * that Jesus was the Messiah promised in the Old Testament * that God sent his Son to earth to save humanity from the consequences of its sins * that Jesus gave his life on the Cross (the Crucifixion) and raised from the dead after the third day (the Resurrection).
A 2007 survey in the United States identified the following five typical American categories:
* Active Christians: Committed to attending church, Bible reading, and sharing their faith that salvation comes through Jesus Christ. They also accept leadership positions in their church. * Professing Christians: Are also committed to "accepting Christ as Savior and Lord" as the key to being a Christian, but focus on personal relationships with God and Jesus more than on church, Bible reading or sharing faith. * Liturgical Christians: High level of spiritual activity, mainly expressed by attending and recognizing the authority of the church, and by serving in it or in the community. * Private Christians: Believe in God and in doing good things, but not within a church context. In the American survey, this was the largest and youngest segment. * Cultural Christians: Do not view Jesus as essential to salvation. They are the least likely to align their beliefs or practices with biblical teachings or to attend church. They favor a universality theology that sees many ways to God.
Other countries may not show the same variety, especially where there is active persecution of Christians.
People who have a distinct heritage and come to believe in Jesus may also identify themselves differently. Messianic Jews believe that they are a sect of Judaism and that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah and the Divine Savior. They seek to live in obedience to the remaining aspects of the Mosaic Law found in the Torah.
The term rice Christians refers to people who profess Christianity for material benefits.
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So here is another question to consider...
Can anybody prove Christians exist?