Holland = Social Isolation (106)

Jul 11, 2009 1:57 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
interpol425
interpol425interpol425Royal Oak, Michigan USA1 Threads 4 Posts
One month in, and I have yet to meet any new people other than colleagues.

Strangely, I have never met such distant, disinterested, hard to talk to people in my entire life. The Dutch make people from London and New York seem warm and fuzzy.

If i sound a bit bitter, that's because i am. haha!

But it sure would be nice to at least be able to get to know someone who is native to this country. :(
Jul 11, 2009 2:28 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
heidi2765
heidi2765heidi2765GLASGOW, Central, Scotland UK5 Threads 737 Posts
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW....my best friend is Dutch, so there is hope!conversing teddybear bouquet
Jul 11, 2009 2:39 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
interpol425
interpol425interpol425Royal Oak, Michigan USA1 Threads 4 Posts
Well I know that to say all Dutch people are a certain way is painting with a broad brush and is a gross generalization. So i need to apologize. However, I am a pretty social and friendly person, and i can honestly say that I have not had even remotely close to what could be considered a meaningful conversation with anyone Dutch (let alone a Dutch girl). Hahaha!

Its the strangest phenomenon: Dutch people are ridiculously friendly with simple trivial interaction, but then it stops there.
Jul 11, 2009 2:46 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Meet me in Amsterdam tonight or tomorrow so I can explain you some trickslaugh wave
Jul 11, 2009 2:54 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
interpol425
interpol425interpol425Royal Oak, Michigan USA1 Threads 4 Posts
Thanks! I def need tricks. laugh
Jul 11, 2009 2:54 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Normally, they don't want to babysit anybody.
I read books, sort of guides for foreigners in NL, as to understand how to deal with the Dutch, body language and all that stuff. For example, what concerns American extremely selfconfidence aka boasting...it's not appreciated here.
You need to have strong self emotional administration. If it's your first time emigrating for real, you'd have the same issues in any country, no matter if it was in Spain (where they say people are nice...which I do not agree).
The Dutch people go along with your futilities very well. If you want to get into their shoes...you gotta be deep and independent. They don't like having 24/7 silly chit chat at home.

The Portuguese, give you nothing emotional. I heard it's a latine problem. Oh yes, they kiss you and hug you...but if you are too deep, you get nothing from the Portuguese, etc. I'm always concerned, thus, I LOVE THE DUTCH!
Jul 11, 2009 2:55 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
interpol425: Thanks! I def need tricks.


Are you really coming to Amasterdam? Be serious, I don't want scammers in my liferedclown
Jul 11, 2009 3:01 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
interpol425
interpol425interpol425Royal Oak, Michigan USA1 Threads 4 Posts
Mmmmmm no. I'm not that desperate come on. roll eyes
Jul 11, 2009 3:08 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
Weimarlady
WeimarladyWeimarladySouth, Xlokk Malta29 Threads 5 Polls 1,305 Posts
Oh, I love Holland and love the people. Some of the warmest, most friendly people I've ever met. (Maybe because they were dog people? LOL) smitten
Jul 11, 2009 3:09 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
heidi2765
heidi2765heidi2765GLASGOW, Central, Scotland UK5 Threads 737 Posts
The Portuguese, give you nothing emotional. I heard it's a latine problem. Oh yes, they kiss you and hug you...but if you are too deep, you get nothing from the Portuguese, etc.


Got to agree with that one, Christina. Feel for me, I will be going to a family celebration tonight 70 Portuguese and me!wow


I will survive.dancing applause cheering
Jul 11, 2009 3:09 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
Firstly, welcome to CS. Secondlt Chris has written it all well about moving to any country. And although you are painting with a wde brush, it is easy to culturise, as I did when I moved to Austria, the Austrians are very stoic and show very little emotion, sense of humour is what gets under their skin and they like humour. I learned this quicly when I went to find my car one morning and my landlady's father had hidden my car.

Find your surrounding people's vulnerable spot, we all have one, pick at it like a scab, and you'll crack it.

From my experience of the Dutch and I have worked with some, they are beilliant at languages, why many global's like the Dutch to work for them and they too enjoy humour.

We'll get Rodders onto you, he is Dutch and is a hoot, he'll help you out...

In the meantime, have some fun here, we are REALLY friendly.
Jul 11, 2009 3:09 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
AudrysSis: Oh, I love Holland and love the people. Some of the warmest, most friendly people I've ever met. (Maybe because they were dog people? LOL)


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Jul 11, 2009 3:15 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
Sommerauer71: Firstly, welcome to CS. Secondlt Chris has written it all well about moving to any country. And although you are painting with a wde brush, it is easy to culturise, as I did when I moved to Austria, the Austrians are very stoic and show very little emotion, sense of humour is what gets under their skin and they like humour. I learned this quicly when I went to find my car one morning and my landlady's father had hidden my car.

Find your surrounding people's vulnerable spot, we all have one, pick at it like a scab, and you'll crack it.

From my experience of the Dutch and I have worked with some, they are beilliant at languages, why many global's like the Dutch to work for them and they too enjoy humour.

We'll get Rodders onto you, he is Dutch and is a hoot, he'll help you out...

In the meantime, have some fun here, we are REALLY friendly.


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They have no problems in findind excuses to talk to you. I swear I do wear my hat on my eyes so I don't have to say "hi" at a smile.
It's about finding interests in common. If you want to talk, you gotta make it more tangible.

gift
Jul 11, 2009 3:16 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
heidi2765: The Portuguese, give you nothing emotional. I heard it's a latine problem. Oh yes, they kiss you and hug you...but if you are too deep, you get nothing from the Portuguese, etc. Got to agree with that one, Christina. Feel for me, I will be going to a family celebration tonight 70 Portuguese and me! I will survive.


You'll be fine.

Eat bacalhau com natas for me please!smitten

I thought you were Portuguese!
Jul 11, 2009 3:17 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
CuspofMagic: Hey Cristina --- you could come to Oz instead


Hahaha Giovanni, Giovannikiss
Jul 11, 2009 3:22 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
cristina: Hahaha Giovanni, Giovanni


darn you only said it twice! --- gotta work on another one now --- now lets see " down feather of Bird of Paradise and ..... laugh hug
Jul 11, 2009 3:24 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
cristina
cristinacristinaLisbon, North Holland Netherlands286 Threads 10 Polls 17,243 Posts
CuspofMagic: darn you only said it twice! --- gotta work on another one now --- now lets see " down feather of Bird of Paradise and .....


Hahaha

laugh

teddybear
Jul 11, 2009 3:58 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
cristina: They have no problems in findind excuses to talk to you. I swear I do wear my hat on my eyes so I don't have to say "hi" at a smile.
It's about finding interests in common. If you want to talk, you gotta make it more tangible.
Absolutely, and take that damn hat off, I cannot see your eyes.

bouquet
Jul 11, 2009 4:31 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Sommerauer71: The stiff upper lip thingy is a myth.
ur differentlaugh
I wanna say something naughty now...
Jul 11, 2009 4:41 AM CST Holland = Social Isolation
Sommerauer71
Sommerauer71Sommerauer71Salzburg, Austria133 Threads 4 Polls 12,414 Posts
rodolpho: ur different
I wanna say something naughty now...
Because I have been exposed to the continent more than I have the UK. Not to mention the MID East and the States.
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